US Prepares To Provide A Billion To Ukraine As Detroit Plans Mass Water Shutoffs Over $260 Million

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

i never even thought of it like that

what do they do then? just hop in the benz (hybrid) and move to another city and flourish?

or do they just stay in the city cause they too broke to move and crime shoots through the roof while you sit at home like



you a funny cat

Again, why do you not think about how foreign policy works?

How do you think bananas get shipped to your grocer? How do you get iphones? How do you get cheap textiles?

All this shyt is connected.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

anyone else feel like there is a plan for Detroit
sabotage it
devalue it
buy it up
fix it up
sell for a hyped up price

I read in the WSJ last week that they're planning on bringing in more immigrants with special visas to help revitalize the place.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303795904579431523594192390

it won't completely fail, but it'll be a shell of it former self.

Detroit needs to go through a bankrupcy phase and stop trying to be what it used to be. A more humble and efficient city is whats needed.

Stop chasing the past.

 

[Just like bruddas]

Yet you're in here defending your views with impunity, correct? heh:

told you before, giving money to countries that havent been right since the soviet and nazi days isn't the best way to stop expansion.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

told you before, giving money to countries that havent been right since the soviet and nazi days isn't the best way to stop expansion.

Its worked pretty well thus far.

 

[Uncle Kingpin]

@Napoleon you have no idea what your talking about. American involvement in foreign affairs benefits no one except multinational corporations who have no loyalty to any state. We have been funding thousands of NGO's and ultra-right wing nationalists in Ukraine afor the past few years to incite the overthrow of a russia-friendly govt. If the tables were turned, and Russia funded narco-terrorists to overthrow Mexico, we would do way more than what russia has.

Ukraine needs to solve their own problems, with their own money.

 

[Just like bruddas]

Its worked pretty well thus far.

Really?

Last time I checked Georgia got caught out there with their pants down

Only success story is Poland, but their just about useless. Even with our missile shield that never been test, how much rent its costing us?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

@Napoleon you have no idea what your talking about. American involvement in foreign affairs benefits no one except multinational corporations who have no loyalty to any state.

This is again, false.

Looking at how antsy Poland, Lithuania, Lativa and other ex-soviet nations started getting antsy, this shyt is not a joke.

They fear Russian expansion and don't want to return to that. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...itary-brigade-with-Ukraine-and-Lithuania.html

If the tables were turned, and Russia funded narco-terrorists to overthrow Mexico, we would do way more than what russia has.

So?

Ukraine needs to solve their own problems, with their own money.

This is again showing a lack of understanding.

Ukraine was being bid on. Russia offered a few billion and the EU countered with something Russia couldn't put up.

Really?

Last time I checked Georgia got caught out there with their pants down

Only success story is Poland, but their just about useless. Even with our missile shield that never been test, how much rent its costing us?

Georgia has NOTHING on Ukraine in terms of size or geopolitical influence...much less resources.

Plus, from what I remember, didn't Georgia start that shyt by invading South Ossetia?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

This is again showing a lack of understanding.

Ukraine was being bid on. Russia offered a few billion and the EU countered with something Russia couldn't put up.

What does the bid have to do with the Russian invasion?

 

[Just like bruddas]

This is again, false.

Looking at how antsy Poland, Lithuania, Lativa and other ex-soviet nations started getting antsy, this shyt is not a joke.

They fear Russian expansion and don't want to return to that. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...itary-brigade-with-Ukraine-and-Lithuania.html

So?


This is again showing a lack of understanding.

Ukraine was being bid on. Russia offered a few billion and the EU countered with something Russia couldn't put up.



Georgia has NOTHING on Ukraine in terms of size or geopolitical influence...much less resources.

Plus, from what I remember, didn't Georgia start that shyt by invading South Ossetia?

Invest billions in a failed fascist government, just to have them fall right back into Russia's hands in 3 years brehs

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

@Napoleon you have no idea what your talking about. American involvement in foreign affairs benefits no one except multinational corporations who have no loyalty to any state. We have been funding thousands of NGO's and ultra-right wing nationalists in Ukraine afor the past few years to incite the overthrow of a russia-friendly govt. If the tables were turned, and Russia funded narco-terrorists to overthrow Mexico, we would do way more than what russia has.

