Verzuz Presents: Fat Joe vs Ja Rule 9/14 @ 9PM ET

[Frida Giezman]

For people saying ja’s music aged poorly

well surprise if you didn’t like his music back then you’re probably not gonna like it now

I’m not even a fan of his like that but his mainstream songs aged beautifully imo

that man could write the shyt out of a song

I mean come on what are we doing here jada voice

 

[Frida Giezman]

And I wish I woulda came in this thread earlier cuz I don’t know how anyone in their right mind could pick fat joe of all people to beat jarule in a versuz smh lol

 

[mson]

? I didn't address that at all...it's not about time period alone, it's about familiarity. The reason "Flow Joe" fell so flat is because nobody knows that shyt, lol. The reason the Big L record fell so flat is because nobody knows that shyt. Etc... When I say "nobody" I mean the masses. Ja kept telling him "Nobody knows this shyt you playing". Lol, facts.

Where Fat Joe fukked up at is he tried to basically redo what the Lox did...the difference is the Lox were a fukking movement for real...just like the Dips. They can get that underground, gritty shyt off and it still resonate because we was really into and following them like that, we know that miscellaneous shyt too. Nobody was following Fat Joe, lol, the masses aint up on his super underground shyt like that outside maybe some ricans.

With Ja, you can check the charts, a lot of that shyt wasn't "hit records"....but we would see and hear it on 106 and Park and shyt like that...it was on the radio...etc... Familiarity. In real time we was calling that shyt ass, lol.

I would say that you have a point if this was taking place anywhere outside of Ny. Flow Joe would ring off depending on what kind of NYC crowd you get. Crack took a shot.

 

[AMcV'88]

this versuz wouldve been better off when it wasn't live a show/concert situation.
I didn't watch it but keep it a buck, everything about this looked embarrassing.

LOX and Dipset felt special even with Dipset being a mess. imagine if they actually turned up??
they could've booked both of those groups just to talk about the Versuz and it would've sold more tickets and had more interest than last night.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

He did destroy ja with help of Eminem and the biggest label at the time. With that being said ja's music aged better than em and 50s

Ja had Eminem HEATED

 

[mson]

this versuz wouldve been better off when it wasn't live a show/concert situation.
I didn't watch it but keep it a buck, everything about this looked embarrassing.

LOX and Dipset felt special even with Dipset being a mess. imagine if they actually turned up??
they could've booked both of those groups just to talk about the Versuz and it would've sold more tickets and had more interest than last night.

I disagree with you. What was embarrassing about it?

 

[Frida Giezman]

I would say that you have a point if this was taking place anywhere outside of Ny. Flow Joe would ring off depending on what kind of NYC crowd you get. Crack took a shot.

Not too many people under the age of about 38 are gonna remember or even know that record at all

I wasn’t mad at joe opening up with that though

 

[Frida Giezman]

I got to see twinz on the play back

remy killed that shyt

 

[Deltron]

think the dopest thing from Joe's set was the Shook Ones part

 

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

The biggest reaction was to WHATS LUV

 

[Raquinotj]

He did destroy ja with help of Eminem and the biggest label at the time. With that being said ja's music aged better than em and 50s

lmao. 50 music to this day is more relevant than Ja even with all the mega hits, 50 currently has 19 million monthly listeners on Spotify and Ja only has 5 matter of fact the entire Murder inc Catalog including Ashanti(3 million) can’t reach the 9 million mark. 50 literally put them out of business. If you was old enough it wasn’t necessarily the mainstream records but them GUnit- Radio Mixtapes were everywhere. I’d be mad too if I was Irv, he tried to blackball 50 cent and 50 came and took the meal ticket away.

 

[Alvin]

Joe should have realized that street shyt wasnt gonna do anything when he dropped Ante Up (he's not even on the song lol) and crowd went mild. Even My Lifestyle didnt resonate. That's when he should have reverted to some different type of songs.

But even that Joe is not on Ja's level. As an artist, he's C tier at best but he thinks he's higher, like he's really delusional about his body of work. He is on plenty of mainstream hits, has a great ear for beats but nobody checks for his verses, let's be real :
- Remy Man owns Lean Back
- Pun owns Twinz
- Ashanti owns What's luv
- Jada owns New York and My Lifestyle
- R Kelly owns We thuggin
And so on.

As a rapper, he simply does not have that many memorable verses. Like the only verses I really feel from him are
- Flow Joe
- My lifestyle
- We takin ova (and he's outshone by everbody but Birdman lol)
- The crackhouse (where he flipped the Rihanna Ella)
- Who got gunz (I got 7 mac 11)
And yesterday those kinda tracks were doing nothing considering the crowd

No disrespect to Fat Joe as he's an influential dude in hip hop and has been for 30 years but strictly as a rapper, he's way out of his league. Man should have battled 2Chainz

Ja got to shine but that singing shyt didnt really aged well. Still beat Joe easily though

success is a cool joe record

 

[Alvin]

THIS is who they let call black men nikkaz and black women crackheads…

…Nah fam, I’m done. Y’all got it.

someone said he look like beiber

 

[Alvin]

Ashanti's thighs >>> Fat Joe's outfit change
Lil Mo's voice >>> Fat Joe's on stage tricking
Remy Ma's gangsta >>> Fat Joe's back catalog

Jadakiss performing his verse to New York again and it still sounding hard >>> Everyone on that stage