(Update)Incels and redpillers finally got a win.Captain Marvel 2:The Marvels opened to 47 million over the weekend.Making it MCU worst opening ever.

[Turbulent]

Kill Bill would be scrutinized today. Kill Bill, Alien, Terminator 2.etc happened way before social media, and this current culture war became a thing. The "women are taking over men" brainworm wasn't really as prominent as it is now. Same way as Brandy's Cinderella didn't get a lot of flak when it came out, but you couldn't do that today without big pushback. No one is going to retroactively attack 20-40 year old films that in some cases, existed before they were born.


Twitter age, culture wars has changed how people interpret media. Decades ago, you didn't have Fox News and online talking heads screaming about "Woke agendas" and telling people what they should be offended by. If Captain Marvel released in 2004, no one would be complaining about "forced agendas", if it was bad, people would say it was bad and move on.

Like even films like Legally Blonde, or Mean Girls couldn't be released today without people calling them woke.

Back then you also didn't have directors accusing you of being sexist/homophobic for not watching their movies.

 

[Hitchens]

Nothing is wrong with having an agenda if not negative. The issue here is it was heavy handed and sloppy.

Again the scene in Endgame was HORRIBLE. People sucked their teeth in the theater. It was a literal pause in the story and action and someone saying “GIRL POWER! GIRLS KICK ASS TOO”.

None of the Marvels have enough cache for anyone to care about.

This agenda is negative because it’s done terribly so the effect is negative not to mention it’s unnecessary.

Nobody complained about Rogue in Xmen, Black Widow, Storm etc.

We’ve been watching women kick ass on screen since Jackie Brown but those were done dope. We watch Tarantino have trilogy with Kill Bill female led. Classic. No agenda just kick ass movies.

This shyt and Star Wars was done simply to try and attract a female audience without having dope storylines behind it. Audiences aren’t dumb. That’s why they are flopping.

It really amazes me when people get mad at audiences for saying hey I’m not watching that shyt.

Kill Bill would be scrutinized today. Kill Bill, Alien, Terminator 2.etc happened way before social media, and this current culture war became a thing. The "women are taking over men" brainworm wasn't really as prominent as it is now. Same way as Brandy's Cinderella didn't get a lot of flak when it came out, but you couldn't do that today without big pushback. No one is going to retroactively attack 20-40 year old films that in some cases, existed before they were born.


Twitter age, culture wars has changed how people interpret media. Decades ago, you didn't have Fox News and online talking heads screaming about "Woke agendas" and telling people what they should be offended by. If Captain Marvel released in 2004, no one would be complaining about "forced agendas", if it was bad, people would say it was bad and move on.

Like even films like Legally Blonde, or Mean Girls couldn't be released today without people calling them woke.

You save me from typing. I was gonna give a similar response.

 

[Traveler]

Yup

They'd say the same about a movie starring US

I'm not down with shytting on female lead films

Just make it good

That's why I specifically cited black widow. Most people loved her.

 

[Moose_Greyjoy]

BURN IT ALL TO THE GROUND

 

[Kenny West]

Wild that we're at a point in time where someone is accused of being a nerd and incel for NOT stanning a comic book movie. Disney shills have lost the plot entirely

With that said, this movie has been plenty advertised and the subject of hella long ass topics around the internet. It's weird to see so much discussion about this movie while people simultaneously chant about it having no buzz. A lot of these haters are definitely gonna watch to justify their video essays and online rants so the fronting here is kinda incredible.

Even weirder that so many people are on some "It's just a bad movie!" before it even came out yet. And this is someone who wanted my money back after the first captain marvel after feeling tricked that it was something advertised as a movie you needed to see for Endgame.

It actually doesn't even look that bad

Kill Bill would be scrutinized today. Kill Bill, Alien, Terminator 2.etc happened way before social media, and this current culture war became a thing. The "women are taking over men" brainworm wasn't really as prominent as it is now. Same way as Brandy's Cinderella didn't get a lot of flak when it came out, but you couldn't do that today without big pushback. No one is going to retroactively attack 20-40 year old films that in some cases, existed before they were born.


