UFC fighter gets into brawl and gets knocked out by a 2x4

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Jeez, friend, a little anxious. :russ: Here you go.

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Tales of derring-do, bad and good luck tales

Whats that mean, friend. :dwillhuh:

Nevermind i googled your thoughts. You're saying ducktales the soundtrack to the childrens cartoon from the 90's. I mean, you asked to see them friend. Please dont attack me from demonic angles like yo mama. Its so demonic, friend. :sitdown:
 

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a belt doesnt make you better ... practice doesnt make you better either

anyone can catch an L


I got belts too but ive had my ass whooped multiple times lets be reality mario brothers
 

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When 2 highly skilled people fight the fight is about who can bring who into their world. Typically the guy with no ground experience will lose that exchange. You've got to deal with it. Still, bjj guys who only study bjj with no standup are pretty much going to make food out of anyone with no training on up to one dimensional strikers with no grappling experience.

Debatable. All I gotta say is..there's a reason why the Gracies hand picked competitors for the first UFC events...and those picked weren't exactly world beaters...more like McDojo artists and weekend warriors. :ld:
 

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Lol...he got attacked while down though. They better pray that bytch dont get them shot...a real man wouldnt stand for that.
 

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Even Mas Oyama admits to losing a fight in which he was jumped by several guys. A serious martial artist will tell you prevention is the best policy. Even worse than getting jumped by a bunch of guys, you can get popped. Martial arts are great to train in and to have as a back-up 'just in case' something happens, but best to avoid these altercations if you can.
 

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You hit my bytch or slide your dikk in her crack then my boys gonna woop your ass fukk boy, what you tryna fight for? Get the fukk outta here. Oh you gonna grind on my female AND fight me? Youre gonna get hurt. Sorry fakkit. No refs here and we do punch the back of the head.

Sorry about his man tho. But home boy copped a reality check fo sho.
 

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Debatable. All I gotta say is..there's a reason why the Gracies hand picked competitors for the first UFC events...and those picked weren't exactly world beaters...more like McDojo artists and weekend warriors. :ld:

Yet here we are today in MMA there are ZERO pure strikers in the ring. People with no ground game cannot exist among mixed martial artists. Lets update our skillsets and become good at grappling so we dont get crushed and tarnished out of stubborness.
 

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Yet here we are today in MMA there are ZERO pure strikers in the ring. People with no ground game cannot exist among mixed martial artists. Lets update our skillsets and become good at grappling so we dont get crushed and tarnished out of stubborness.

Nor are there pure grapplers. :mjpls:

But this isnt about the sport of MMA in which one is required to be well rounded....this is about the claim that someone skilled in jiu jitsu alone would beat almost anyone else trained one dimensionally...which once again is BS. The first UFCs don't mean much as far as BJJ's dominance because 1. Royce went against ppl more suited to fit his style of fighting 2. BJJ is almost obsolete today. If your wrestling is on point there isn't much BJJ can do. Besides...its not the style...its the individual. All a pure striker would have to do is learn how to sprawl and he'd eat a BJJ fighter's food easily...how else would he get him to the ground? Run up and pull guard or butt scoot hoping he'll jump into guard or get close enough for a sweep? :pachaha:
 

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Nor are there pure grapplers. :mjpls:

But this isnt about the sport of MMA in which one is required to be well rounded....this is about the claim that someone skilled in jiu jitsu alone would beat almost anyone else trained one dimensionally...which once again is BS. The first UFCs don't mean much as far as BJJ's dominance because 1. Royce went against ppl more suited to fit his style of fighting 2. BJJ is almost obsolete today. If your wrestling is on point there isn't much BJJ can do. Besides...its not the style...its the individual. All a pure striker would have to do is learn how to sprawl and he'd eat a BJJ fighter's food easily...how else would he get him to the ground? :ld:

You sound silly. There isnt one wrestler competing at a high level in MMA that does not train brazillian jiujitsu. You have to learn brazillian jiujitsu to know how to avoid submission and fight BJJ artists because if you dont, you will be crushed. Wrestling is a great base for grappling but no wrestler that competes in MMA would be silly enough to say he doesnt have to study BJJ because his wrestling is so good.

Royce fought people at a time where no one was putting it all together. Once people started training and studying BJJ and combing that with wrestling and striking the graices took a backseat but their impact on the sport itself is legendary and cannot be just brushed away friend im sorry.
 

