UK says Africans need to pay the diaspora reparations

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Y'all will blame everyone but the evil white man. They have wiped the internet clean to mirror their image and deceived you into believing that black people caused slavery.

Sir, Africans were treated like animals. Whatever map you see now, Europeans drew it down on a desk. There were countries only tribes.

I'm African and live in Africa. The white man arrived in Africa with guns and was fighting africans who had spears. You think anyone was sold? The stories you hear from white folks are not the stories our grandfathers told us about stolen blacks. Keep believing this whitewashed propaganda.


African leaders definitely did sell other Africans. But your 100% right,in many instances the leaders set up a method of selling and who and how many would be sold. The European backdoored them anyway and took whoever they wanted. Making deals with Africans who would sell whoever. Alfonso 1 of the Kongo even wrote letters trying to stop it. People connected to the royal regime were even being taken and sold.


"With new plantations in São Tomé demanding huge numbers of laborers, the hunger for slaves grew, and soon after, the trade got out of control. Afonso tried to rein it in. In a letter he wrote to Portugal's King João III in 1526, he was vocal about how the trade was gradually depleting his kingdom and how he wanted to stop it. "Our country is being completely depopulated, and Your Highness should not agree with this", he pointed out, stressing that "it is our will that in these Kingdoms there should not be any trade of slaves nor outlet for them."

The trade was driven by the greed of both Portuguese merchants and Afonso's own people, who, as he wrote, were "keenly desirous" of the goods brought into the region by the merchants."


Africans need to pay the families of Africans who were effected. That seems to get lost in all of these threads. People act like the Africans who were taken didnt have families. Those Africans were effected just as black slaves taken to america were. So to say "Africans sold us" doesnt acknowledge the victims who had their families kidnapped. And there were way more of those than leaders who sanctioned and supported slavery.
 

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I'm going to say this again, once you start dna testing, these losers will start back peddling on this topic.

a little over 10 years ago a diasporan ran his dna and found out he directly descended from muslim slave traders in the sahel, who obviously were double crossed.

When the DNA gets involved, "keep the same energy" as ya'll say

Nope! They will falsify DNA results.

 

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. They have wiped the internet clean to mirror their image and deceived you into believing that black people caused slavery.
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What’s the highest level of education you have?
 

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African leaders definitely did sell other Africans. But your 100% right,in many instances the leaders set up a method of selling and who and how many would be sold. The European backdoored them anyway and took whoever they wanted. Making deals with Africans who would sell whoever. Alfonso 1 of the Kongo even wrote letters trying to stop it. People connected to the royal regime were even being taken and sold.


"With new plantations in São Tomé demanding huge numbers of laborers, the hunger for slaves grew, and soon after, the trade got out of control. Afonso tried to rein it in. In a letter he wrote to Portugal's King João III in 1526, he was vocal about how the trade was gradually depleting his kingdom and how he wanted to stop it. "Our country is being completely depopulated, and Your Highness should not agree with this", he pointed out, stressing that "it is our will that in these Kingdoms there should not be any trade of slaves nor outlet for them."

The trade was driven by the greed of both Portuguese merchants and Afonso's own people, who, as he wrote, were "keenly desirous" of the goods brought into the region by the merchants."


Africans need to pay the families of Africans who were effected. That seems to get lost in all of these threads. People act like the Africans who were taken didnt have families. Those Africans were effected just as black slaves taken to america were. So to say "Africans sold us" doesnt acknowledge the victims who had their families kidnapped. And there were way more of those than leaders who sanctioned and supported slavery.

Every West African alive today has ancestors or ancestral relatives who were victims of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade. Even the current aristocrats.

So they should be paying themselves according to some people in this thread.
 

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African leaders definitely did sell other Africans. But your 100% right,in many instances the leaders set up a method of selling and who and how many would be sold. The European backdoored them anyway and took whoever they wanted. Making deals with Africans who would sell whoever. Alfonso 1 of the Kongo even wrote letters trying to stop it. People connected to the royal regime were even being taken and sold.


"With new plantations in São Tomé demanding huge numbers of laborers, the hunger for slaves grew, and soon after, the trade got out of control. Afonso tried to rein it in. In a letter he wrote to Portugal's King João III in 1526, he was vocal about how the trade was gradually depleting his kingdom and how he wanted to stop it. "Our country is being completely depopulated, and Your Highness should not agree with this", he pointed out, stressing that "it is our will that in these Kingdoms there should not be any trade of slaves nor outlet for them."

The trade was driven by the greed of both Portuguese merchants and Afonso's own people, who, as he wrote, were "keenly desirous" of the goods brought into the region by the merchants."