Twitter age, culture wars has changed how people interpret media. Decades ago, you didn't have Fox News and online talking heads screaming about "Woke agendas" and telling people what they should be offended by. If Captain Marvel released in 2004, no one would be complaining about "forced agendas", if it was bad, people would say it was bad and move on.

Like even films like Legally Blonde, or Mean Girls couldn't be released today without people calling them woke.

This is so true. It goes both ways too. When the first CM & Wonder woman came out people were acting like it was the first time a woman was the lead in an action movie & was revolutionary & divisive because of it. Even mfs on here was on some goofy ass "Little girls finally have an action hero they can look up to! "

I was confused as shyt because I grew up seeing stuff like Kill Bill, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, dark angel, Xena Warrior princess etc. None of that shyt was divisive and they were pretty popular to their fans. They went over easy and nobody was hand wringing about their disbelief of these female characters being able to beat men in a fight

I blame Disney more than anyone for leaning into this culture war garbage and agendas to make excuses and shyt on their own fans to justify a bad product. They were the first (and practically the only one still) to use this "The movie wasn't bad, the fans are just incel nerds!" playbook. At this point people have dug their heels in.

The whole going to war with their own fans shyt is a amazingly bad PR and should be written about in textbooks for marketing courses as a cautionary tale. You'll never see the Harry Potter franchise calling their fans "mousey dykes that need to get more sun" when something from that franchise flops. Nerds are just easy targets in that regard

 

[Diunx]

Not surprised, the first one was aggressively mediocre and extremely forgettable

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

Back then you also didn't have directors accusing you of being sexist/homophobic for not watching their movies.

Also, back then, those who worked in the entertainment industry had more talent and could write.

 

[Kiyoshi-Dono]

'Black' posters on the coli sounding like racist comicsgate cacs again

Yep defend one of the actresses that participated in this bullshyt you shea butter pissing fakkit

 

[JamesJabdi]

didn't even know this was coming out....MCU fumbled the bag

 

[Spiider]

I’ll die on this hill but I think Endgame should have never happened.

Endgame should have been their entire next phase, rebuilding from the snap. Would have gave them a decade more of movies to truly flesh out everything and set up the Mutants for X-Men.

Oh well.

There was no way that they were going to get rid of Spider-man, Iron Man, Black Panther and half of the Guardians of The Galaxy for an entire decade. People would’ve been complaining about the movies even more than they are right now

 

[Lootha VanDraws]

Y'all ran that 'incel' shyt into the ground. We need a one year moratorium on it now.

Incel, Incel
He's our man--
If he can't do it, Redpill can!

Spoiler

 

[Iverson_64]

I've seen more ads and coverage for this movie than I saw for any of the last few. Multiple teasers, multiple trailers, lots of press and buzz.

It just doesn't look good.

And the audience knows what it is getting with all three of them.

Brie Larson, Black Marvel, and Indian Marvel were never gonna get white incel nerds and adjacents to come out.

The real story is that they're not gonna get the Barbie crowd.

Cause females will come out and support a bash the patriarchy movie - provided they like the female leads. But white women didn't vote for Hilary. They're not gonna support Brie.

They might have gone out for Black Widow, with a better script and better timing .. but even then, Scar Jo appeals to men.

This. I pick up coffee at McDonald's often before and after work and I saw huge posters and toy promos for the Marvels.

 

[Lootha VanDraws]

None of the women in this film make my snake slither, so I'll pass on this one.

 

[Canon]

I think most people are burned out on marvel and the first movie was meh

time to bring back the heavy hitters

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Yup

They'd say the same about a movie starring US

I'm not down with shytting on female lead films

Just make it good

That's the funny thing when I see people of this site complain about wokeness and agenda in movies and shows because the inclusion of black folks falls in the category too