UCF 174, under 100,000 buys?

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Type in MMA fighters over training
mma fighters have always overtrained because the sport requires it u were trying to argue the point there is a sudden emphasis now cuz of pressure of job security /frequency of shows which is :camby:


once again you don't train so I won't bother discussing why the UFC shouldn't have the same habits as boxing
:why: dude zuffa has been using the boxing/sports entertainment model for 13 years and have come up trumps shytty ppv # doesnt change the fact they bought the company for 2 mill and are now garnering millions through various means..
Jon Jones did less ppvs buy than Mayweather v.s. Gatti did lol, and this is before mayweather became a star

the best fighter they have can't even draw, that's why the want the fight with gus so bad, so all this countrymen can tune in, they even wanted the fight in sweden and hes the challenger
How does any of this refute the notion ufc has no stars and could eventually just be relevant internationally :beli:
 
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mma fighters have always overtrained because the sport requires it u were trying to argue the point there is a sudden emphasis now cuz of pressure of job security /frequency of shows which is :camby:


:why: dude zuffa has been using the boxing/sports entertainment model for 13 years and have come up trumps shytty ppv # doesnt change the fact they bought the company for 2 mill and are now garnering millions through various means..
How does any of this refute the notion ufc has no stars and could eventually just be relevant internationally :beli:

Only time will tell, but mark my words the UFC is not the future of MMA

you realize how much money they had to pour into the UFC before the start seeing profits, shyt can easily go south having these type of numbers
I hope you realize when companies expands so they do their bills

they will not stay in business too long having another year like this so far
 

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I know about the insurance thing, fighters fight with injuries all that time, Jon Jones still has the toe injury, he was even limping out of the cage his fight which he won easily, but a lot of fighters pull out of fights because they need more time and use that has an excuse, which is what I think happened with weidman when he knew he was fighting machida instead of belfort,

Facilities and trainers are at their best right now, but all that shyt doesn't really matter it' about how the partners interact with ech other

the injuries coming because guys are training too hard during the camp, you can't go all out it and expect not to get injured
you got top guys from all over coming in these gyms to train, because frankly quality sparring is slim, so it gets really competitive and guys go over bored

training camp is like 2 months for one fight, so 4 months out the year you are in training as high level, and most guys peak before they get to the cage, and it even though the calender the year has changed, a year's time has not passed before they go back into training, so they don't get enough rest, which is why a lot of guys use steroids

once again this is not boxing, where guys do get Knocked out in sparring, they don't have to worry having their knee blown out because somebody decided to take them down while working on stand up like overeem did

UFC model is boxing, and the sport is not boxing, so the same time tables do not apply and need to be changed

I've already made my points, anything else would be repeating myself.

Injuries are a part of the sport, always have and always will be. The UFC and it's fighters just need to do a better job mitigating the issue.

Half this post is you talking out of your ass.:russ:
 

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Jones is a champ but he doesn't draw much
Who ever said he did? :why: being the top draw doesnt automatically mean u draw much it just means u outdraw anyone in the company. Considering the lull ufc is in that isnt a great feat. Look at it this way everyone sucks but jones sucks the least
 
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I've already made my points, anything else would be repeating myself.

Injuries are a part of the sport, always have and always will be. The UFC and it's fighters just need to do a better job mitigating the issue.

Half this post is you talking out of your ass.:russ:

What do you actually do research on the topic before you speak
You don't even train so you don't understand

as far as everything else



Pride went from 90,000 people for an event to out of business five years later

UFC well not last another till end of this decade

Michael Page is their only hope for having a star
 

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What do you actually do research on the topic before you speak
You don't even train so you don't understand

as far as everything else



Pride went from 90,000 people for an event to out of business five years later

UFC well not last another till end of this decade

Michael Page is their only hope for having a star


Fighters pulling out so they can have have more time and use that as an excuse

And I'm the one that needs to research the topic. :mjlol:

Pride was extremely corrupt and had ties to the Yakuza. That's why they went out business. Looks like you're the one that needs to do their research fakkit.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/11/30/1846505/is-yakuza-related-corruption-killing-mma-in-japan
 
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And I'm the one that needs to research the topic. :mjlol:

Pride was extremely corrupt and had ties to the Yakuza. That's why they went out business. Looks like you're the one that needs to do their research fakkit.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/11/30/1846505/is-yakuza-related-corruption-killing-mma-in-japan

Research is copy and pasting shytty articles with no facts in them

how about you go a gym where pros actually train

meet promoters, talk to some guys, actually get involved in the sport

There are absolutely zero details about your article

It just says It was the Yakuza's fault!!!!!!!!!

