UFC 199 [6/4]: "To Live & Die In L.A." (Rockhold/Bisping II, Cruz/Faber III, Holloway/Lamas, & More)

Who Wins June 4th?


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Big Jo

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Ariel works in the free press. UFC wants to promote the sport, well that means the sport has to have media coverage.

Can't believe some of you are bytching about what he did. He didn't do anything wrong. Dana hates Ariel and he just used this as a reason to get at him.

UFC is a private company. They can ban whoever they want.

Just because Helwani is in the media doesn't make him invincible or immune to repercussions.

He took it on himself to leak something the UFC wanted to announce in grander fashion. They would prefer the fans can hear news break during a live event versus reading it on twitter. It's more exciting to operate that way and Helwani prevented them from doing it. They don't owe him sh1t
 

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Small pet peeve of mine about the ufc what is it with both causal and hardcore fans and this "the greatest" thing :mjlol: seems like every event there is a new greatest (enter weight class) fighter of all time lol or greatest match of all time

:mjlol: Joe Rogan especially kills me when he does that on his podcast, although he has kept it consistent that Anderson is the overall goat
Rogan stays with them classic recyclable phrases man. He's got several
 

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I was a fan of Bisping especially when he trained with Rampage but then he started talking crap about Americans on TUF and Hendo gave him the H bomb and ever since then I stopped liking him. Even Rampage wants to fight Bisping for manager issues, so they don't get along any more. I'm happy for him :manny: I didn't want him to get this fight to be honest but he did what he had to do and took it
 
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the division was weak while Anderson was champ compared to now , Chael Sonnen, Stephan Bonnar, cats like that. I'm not taking anything away from Silva because the way he DOMINATED the division and the WAY he finished the fights, the way he moved, the things he did in the cage like the front kick etc

Bisping was in the division while Anderson was champ and couldn't get close to a title shot

stop with this weak division, anderson just destroyed guys he beat Hendo while Hendo was a champion, and unified the middleweight titles from Pride.

Stop with this nonsense. The division is weak now, because all those guys are old lmao. Bisping is 37 years old and is the champion lmoa.
 
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(1) You can get KOd by any professional on any given night...KOs have a lot to with strike placement...

(2) The division changed after Chael Sonnen showed fighters you have to be an aggressive wrestler when fighting Silva...Weidman put Silva to sleep and then broke him apart...

It is a very competitive division...

(3) I think it is a good thing for the belt to exchange hands on any given weekend...It shows that the margin of error is very slim, and you have to be on your "A" game or you are going to sleep...

Weidman didn't use wrestling to beat Anderson lmao

Sonnen had got destroyed in the second fight.

Anderson got old, his reflexes aren't the same, only reason he's still not the champ

Weidman ain't shyt, Rockhold has a glass joe, Bisping is the champ at 37 lmao
 

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No he hasn't

Look at his fight against against Jacare in Strikeforce. He got dropped a few times in that fight. It's just like his partner Cain Velasquez. Just not the strongest chin in the division.
 

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Look at his fight against against Jacare in Strikeforce. He got dropped a few times in that fight. It's just like his partner Cain Velasquez. Just not the strongest chin in the division.

No he didn't. I was just watching that fight the other day. His knees buckled once from a right but he was never once in serious danger. And he ate shots all night. He just got caught not taking Bisping seriously. And that kick from TRT Vitor would have dropped Heavyweights
 

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Bisping was in the division while Anderson was champ and couldn't get close to a title shot

stop with this weak division, anderson just destroyed guys he beat Hendo while Hendo was a champion, and unified the middleweight titles from Pride.

Stop with this nonsense. The division is weak now, because all those guys are old lmao. Bisping is 37 years old and is the champion lmoa.

So what you are saying is Thales Leites, Travis Lutter, and Chael Sonnen are better the Romero, Jacare, and Rockhold. Got it
 
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So what you are saying is Thales Leites, Travis Lutter, and Chael Sonnen are better the Romero, Jacare, and Rockhold. Got it

Jacre is old now, Rockhold just lost to Bisping lmao and Weidman is really his only stand out win of his career and that's because Weidman beat an old anderson. he's not some uber fighter.

