UFC 199 [6/4]: "To Live & Die In L.A." (Rockhold/Bisping II, Cruz/Faber III, Holloway/Lamas, & More)

Who Wins June 4th?


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30 isn't old 36 is. and that was the age Silva declined at as well.

Jacre is old, and when he was in his prime he wasn't fukking anderson silva lmao.

CHAEL SONNEN BEAT MICHAEL BISPING LMAO, and Rockhold JUST LOST TO HIM

So Sonnen is the same tier as any of those fighters you named, Leites fought Bising to a decision not to long ago lmao.
Grapplers cause anderson the most problems and he beat them all lmao.

Even know nobody is as good as on their feet as Anderson, he should've got the decision against Bisping.

His only mistake is fighting with his hands down, which he can't do aymore.

He destroyed Sonnen the second fight lmao, also you can't compare what fighters do against other fighters, you should know that by now.

Bisping got destroyed by Hendo and Anderson finished Hendo when Hendo was Pride champion and unified the belts.

if Bisping can knock out Rockhold so can Silva lmao.

Bisping was 37 years old and knock out Rockhold lmao, anderson never got stunted on by a fighter 6 years older than him.

By your logic since Rockhold beat Bisping the first time, bisping had no chance in this fight, we saw what happened lmaol.

:laff: Bispring embarrassed Anderson. Anderson had a great flying knee and thats all

Yoel Romero wrecks any version of Anderson and Jacare does the same. He never fought any grapplers on their level, period.
 
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:laff: Bispring embarrassed Anderson. Anderson had a great flying knee and thats all

Yoel Romero wrecks any version of Anderson and Jacare does the same. He never fought any grapplers on their level, period.

Besides landing the left hook, what did Bisping do lmao

Embarrassed lol

Anderson should've won that fight, Bisping did nothing, Anderson wasn't even damaged at the end of fight

you have no clue what you are talking about

Anderson Silva has champion Yoel Romero got knocked out by a flying knee in strike force

Anderson Silva has high level BJJ, he submitted great wrestlers like Hendo in his prime.

Yoel Romero has beaten nobody except for Tim Kennedy and and washed up Jacre and Machida.

fukk outta here.
 

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30 isn't old 36 is. and that was the age Silva declined at as well.

Jacre is old, and when he was in his prime he wasn't fukking anderson silva lmao.

CHAEL SONNEN BEAT MICHAEL BISPING LMAO, and Rockhold JUST LOST TO HIM

So Sonnen is the same tier as any of those fighters you named, Leites fought Bising to a decision not to long ago lmao.
Grapplers cause anderson the most problems and he beat them all lmao.

Even know nobody is as good as on their feet as Anderson, he should've got the decision against Bisping.

His only mistake is fighting with his hands down, which he can't do aymore.

He destroyed Sonnen the second fight lmao, also you can't compare what fighters do against other fighters, you should know that by now.

Bisping got destroyed by Hendo and Anderson finished Hendo when Hendo was Pride champion and unified the belts.

if Bisping can knock out Rockhold so can Silva lmao.

Bisping was 37 years old and knock out Rockhold lmao, anderson never got stunted on by a fighter 6 years older than him.

By your logic since Rockhold beat Bisping the first time, bisping had no chance in this fight, we saw what happened lmaol.

Sonnen got a gift against Bisping. Stop it. Most people thought he won. He's signature win was when he was roiding against Marquadt. He's not in the same league as anyone don't play stupid. Maia and Leites were scared shytless of Silva to get close to him. Grapplers didn't cause Anderson problems. Wrestlers did. And the best one he fought had him on his back for 6 straight rounds before his awful IQ failed his twice. So it's pretty plausible to believe that much better wrestlers that's in the division now like Jacare, Romero, Weidman would give his problems. And none of them are pillow fisted like Sonnen. You could play this person lost to this person scenarios and use Bisping fluke win over a cocky Rockhold to discredit all you want. Simple fact is this division is much better then Silvas reign. Anyone can see that. But you are a super silva fan boy. LMAO at him beating Bisping. Silva probably threw less then 20 strikes that fight
 
