(Update)Incels and redpillers finally got a win.Captain Marvel 2:The Marvels opened to 47 million over the weekend.Making it MCU worst opening ever.

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I don't think it's superhero fatigue because Spider-Man has been spammed at us for the past decade and been successful. I'm talking games, live action, animated movies, etc. Batman also does well.

If you keep your finger on the pulse, you'll realize women are chirping for Wonder Woman to get a more faithful adaptation in the DC reboot. She's a beloved character. There's a whole list of characters they want to see from Circe to Zatanna to Vixen.

The MCU isn't writing good stories. Captain Marvel isn't an interesting or charismatic character. Women liked Barbie because the movie was fun and vulnerable, they saw themselves in aspects of it. None of the women I know see themselves in Captain Marvel at all. It's been four years since we've seen her...why didn't they take advantage of some of these tv shows they're spamming to flesh out her bland character?

Because they're too busy introducing a million new heroes at the same time. There's so many new people in the MCU I can't even keep track of them anymore.
 
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Disney has destroyed two of the greatest things ever in my lifetime:

Star Wars and the MCU

And it's been awful watching it slowly happening.

They're gonna need Deadpool to save this

Otherwise X-Men gonna be pure ASS and the nail in the coffin

This is why I’m passionate about the subject. These were 2 franchises I enjoyed with my father. Something we both liked.

Hopes to be able to enjoy it with my kids.

We all agreed this last Star Wars run was horrendous. My kids didn’t want to see the shyt.
 

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nikka is incels because they don’t want to support a garbage ass product?

You sound like a bytch.

They fukked up both marvel and Star Wars. Both horrible. But you know, you a incel if you don’t like it.

If you're not one of those guys who create 1,000 youtube videos bytching about how Captain Marvel ruined the world and women shouldn't be superheroes, then OP is not referring to you.
 

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A lot of the Infinity Saga movies were mid and buns but cats gave them a pass because of the post credits scenes

The good MCU movies of the Infinity Saga were so great that cats ignored a lot of the trash and mid ones

And it’s no coincidence that those classic MCU joints were more serious in tone
 
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A lot of the Infinity Saga movies were mid and buns but cats have them a pass because of the post credits scenes

The good MCU movies of the Infinity Saga were so great that cats ignored a lot of the trash and mid ones

And it’s no coincidence that those classic MCU joints were more serious in tone

'Man of Steel' is better than the majority of those films.
 

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They will never top Infinity War/Endgame. That shyt was a magical moment in time.

This^

I literally said "Aight, time to get off the ride" after Ironman died + Cap retired. :manny:And the quality of the following movies only reinforced my decision. Im pretty much superheroed out
 

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Nothing is wrong with having an agenda if not negative. The issue here is it was heavy handed and sloppy.

Again the scene in Endgame was HORRIBLE. People sucked their teeth in the theater. It was a literal pause in the story and action and someone saying “GIRL POWER! GIRLS KICK ASS TOO”.

None of the Marvels have enough cache for anyone to care about.

This agenda is negative because it’s done terribly so the effect is negative not to mention it’s unnecessary.

Nobody complained about Rogue in Xmen, Black Widow, Storm etc.

We’ve been watching women kick ass on screen since Jackie Brown but those were done dope. We watch Tarantino have trilogy with Kill Bill female led. Classic. No agenda just kick ass movies.

This shyt and Star Wars was done simply to try and attract a female audience without having dope storylines behind it. Audiences aren’t dumb. That’s why they are flopping.

It really amazes me when people get mad at audiences for saying hey I’m not watching that shyt.

Kill Bill would be scrutinized today. Kill Bill, Alien, Terminator 2.etc happened way before social media, and this current culture war became a thing. The "women are taking over men" brainworm wasn't really as prominent as it is now. Same way as Brandy's Cinderella didn't get a lot of flak when it came out, but you couldn't do that today without big pushback. No one is going to retroactively attack 20-40 year old films that in some cases, existed before they were born.


Twitter age, culture wars has changed how people interpret media. Decades ago, you didn't have Fox News and online talking heads screaming about "Woke agendas" and telling people what they should be offended by. If Captain Marvel released in 2004, no one would be complaining about "forced agendas", if it was bad, people would say it was bad and move on.

Like even films like Legally Blonde, or Mean Girls couldn't be released today without people calling them woke.
 

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I wanna know what do they think of classic black cinema like Boyz n da Hood , Set it Off and others. Alot of Classic black cinema tend to have a strong message/agenda
It's not the agenda that's the problem imo. It's when you take characters/franchises/stories that already exist and already have their own conventions and infuse them with the agenda that wasn't originally there. Why not create a brand new IP, brand new franchise and characters and put whatever agenda you want in there? The way they do it now just lacks creativity and is straight up lazy.

Boyz in the hood was written with an agenda since it's inception and that's ok.
 
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