Boxing has mafia ties?

The only thing the Yakuza blocked was Dana White getting a TV deal when zuffa brought pride

also in your article it says they had to borrow from yakuza because they couldn't get loans

pride was already in trouble for lack of stars
 

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There are absolutely zero details about your article

It just says It was the Yakuza's fault!!!!!!!!!

Boxing has mafia ties?

The only thing the Yakuza blocked was Dana White getting a TV deal when zuffa brought pride


pride was already in trouble for lack of stars

So we're supposed to believe you, but not major, established media outlets like Bloodly Elbow, and Fighter's Only Magazine.

The functional retard strikes again.
 
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So we're supposed to believe you, but not major, established media outlets like Bloodly Elbow, and Fighter's Only Magazine.

The functional retard strikes again.

The article doesn't state anything, other than pride having yakuza ties, alluding to them owing money

why you also get so butt hurt

it doesn't give any type of insight to anything

Believe me about what, everything I say is actually happening

UFC is in severe decline, this is not an opinion this is a fact

fighters over train, are under too much pressure in the UFC, there are current pros and ex UFC guys in the gym I train at
and many fighters are on record of saying this

Pride was already in financial trouble which is why they had to deal with the Yakuza in the first place

Dream folded because they had no star power, period, and that was basically pride restarted
 

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What do you actually do research on the topic before you speak
You don't even train so you don't understand

as far as everything else



Pride went from 90,000 people for an event to out of business five years later

UFC well not last another till end of this decade

Michael Page is their only hope for having a star
I dont know why you are so hell bent on reaffirming this point wwe was thought to be doa 10 years go with dwindling ppvs and jbl as its biggest star guess what? 10 years later its still pulling a mill buys for its most marketed event and they have an onle network. :russ: at you last comment though, if the original and a knock off with wrestling couldnt whats some british langelier with untested wrestling D going to do?
 
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I dont know why you are so hell bent on reaffirming this point wwe was thought to be doa 10 years go with dwindling ppvs and jbl as its biggest star guess what? 10 years later its still pulling a mill buys for its most marketed event and they have an onle network. :russ: at you last comment though, if the original and a knock off with wrestling couldnt whats some british langelier with untested wrestling D going to do?

Unless something drastic happens, they need another explosion on some silva shyt

they need Michael Page in the UFC putting on highlight reels, but even still I don't see it

the next generation fighters are gonna to be more business savvys, old fighters will be promoters themselves

I don't see UFC keeping the strangle hold
 

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It's common knowledge among major media outlets and even the fighters themselves that Pride went out of business because of ties to the Yakuza and corruption. But, according to Master Teacher, everybody else is wrong, he's right. The people who study/research and are apart of the sport are wrong, but Master Teacher is right.
 
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It's common knowledge among major media outlets and even the fighters themselves that Pride went out of business because of ties to the Yakuza and corruption. But, according to Master Teacher, everybody else is wrong, he's right. The people who are who study/research and are apart of the sport are wrong, but Master Teacher is right.

The article posted says they only went to the Yakuza because they couldn't get any loans from investors, because the ship was already sinking

tel me what did the Yakuza do?

Why didn't Dream succeed then, was that the Yakuza's fault too

Yakuza only prevented pride from being put back on Japanese TV after Zuffa brought them, because they don't want Dana white over there

this well after pride was a wrap

I put out like this, if Weidman Machida doesnt do 1 million buys, with Ronda on the card too they are in serious trouble
 
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