Ukraine needs to solve their own problems, with their own money.

Is your position really that America being the dominant super-power in the world offers absolutely no benefits to its citizens? Because that isn't really a position based on reality. You can debate the practicality of what we are doing in the Ukraine and compare it to the relative inaction in saving Detroit, but don't go full retard

 

[godkiller]

No they wont.

Russians ar already closing themselves off. All the oligogarchs are repatriating funds and money is drying up for foreign investments from russia.

The Russians are withdrawing funds because the US is sanctioning them and theya re afraid of losing their money. That begs the question: if the US so heavily relies on Russia for petrochemicals, and the government is afraid Russia will stop selling, why would Obama risk sanctioning them? As far as I can tell, nothing has changed nationally since sanctions on Russia began and Russia invaded Ukraine. I also find it hard to believe the cost of bread would rise 10 dollars if we don't give Ukraine tens of billions of dolars because the cost of bread didn't rise close to that much during the 2008 economic crisis. As far as I'm aware the US economy is still recovering at a leisurely pace and the Russia-Ukraine debacle hasn't that trend. Moreover it is against Russian economic interest to stop selling petrochemicals. They have nothing else and the oligraphs depend on that money to survive as well as maintain control over legions. Their lives depend on the damn oil industry. The USA does not even get oil from Ukraine. It gets oil from Russia. The 15 countries the USA gets oil from are:

1. CANADA
2. MEXICO
3. SAUDI ARABIA
4. VENEZUELA
5. NIGERIA
6. IRAQ
7. COLOMBIA
8. RUSSIA
9. ALGERIA
10. ANGOLA
11. KUWAIT
12. BRAZIL
13. ECUADOR
14. NORWAY
15. UNITED KINGDOM

Where is the Ukraine breh?

 

[Uncle Kingpin]

Is your position really that America being the dominant super-power in the world offers absolutely no benefits to its citizens? Because that isn't really a position based on reality. You can debate the practicality of what we are doing in the Ukraine and compare it to the relative inaction in saving Detroit, but don't go full retard

Every empire throughout history collapses due to expansionism and being unable to support its debts, and Ukraine involves both. What are these benefits you speak of that average citizens gain? The only real one we have is our currency being the world's reserve, which artificially keeps our costs low. But China and Russia have already made preparations for no longer using dollars, and provoking them will only accelerate the process.

 

[godkiller]

Again, why do you not think about how foreign policy works?

How do you think bananas get shipped to your grocer? How do you get iphones? How do you get cheap textiles?

All this shyt is connected.

I'm sorry but do you think Ukraine has much to do with American bananas and iphones and textiles? if so, since Russia already has control of Ukraine, why hasn't the price of these items risen exponentially or the items gone missing altogether? When do you think these changes will happen, oh geopolitical master meld?

Please tell me how much bananas' cost will go up now that Russia controls Ukraine.

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

Every empire throughout history collapses due to expansionism and being unable to support its debts, and Ukraine involves both. What are these benefits you speak of that average citizens gain? The only real one we have is our currency being the world's reserve, which artificially keeps our costs low. But China and Russia have already made preparations for no longer using dollars, and provoking them will only accelerate the process.

If you think past events are a completely accurate predictor of the future, you can make a killing in the stock market breh. Our debt is a problem if you are only looking at it in nominal dollars where large numbers frighten you. The fact of the matter is that it is an easily correctable issue, so I just don't see it when it comes to the doom and gloom outlooks on our debt situation.

You ask what benefits and then provide an enormous one whose effects extend deep into the lives of every American

Russia is a declining power. They are basically Saudi Arabia with a reputation for trying to flex on the west. All Europe has to do is diversify its energy sourcing away from Russia and they will literally have no leverage over the west. China, while gaining ground, still has a very long way to go before they can step up and be the top dog on the world stage. That bubble-filled economy bursts and we'll see how strong they really are. The rest of the world is going to follow these bums into rejecting the dollar? For what reason? It definitely won't be risk aversion.

 

[the next guy]

Detroit a mismanaged shythole though

Ukraine isn't? Don't forget this is a civil conflict.