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Sonnen got a gift against Bisping. Stop it. Most people thought he won. He's signature win was when he was roiding against Marquadt. He's not in the same league as anyone don't play stupid. Maia and Leites were scared shytless of Silva to get close to him. Grapplers didn't cause Anderson problems. Wrestlers did. And the best one he fought had him on his back for 6 straight rounds before his awful IQ failed his twice. So it's pretty plausible to believe that much better wrestlers that's in the division now like Jacare, Romero, Weidman would give his problems. And none of them are pillow fisted like Sonnen. You could play this person lost to this person scenarios and use Bisping fluke win over a cocky Rockhold to discredit all you want. Simple fact is this division is much better then Silvas reign. Anyone can see that. But you are a super silva fan boy. LMAO at him beating Bisping. Silva probably threw less then 20 strikes that fight

ANDERSON HAS NEVER LOST TO A WRESTLER IN HIS WHOLE CAREER.

Even when he was submitted early in his career, it was because BJJ, and he wasn't a black belt yet.

He lost in the UFC on the FEET, mistakes he made on the feet, because he's reflexes are not the same.

Wresting has never defeated Anderson Silva at all.

Sonnen was on roids against Anderson too, but you leave that out for your shyt argument.

He had a broken rib the first fight with Sonnen.

Romero has done nonthing in MMA to suggest you could beat Silva in his prime

All beat some old guys, ok.

That's what young fighters should do.

Bisping couldn't get a title shot when Anderson was champ lmao

Anderson falls off and now Bisping is the champ lmao.

So how was the division weaker when Bisping who is damn near 40 is the champ now and he couldn't sniff the belt when he was younger.

LMAO

Romero is just one guy in the division, so how the division is weaker lmao

all the guys from anderon's days are still around that shyt division lmao.
 

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What holes do he exposed, Anderson destroyed him in the second match.
Anderson lost to Weidman on his feet lmao, because he's reflex weren't the same. What does that have to do with Sonnen lmao.

Weidman is in his prime can't even hold the belt and lost to a guy with a glass jaw lmao.

He barely beat old ass machida lmao.

Weidman is basic, he does nothing special.

When Weidman and Rockhold are 36, they weren't be anywhere near the title like Anderson was lmao.
I like Silva...He is the reason why I am an avid MMA fan now...When he triangled Sonnen in the last few seconds of the fight, that sh@t was GLORIOUS...

But I went back to the tape and records, and I am not sure if Anderson fought the best of the best of the middle weight division...If he did, then either the division was super weak or he was just on some "Ronda Rousey" steez (too good for even the good guys in the division) or both...

The division is TOUGHER now than when Silva was champ...Prime Silva is NOT going 10-0 in this current division...

I think the UFC gave Silva certain match-ups they believed would make him want to display all his tools...They matched him up with forward moving strikers, and he did well against them...

I don't think old age is the reason he lost TWICE to Weidman...He lost because fighters like Weidman beat fighters like Silva most of the time...It is match up thing...

This the list of people Silva defended against, tell me how many people on this list do you personally hold in high regards...Nate Marquadt, Rich Franklin, Dan Henderson, Patrick Cote, Thales Leites, Demian Maia, Chael Sonnen, Vitor Belfort, Yushin Okami, Chael Sonnen
 

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Sonnen got a gift against Bisping. Stop it. Most people thought he won. He's signature win was when he was roiding against Marquadt. He's not in the same league as anyone don't play stupid. Maia and Leites were scared shytless of Silva to get close to him. Grapplers didn't cause Anderson problems. Wrestlers did. And the best one he fought had him on his back for 6 straight rounds before his awful IQ failed his twice. So it's pretty plausible to believe that much better wrestlers that's in the division now like Jacare, Romero, Weidman would give his problems. And none of them are pillow fisted like Sonnen. You could play this person lost to this person scenarios and use Bisping fluke win over a cocky Rockhold to discredit all you want. Simple fact is this division is much better then Silvas reign. Anyone can see that. But you are a super silva fan boy. LMAO at him beating Bisping. Silva probably threw less then 20 strikes that fight
Truth...

