Verzuz Presents: Fat Joe vs Ja Rule 9/14 @ 9PM ET

[C-Styles]

the culture needed that Ja vs 50 though. Imagine Ja crushes 50 what it would've done to shift the goal post on Ja's career

But even then with this Dub that Ja got, it lets you know that Live performances are everything, not that corny rap over your lyrics sh*t. Ja is a hell of a performer live, as well as he should with a voice like that. Joe man, smh disappointed me rapping over his vocals, like breh, you ain't confident enough to rock a crowd raw

This is why at the end of the day, practicing and sharpening your skills so you can sound as good live as you do in the studio go a long way. These studio rappers are getting a reality check on how perception works 20 years down the line

I don't wanna hear today's "rappers" do a verzuz 10 years down the road just to see be a debacle the way their sh*t aged like milk and sound even sh*ttier live

 

[dizzy4111]

Gonna try to watch this tonight and haven't read any of the thread. Was it entertaining?

 

[NSSVO]

 

[NSSVO]

Joey getting his ass kicked

 

[NSSVO]

And Joe lookin like a lame and calling females bytches and shyt

 

[Deltron]

Gonna try to watch this tonight and haven't read any of the thread. Was it entertaining?

to an extent...but it wasn't as entertaining as Lox/Dips, Soulja/Bow, X/Snoop, etc.

Probably one of the lesser Verzuz in the grand scheme of the series.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Joe coming out too aggressive was the problem it's one thing if Ja also did but he was chill. Agreed a more relaxed story telling vibe would've been dope and Joes songs would have gone over better with the ladies in the crowd. My man came outThem Dusty bytches in the back Your clothes are trash

Yeah it was about presentation as much as it was about the music

Everybody going into a Verzuz should know by now that you are under the microscope and ppl are gonna dissect your stage presence, your energy, etc etc all of that.

Joe came out there swinging hard and immediately made himself the villain in ppls mind. And Ja had enough presence of mind to recognize that and let Joe play himself.

He never once cried victim about anything Joe said and the only thing he called Joe on the carpet for was his disrespect of the ladies. Ja was extremely strategic in his approach of everything last night and future artists need to understand this and be strategic as well.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

He should've switched strategies, however he didn't do anything different from what he always does. He performed the way he always performs, even the ish talkin. He hypes up his tracks, says no one can do it like him etc...hell, he does the same on his albums. It just didn't work for that crowd...a crowd which it never would've worked for to begin with. It was mostly women, and maybe a younger crowd. Hell, Lox vs Dip Set turns out different with that crowd.

How you know it wasn't the same crowd?

 

[Deltron]

How you know it wasn't the same crowd?

c'mon now, anyone could see they weren't / aren't the same crowd.

 

[badboys11]

Damn Ja made Fat Joe lean all the way back. By the second half it was a like a ja rule appreciation concert. That had to be humbling seeing the lack of response from his home crowd, while ja got all the girls singing his hooks loud as fukk

Thought he would go harder with the big pun collabos, but honestly fat Joe has always been the weakest link on any posse cut post 2000. There's a reason puffy wouldn't let him on life after death, not to mention on his podcasts he was always in the studio with people making legendary music, never on the song

And what happened to Nelly? Who stole his voice box? That shyt was horrible.

Ashanti and Remy ma on the other hand

 

[Easy-E]

I skipped this; what would ya'll rate it 1 to 10?

 

[mson]

the culture needed that Ja vs 50 though. Imagine Ja crushes 50 what it would've done to shift the goal post on Ja's career

But even then with this Dub that Ja got, it lets you know that Live performances are everything, not that corny rap over your lyrics sh*t. Ja is a hell of a performer live, as well as he should with a voice like that. Joe man, smh disappointed me rapping over his vocals, like breh, you ain't confident enough to rock a crowd raw

This is why at the end of the day, practicing and sharpening your skills so you can sound as good live as you do in the studio go a long way. These studio rappers are getting a reality check on how perception works 20 years down the line

I don't wanna hear today's "rappers" do a verzuz 10 years down the road just to see be a debacle the way their sh*t aged like milk and sound even sh*ttier live

Not everybody has instrumentals to rhyme over. They just lower their vocals. I thought that's what Joe did for the most part. He wasn't lipsynching or anything.

 

[Deltron]

I skipped this; what would ya'll rate it 1 to 10?

5/10

 

[Alexander Wiggin]

The highlight of the night was ashanti chun li like thighs. My god, she's so scrumptious

 

[Playaz Eyez]

In fairness, we let crowd reaction dictate shyt too much, this is my number 1 issue with battle rap too. Too much shyt that has nothing to do with catalog/skill has influence over how a crowd is reacting so that's a terrible way to gauge who won or loss.

I think Ja won just because of how he rocked, his energy and performance was stellar...the crowd was awful in general, I didn't take them into account at all.

Yea I think Ja and Joe both had good performances, but the crowd was awful. I’m not sure if it was because it was a different crowd than from the LOX/Dipset Verzuz, or if something was wrong with the audio, like it was muted or something, but whatever it was, it was bad