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You sound silly. There isnt one wrestler competing at a high level in MMA that does not train brazillian jiujitsu. You have to learn brazillian jiujitsu to know how to avoid submission and fight BJJ artists because if you dont, you will be crushed. Wrestling is a great base for grappling but no wrestler that competes in MMA would be silly enough to say he doesnt have to study BJJ because his wrestling is so good.

Royce fought people at a time where no one was putting it all together. Once people started training and studying BJJ and combing that with wrestling and striking the graices took a backseat but their impact on the sport itself is legendary and cannot be just brushed away friend im sorry.

You kinda strayed from your BJJ is the ultimate style arguement...but I'll play your game. If it is...then why are the overwhelming majority of fighters dominating either wrestling or striking based?:youngsabo: Yeah...you gotta learn BJJ to defend...but that's about it, and over time you're seeing BJJ becoming less and less of a factor these days because its become more and more difficult and risky to use it offensively, seeing that alot of jits offense comes off your back. Once again, without the superior positioning tactics of wrestling, a bjj based fighter isnt getting far these days, and such positioning combined with bjj defense = bjj fighter getting his shyt pushed in as he desperately goes for a sub. Now no ones saying that Bjj wasnt a big factor in MMA, nor that its not a factor now, but it isnt this end-all-be-all style you're making it out to be. All of the styles involved in MMA today are factors...BJJ as a factor however....is shrinking. Example: Royce/Hughes. Both are ground specialists, trained in both BJJ and wrestling....Royce more so BJJ and Hughes wrestling....by your logic Royce should've dominated Matt due to superior BJJ....but of course we all know how that went down:youngsabo:
 

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You kinda strayed from your BJJ is the ultimate style arguement...but I'll play your game. If it is...then why are the overwhelming majority of fighters dominating either wrestling or striking based?:youngsabo: Yeah...you gotta learn BJJ to defend...but that's about it, and over time you're seeing BJJ becoming less and less of a factor these days because its become more and more difficult and risky to use it offensively, seeing that alot of jits offense comes off your back. Once again, without the superior positioning tactics of wrestling, a bjj based fighter isnt getting far these days, and such positioning combined with bjj defense = bjj fighter getting his shyt pushed in as he desperately goes for a sub. Now no ones saying that Bjj wasnt a big factor in MMA, nor that its not a factor now, but it isnt this end-all-be-all style you're making it out to be. All of the styles involved in MMA today are factors...BJJ as a factor however....is shrinking. Example: Royce/Hughes. Both are ground specialists, trained in both BJJ and wrestling....Royce more so BJJ and Hughes wrestling....by your logic Royce should've dominated Matt due to superior BJJ....but of course we all know how that went down:youngsabo:

Wrestling based with bjj purple/black belts. Your argument has no legs.

Its a huge factor because the art has to be learned to be defended. They dont teach you how to work off your back in wrestling, they teach that in Brazillian jiujitsu. The cross training is Mandatory because in MMA you end up on your back. There are no wrestlers who do not spend an incredible amount of time learning Brazillian jiujitsu if they have any aspirations of being a champion. How its used, is up to the artist. A wrestler is not going to use jiujitsu the way a jiujtisu guy will. A wrestler will use it to obtain a position he can pound on you and maybe get a head and arm triangle if its available. A bjj guy wants to end the fight and uses it for the sub. The bjj guys who use their BJJ for dominant position and striking ala Jacare, do well. When ive grappled with state wrestling champs they definately need to learn BJJ....

Also, there is a lot to be said for the genetic level of the said fighters. Roger Gracie is not an athletic specimen compared to someone like Jacare. Typically most wrestlers in mma have freakish talent as an athlete combined with their technique whereas a lot of bjj guys are built like Damien Maia and rely on technique.

There are no wrestling strikers who do not spend a ton of time learning brazillian jiujitsu. By learning it they are able to use it to their advantage/defend it but to say that by learning it, its not longer a factor or a requirment for mma makes no sense when most of the top guys have respetable belts from respectable bjj teachers.

The day of pure anyone is over but the day where wrestlers do not have to learn jiujitsu to succeed is not here. You say *o learn some takedown defense* like these training camps are just glossing over this knowledge. You're being disengenuous and showing ignorance and i believe its because of your own training regiment which doesnt include much grappling. Thats ok for joe blow and entry level fighters but if you want to train to take on dark hearted trained demonic killers, you have to expand. Take your training more serious and learn that bjj, friend.
 
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