Africans need to pay the families of Africans who were effected. That seems to get lost in all of these threads. People act like the Africans who were taken didnt have families. Those Africans were effected just as black slaves taken to america were. So to say "Africans sold us" doesnt acknowledge the victims who had their families kidnapped. And there were way more of those than leaders who sanctioned and supported slavery.
:ohlawd:My guy is cooking, one of the few in here with common sense
 

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I don’t know the full history of people but I do believe the children of Aristocratic African families who benefitted directly should pay some form of reparations to those in the diaspora.

And if many of them weren’t arrogant wicked people they should be proud in doing so, a strong diaspora means a strong Africa. People always like to talk about how Jewish people were able to consolidate so much power, but the truth is Israel understands it’s true power lies in the Jewish wealth outside of Israel, in the Uk other parts of Europe, in America and so on, any African with power should see things the same way.
 

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African leaders definitely did sell other Africans. But your 100% right,in many instances the leaders set up a method of selling and who and how many would be sold. The European backdoored them anyway and took whoever they wanted. Making deals with Africans who would sell whoever. Alfonso 1 of the Kongo even wrote letters trying to stop it. People connected to the royal regime were even being taken and sold.


"With new plantations in São Tomé demanding huge numbers of laborers, the hunger for slaves grew, and soon after, the trade got out of control. Afonso tried to rein it in. In a letter he wrote to Portugal's King João III in 1526, he was vocal about how the trade was gradually depleting his kingdom and how he wanted to stop it. "Our country is being completely depopulated, and Your Highness should not agree with this", he pointed out, stressing that "it is our will that in these Kingdoms there should not be any trade of slaves nor outlet for them."

The trade was driven by the greed of both Portuguese merchants and Afonso's own people, who, as he wrote, were "keenly desirous" of the goods brought into the region by the merchants."


Africans need to pay the families of Africans who were effected. That seems to get lost in all of these threads. People act like the Africans who were taken didnt have families. Those Africans were effected just as black slaves taken to america were. So to say "Africans sold us" doesnt acknowledge the victims who had their families kidnapped. And there were way more of those than leaders who sanctioned and supported slavery.

Also what’s not talked about is some of the tactics used by Slavetraders to capture slaves, they we’re literally cutting peoples hands off burning villages and forcing those who may be dissuading to capture slaves in sister towns or villages, these points don’t really get talked about though.
 

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I don’t know the full history of people but I do believe the children of Aristocratic African families who benefitted directly should pay some form of reparations to those in the diaspora.

And if many of them weren’t arrogant wicked people they should be proud in doing so, a strong diaspora means a strong Africa. People always like to talk about how Jewish people were able to consolidate so much power, but the truth is Israel understands it’s true power lies in the Jewish wealth outside of Israel, in the Uk other parts of Europe, in America and so on, any African with power should see things the same way.

Every West African has relatives who were sold into slavery. Even aristocrats. For example, many of the Haitian revolutionaries were descendants of African generals and rulers sold into slavery. So, these aristocrats should be paying themselves for their losses?

Also, a lot of present day aristocracy are not the same pre-colonial aristocrats who participated in the slave trade. European colonizers put in place new sets of African aristocracy ie the majority of Igbo rulers today.

You can’t really demonstrate that African aristocrats are liable for damages to you. However, the European/American insurance companies, universities, and countries etc. that sold your ancestors into slavery are around today.
 

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Every West African has relatives who were sold into slavery. Even aristocrats. For example, many of the Haitian revolutionaries were descendants of African generals and rulers sold into slavery. So, these aristocrats should be paying themselves for their losses?

Also, a lot of present day aristocracy are not the same pre-colonial aristocrats who participated in the slave trade. European colonizers put in place new sets of African aristocracy ie the majority of Igbo rulers today.

You can’t really demonstrate that African aristocrats are liable for damages to you. However, the European/American insurance companies, universities, and countries etc. that sold your ancestors into slavery are around today.

They should be paying regardless any African aristocrat who still has riches today that can be directly linked to slavery Aren’t you a socialist? That concept is in line with socialism even away from any talk about slavery, pay your dues.
 

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How would anybody find records of the ancestors of wealthy Africans who sold slaves? If the African family had it they would have destroyed that evidence a long time ago.
 

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They should be paying regardless any African aristocrat who still has riches today that can be directly linked to slavery Aren’t you a socialist? That concept is in line with socialism even away from any talk about slavery, pay your dues.

It’s not clear if they owe dues. Again, a lot of riches aren’t connected to the slave trade. Case-by-case basis which will lead to great disappointment.

For example:

If you’re an Igbo igwe of a town who was appointed to that position because of your business success in selling machine parts to Ghana, you’re not drawing wealth from the slave trade. Especially if some of your ancestors were sold into slavery to Virginia or Barbados!

I’m also for abolishing all forms of aristocracy and their privileges, both de jure and de facto.
 
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