Prime Silva is NOT going to win 10 straight fights with the current Top 10 in the division...He WILL get slumped before he reaches 5...

The division is SUPER competitive...If you bullsh@t like Silva does, you will LOSE...
 
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I like Silva...He is the reason why I am an avid MMA fan now...When he triangled Sonnen in the last few seconds of the fight, that sh@t was GLORIOUS...

But I went back to the tape and records, and I am not sure if Anderson fought the best of the best of the middle weight division...If he did, then either the division was super weak or he was just on some "Ronda Rousey" steez (too good for even the good guys in the division) or both...

The division is TOUGHER now than when Silva was champ...Prime Silva is NOT going 10-0 in this current division...

I think the UFC gave Silva certain match-ups they believed would make him want to display all his tools...They matched him up with forward moving strikers, and he did well against them...

I don't think old age is the reason he lost TWICE to Weidman...He lost because fighters like Weidman beat fighters like Silva most of the time...It is match up thing...

This the list of people Silva defended against, tell me how many people on this list do you personally hold in high regards...Nate Marquadt, Rich Franklin, Dan Henderson, Patrick Cote, Thales Leites, Demian Maia, Chael Sonnen, Vitor Belfort, Yushin Okami, Chael Sonnen

And 90 percent of that list is still activate and highly ranked, and it's been years.

And Yoel Romeoro beat guys like Brad Travares lmao in the UFC by division.

Bisping is the champ.

Yoel Romero has 6 fights in UFC lmao and all of a sudden he's a fukking world better.

Anderson made a mistake in the first fight, he found his rhythm and go too cocky.

The second fight he made a mistake, you don't throw leg kicks without mixing up punches to prevent the checking of the kick, if you watch any kick boxing you would notice

Weidman made the adjustment from the first fight, it was a credit, but once again, silva show signs of being slower in the second chael fight, his strikes were less precicse, it happens with old age.
 

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ANDERSON HAS NEVER LOST TO A WRESTLER IN HIS WHOLE CAREER.

Even when he was submitted early in his career, it was because BJJ, and he wasn't a black belt yet.

He lost in the UFC on the FEET, mistakes he made on the feet, because he's reflexes are not the same.

Wresting has never defeated Anderson Silva at all.

Sonnen was on roids against Anderson too, but you leave that out for your shyt argument.

He had a broken rib the first fight with Sonnen.

Romero has done nonthing in MMA to suggest you could beat Silva in his prime

All beat some old guys, ok.

That's what young fighters should do.

Bisping couldn't get a title shot when Anderson was champ lmao

Anderson falls off and now Bisping is the champ lmao.

So how was the division weaker when Bisping who is damn near 40 is the champ now and he couldn't sniff the belt when he was younger.

LMAO

Romero is just one guy in the division, so how the division is weaker lmao

all the guys from anderon's days are still around that shyt division lmao.


Exactly. Because he never faced a good wrestler. Don't say Dan Henderson either. Hes greco roman and uses lots of bodylocks/clinch to drag guys down and we know prime Silva was beast in the clinch. Sonnen was on roids but so was everyone back then(probably even Silva) so that point is moot. And he didn't have a broken rib lmao. No commission is clearing him to fight. Same as Rockhold saying he had a torn MCL this fight when it was a minor sprain(hey since you making excuses can we use that for Rockhold losing or does it not count because you don't like him?) Romero has done nothing? How about being a super athletic explosive olympic wrestler who can put Silva on his back at will? Bisping lucked into this fight. Stop acting like he worked his way up. He wouldn't even be considered if Jacare or romero were unavailable. Stop using that as an excuse like the division sucks. Rockhold beats him 9 out of 10 times and he will lose to any other top contender. And who is around outside Leites(who was cut before) and Hendo?
 
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Get dropped multiple times by your opponent and have people say your opponent did nothing brehs :heh:


Get outstruck every single round except the last one and have dumbasses say you earned the decision brehs :smh:
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He didn't get out struck. Anderson was rolling the punches with his shoulders but they countered them a strikes.

