“Villanova Dogs and a Domesticated WildKAT... Make It Make Sense..." Official 2024 NY Knicks off-season Thread

[SAJ!!]

I feel sad about the trade, but at the same time, I see why that deal needed to be made.

Now, let's see what Rose has up his sleeve next.

 

[Typical Knicks Fan]

Now the question is, do we pivot for Murray or Donovan Mitchell

Easily Mitchell.

 

[SAJ!!]

Easily Mitchell.

If it's Mitchell, I will be surprised.

 

[g-ice]

If it's Mitchell, I will be surprised.

Yeah, I’ll be shocked if the Cavs trade him to us.

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

Well the Knicks need another ball handler immediately.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

This trade has the feel of a roster makeover and overhaul. An overpay for OG, but if it’s one domino in the fall, then ok.

Something needs to be done, because this is a 4-5 seed squad forever. But OG can’t be the prize like he prime ‘Bron

 

[ISO]

No one thinks hes a star but he fits a need. We've been lookin for a solid 3 for da better part of 5 years now lol.

We needed size, length, defense, and shooting at that position and he covers all of that. RJ was playing out of position, he is a 2.

He has a 5 month trial run, if it dont work out we can trade him or clear his money off the books.We are also clearing fournier's contract off da books so we have much more flexbility.


Paying IQ 100 plus mill to come off da bench wasnt logical. Starting him beside Brunson wasnt logical either. I got mad love for IQ But that wasnt gonna work long term.

It is what it is, i woulda paid IQ and not brought over Donte, but Donte isnt making a lot and has proven over da years on title contending teams

It turned out to be a 2nd rounder and not the haul of picks initially requested so I’m not as mad at it anymore.

RJ isn’t a 2 he’s been bulked past that position that’s just an excuse his stans make no matter where he goes he’ll be a swingman playing a good dose of both positions depending on line-up.

 

[mvp_status]

Losing Quick sucks. Though now maybe Grimes will stop playing like a p*ssy since he doesn't have to look over his shoulder as much

 

[Stop_It_5]

IQ could very likely be the best player in this deal once the dust settles (he might be already), but there was never a longterm spot for him on this team once Brunson signed and established himself as top dog.

Someone was gonna offer him a sheet north of $100m for a starter role and minutes, never made sense to match that. A trade was inevitable, using that reality to get off the RJ contract and acquire a piece who fits Thibs like a glove is good business once you get past the emotional attachment of homegrown talent.

 

[seemorecizzy]

Losing Quick sucks. Though now maybe Grimes will stop playing like a p*ssy since he doesn't have to look over his shoulder as much

i would give grimes another shot at starting. Him and OG would really b helpful on to Brunson on the defensive end.

But ya that requires grimes to stop playing scared all da time

 

[Serious]

Guys…it happened!

I legit came into this thread to get a full write up from you on what just happened

 

[Serious]

It will forever piss me off if they trade IQ without ever even TRYING him out next to Brunson. I get that it might have size issues, but they should at least make sure because the analytics are CRAZY positive.

That said, it makes sense why he'd be traded. He's the best player-asset; his next contract likely pushes NY over the second luxury tax (and Hartenstein's also due a raise); and the Knicks are overloaded with 6'5 and under wings. Combine him with Fournier and RJ (or Grimes, but preferably RJ) for a big wing that upgrades the starting line-up; and the minutes problems work themselves out. This is all kinda perfect to aggressively pursue OG, except that we're actively suing the Raptors

Actively suing the raptors

Is there a write up on this.

 

[Serious]

This is what I would do

Knicks Trade: IQ, Hart, Grimes, draft compensation

Knicks Get: Dejuante Murray, Deandre Hunter

The trade Makes the Knicks dark horse contenders in 2024 if everyone is healthy and on the low puts pressure on Thibs to coach better because you have no excuses if everyone is healthy. IQ is disgruntled, Fournier is expiring, and Josh Hart is a equally bad contract to Hunter except Hart is healthy.

Starters
Brunson
Murray
Hunter
Randle
Mitch

Bench
DDV
Grimes
RJ
Taj (maybe)
IHart

Everyone wants to talk about RJ but Josh Hart will make 18 Mil next year and he is putting up like 8 pts a game.

Josh hart may put up 8 points but he plays basketball. He’s playmaker that gives 100% effort to win. Just like I’m sure he’s had shooting nights where he was like 2/11 but I’m sure he had like 10 rebounds and 7 assist.

 

[Serious]

Literally ya’ll was just talking about trading people when they are at their high point


I admit Hunter is injury prone, but healthy he is a 6’8 combo forward you can slot next too Randle or RJ and he allows them to play RJ as a sixth man. Hart had 4 pts in 34 minutes last game and is about to be paid $18 Mil and everybody goes on some “but he is Brunson’s best friend in college“. Get him out of here now before that extension kicks in.



Murray is a risk, but the reason he failed in Atlanta was as much an issue with Trae being a selfish as anything else. We know Brunson, can play off ball. He went to the WCF playing off ball to Luka Ball.

Dawg you still impressed by size

Hunter is just a slightly better cam reddish @staticshock @Rickdogg44

 

[storyteller]

Actively suing the raptors

Is there a write up on this.

This is a nice summation:

Knicks seek $10 million from Raptors in lawsuit alleging a "mole" stole proprietary information

The Knicks argue that a federal court needs to mitigate the dispute, not Adam Silver as league bylaws state.

www.nbcsports.com

. The Knicks filed a lawsuit against the Raptors in August alleging that Ikechukwu Azotam — who by the end of his three years with New York was the director of video/analytics/player development assistant — sent the Raptors organization and rookie head coach Darko Rajakovic more than 3,000 confidential, proprietary files including video scouting files and play frequency numbers, before Azotam joined the Raptors last summer. The argument the Knicks made was, in part, that Rajakovic didn’t have the depth of background and didn’t know how to build a team structure, so he stole the Knicks (despite Rajakovic having coached in Serbia, having been head coach of the Tulsa 66ers of the G-League, and being an assistant known for player development with the Thunder, Suns and Grizzlies).

• The reaction around the league — and from people who have done Azotam’s job with other teams and spoke with NBC Sports — could be boiled down to eye rolls and “only James Dolan” responses (the Knicks owner is notoriously litigious). While the information was moved in a rather awkward fashion (through Dropbox) it was not seen as anything crazy or outside how things typically operate around the league.