Anderson has the longest winning streak in UFC history and you peak 3 fights to compare to 3 older as fighters who are the best in the division by default. THE UFC has weak roster in very division, the talent pool isn't deep. Anderson is slower, if he was the same anderson he would beat all those guys.

Yoel Romero beat an old machida, and he beat an old jacre.
 

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Weidman didn't use wrestling to beat Anderson lmao
Sonnen had got destroyed in the second fight.
Anderson got old, his reflexes aren't the same, only reason he's still not the champ
Weidman ain't shyt, Rockhold has a glass joe, Bisping is the champ at 37 lmao
(1) Sonnen exposed all the BIG HOLES in Silva's game...

(2) Sonnen just wasn't strong enough...He took PEDs in the first fight...The second fight he was only good for one round...But a guy like Weidman beats Silva almost every time...

Prime Weidman vs Prime Silva, and Silva still loses...

(3) All these champs losing their belts show that match-ups are very significant in MMA...
 
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(1) Sonnen exposed all the BIG HOLES in Silva's game...

(2) Sonnen just wasn't strong enough...He took PEDs in the first fight...The second fight he was only good for one round...But a guy like Weidman beats Silva almost every time...

Prime Weidman vs Prime Silva, and Silva still loses...

(3) All these champs losing their belts show that match-ups are very significant in MMA...

What holes do he exposed, Anderson destroyed him in the second match.

Anderson lost to Weidman on his feet lmao, because he's reflex weren't the same. What does that have to do with Sonnen lmao.

Weidman is in his prime can't even hold the belt and lost to a guy with a glass jaw lmao.

He barely beat old ass machida lmao.

Weidman is basic, he does nothing special.

When Weidman and Rockhold are 36, they weren't be anywhere near the title like Anderson was lmao.
 

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Jacre is old now, Rockhold just lost to Bisping lmao and Weidman is really his only stand out win of his career and that's because Weidman beat an old anderson. he's not some uber fighter.

Anderson has the longest winning streak in UFC history and you peak 3 fights to compare to 3 older as fighters who are the best in the division by default. THE UFC has weak roster in very division, the talent pool isn't deep. Anderson is slower, if he was the same anderson he would beat all those guys.

Yoel Romero beat an old machida, and he beat an old jacre.

What does age have to do with anything? Silva was in his 30 when his run started. And I take nothing away from his long streak and dominance, but that division was ass. Fave nothing but stiffs and Grapplers. The fact the title is switching bascically reaffirms the stiffer competition at 185. Silva would have problems against Rockhold, Romero, etc. I mean he struggled against trash ass Sonnen
 
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What does age have to do with anything? Silva was in his 30 when his run started. And I take nothing away from his long streak and dominance, but that division was ass. Fave nothing but stiffs and Grapplers. The fact the title is switching bascically reaffirms the stiffer competition at 185. Silva would have problems against Rockhold, Romero, etc. I mean he struggled against trash ass Sonnen

30 isn't old 36 is. and that was the age Silva declined at as well.

Jacre is old, and when he was in his prime he wasn't fukking anderson silva lmao.

CHAEL SONNEN BEAT MICHAEL BISPING LMAO, and Rockhold JUST LOST TO HIM

So Sonnen is the same tier as any of those fighters you named, Leites fought Bising to a decision not to long ago lmao.
Grapplers cause anderson the most problems and he beat them all lmao.

Even know nobody is as good as on their feet as Anderson, he should've got the decision against Bisping.

His only mistake is fighting with his hands down, which he can't do aymore.

He destroyed Sonnen the second fight lmao, also you can't compare what fighters do against other fighters, you should know that by now.

Bisping got destroyed by Hendo and Anderson finished Hendo when Hendo was Pride champion and unified the belts.

if Bisping can knock out Rockhold so can Silva lmao.

Bisping was 37 years old and knock out Rockhold lmao, anderson never got stunted on by a fighter 6 years older than him.

By your logic since Rockhold beat Bisping the first time, bisping had no chance in this fight, we saw what happened lmaol.
 
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