That's all he did the whole fight that's why you had it cued it up, becasue it's bisping only moment lmao. Bisping face was battered and beaten lmao.
Even Weidman said he won the fight

anybody eyes could see Anderson won the fight lmao

If anderson got dropped by not even a full shot, if Bisping would was landed all those punches Anderson would've been knocked out

prime example of why mma fans are morons.
 
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Exactly. Because he never faced a good wrestler. Don't say Dan Henderson either. Hes greco roman and uses lots of bodylocks/clinch to drag guys down and we know prime Silva was beast in the clinch. Sonnen was on roids but so was everyone back then(probably even Silva) so that point is moot. And he didn't have a broken rib lmao. No commission is clearing him to fight. Same as Rockhold saying he had a torn MCL this fight when it was a minor sprain(hey since you making excuses can we use that for Rockhold losing or does it not count because you don't like him?) Romero has done nothing? How about being a super athletic explosive olympic wrestler who can put Silva on his back at will? Bisping lucked into this fight. Stop acting like he worked his way up. He wouldn't even be considered if Jacare or romero were unavailable. Stop using that as an excuse like the division sucks. Rockhold beats him 9 out of 10 times and he will lose to any other top contender. And who is around outside Leites(who was cut before) and Hendo?

Everything you are saying is an opinion lmao.

If he guy in strike force could knock Yoel Romero, so could Prime Anderson

you forget how he precise and quick he was in his prime, because he the fall off, people forget.

Yoel has done nothing MMA I'm impressed by sorry.
 

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Everything you are saying is an opinion lmao.

If he guy in strike force could knock Yoel Romero, so could Prime Anderson

you forget how he precise and quick he was in his prime, because he the fall off, people forget.

Yoel has done nothing MMA I'm impressed by sorry.

What exactly is an opinion? Who care about some old strikeforce fight when Romero was first starting out(feijao was roiding too but you not using that as an excuse like you did for Silva against Sonnen lol) I'm not forgetting the skill set of Silva. I'm just saying that these guys now would give him problems. I just don't understand why you don't acknowledge that
 

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the division was weak while Anderson was champ
based on what? Vitor, chael henderson and Bonner were all juiced to the gills and they still couldn't beat him. The current champion lost to every roider he faced. We saw what a roided vitor did to Rockhold and we saw what Silva did to vitor. Hell bisbing finished Rockhold and the same guy got wrecked facially in a dusty decision with Silva even as a geriatric. It makes for good hyperboly to suddenly make out Anderson dominated a weak division but it's a fallacy.
 

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(1) You can get KOd by any professional on any given night...KOs have a lot to with strike placement...
has Leonard Garcia ever knocked anyone out, just out of interest.
(2) The division changed after Chael Sonnen showed fighters you have to be an aggressive wrestler when fighting Silva...Weidman put Silva to sleep and then broke him apart...
you mean to tell me these so called fighters never saw the Travis lutter fight? :leon:

It is a very competitive division...

(3) I think it is a good thing for the belt to exchange hands on any given weekend...It shows that the margin of error is very slim, and you have to be on your "A" game or you are going to sleep...
it's a slippery slope and stands to make the division look like a joke, can anyone legitimately say bisping is head and shoulders the best dude in the division? Jack of some trades master of known? Come on
 

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has Leonard Garcia ever knocked anyone out, just out of interest.you mean to tell me these so called fighters never saw the Travis lutter fight? :leon:

it's a slippery slope and stands to make the division look like a joke, can anyone legitimately say bisping is head and shoulders the best dude in the division? Jack of some trades master of known? Come on

I wouldn't say he's the best in the division, I don't think there is anyone in MW right now who stands head and shoulders above the rest like Silva did or even like Rich Franklin did. But he has put in work for a long time and is a good fighter. I think he did deserve a shot at the title when Silva was champ, he wouldn't have won but he deserved a shot so im happy he's got the belt now. Rockhold probably "should have" beaten him but due to his own over confidence and general douchebaggery he got slumped. Like Bispin said in the post fight, Rockhold has a tendency to drop the right hand when he's doing stuff and Bisping took advantage of that, that's what good fighters do.
 
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