UCF 174, under 100,000 buys?

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Injuries are always (to some extent) going to a problem in MMA. This has more to do with the nature of the sport, rather than 'slave conditions'. Training MMA on consistent basis takes a huge toll on one's body.

Injuries are apart of every sport, but its far too common in the UFC as it should be for the very reasons I stated
in the past injuries weren't as often, it has become a epidemic now, fighter's are under to much pressure to win, that's why a lot of fights
aren't that good as well, because they're fighting not to lose instead of trying to win
they push themselves in training camp way too hard, etc
 

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I agree, regardless of what organization is on top MMA will never die.

I do however find this extremely funny due to the mma dudebros always saying that "boxing is dead/dying". :sas1:

Those MMA guys are idiots, same with the boxing fans who constantly talk down on MMA.
Mean while we doing half a milli out here from dudes who aren't even the top draws, that ain't none of my business though. :sas2:

That's good for you.
 
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Those MMA guys are idiots, same with the boxing fans who constantly talk down on MMA.


That's good for you.


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fighters can't stay healthy when working under slave conditions

a lot of injuries happen because of over training due to the pressure of being cut because of a lost
and also the frequency of fights
:why: what pressure are dominick cruz or anthony pettis under? are they close to being cut? the average fighter fights 3 times a year and thats even, cuz for most its twice, of course you will get your donald cerrone types that are mercenaries waiting to step in but those dudes arent the norm. So your statement is a head scratcher, dudes are getting injured cuz u cant half ass training in mma and expect to be match ready. Just because there is an event everday doesnt mean fighters are fighting at a greater frequency
 
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they wont die, there still the best mma organization out there by far

there going through a transitional period after losing silva/gsp

when a woman is your top draw you know your in trouble, they need stars but i dont see those personalities right now
I never knew jones was female, ronda might be the face but the top draw is jones
 

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UFC will be dead in 4-5 years
fear mongering aside i am surprised its taken this long to bottom out in the ppv category. I dont believe ufc will be dead in x amount of years, that they'll stop expanding or that they'll even stop ppvs but i do believe they'll be an international product with little relevance in the states (very much like formula one). They have a slew of sponsors, diehard fans and are swimming in money but domestically? :camby:
 

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Injuries are apart of every sport, but its far too common in the UFC as it should be for the very reasons I stated
in the past injuries weren't as often, it has become a epidemic now, fighter's are under to much pressure to win, that's why a lot of fights
aren't that good as well, because they're fighting not to lose instead of trying to win
they push themselves in training camp way too hard, etc

If you've been following the sport, MMA (the UFC in this case) has always [to some extent] had problems with injuries. Back then, fighters were more willing to go into a bout injured, but with the introduction of the UFC's insurance coverage, fighters are now more willing to pull out of a fight. Before the fighter insurance, if you sustained an injury during training camp, the medical cost would come out of your own pocket. So if fighters pulled out a fight due to injury, not only would they miss a pay cheque, they would have to pay for their own medical expenses. That isn't the case now (since mid 2011). It isn't a coincidence that when this policy was introduced (in the UFC), fighters were pulling out due to injuries at an all time high.

Injuries are far more prevalent in MMA than any other major sport. Think about it, for 5 days a week, you are getting kicked, punched, taken down, put into various locks/chokes, etc. Injuries are going to happen. Now when fighters have better trainers/facilities you will see these injuries decrease, but [to some degree] they will always be there.
 
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:why: what pressure are dominick cruz or anthony pettis under? are they close to being cut? the average fighter fights 3 times a year and thats even, cuz for most its twice, of course you will get your donald cerrone types that are mercenaries waiting to step in but those dudes arent the norm. So your statement is a head scratcher, dudes are getting injured cuz u cant half ass training in mma and expect to be match ready. Just because there is an event everday doesnt mean fighters are fighting at a greater frequency

Once again I'm talking the totality of the sport not isolated incidents
also every fighter is under pressure the bigger you are ask jon jones, it' even more pressure
for the company, he jut wanted an extra month, and they wouldnt give it to him

Once again twice a year is cool, but you have have to factor in the training camps inbetween those dates

in the beginning UFC was a tourament, and it should have stayed that way

this isn't boxing, but dana white's entire model is based off the boxing promotion, and that why it's not working
 
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If you've been following the sport, MMA (the UFC in this case) has always [to some extent] had problems with injuries. Back then, fighters were more willing to go into a bout injured, but with the introduction of the UFC's insurance coverage, fighters are now more willing to pull out of a fight. Before the fighter insurance, if you sustained an injury during training camp, the medical cost would come out of your own pocket. So if fighters pulled out a fight due to injury, not only would they miss a pay cheque, they would have to pay for their own medical expenses. That isn't the case now (since mid 2011). It isn't a coincidence that when this policy was introduced (in the UFC), fighters were pulling out due to injuries at an all time high.

Injuries are far more prevalent in MMA than any other major sport. Think about it, for 5 days a week, you are getting kicked, punched, taken down, put into various locks/chokes, etc. Injuries are going to happen. Now when fighters have better trainers/facilities you will see these injuries decrease, but [to some degree] they will always be there.

I know about the insurance thing, fighters fight with injuries all that time, Jon Jones still has the toe injury, he was even limping out of the cage his fight which he won easily, but a lot of fighters pull out of fights because they need more time and use that has an excuse, which is what I think happened with weidman when he knew he was fighting machida instead of belfort,

Facilities and trainers are at their best right now, but all that shyt doesn't really matter it' about how the partners interact with ech other

the injuries coming because guys are training too hard during the camp, you can't go all out it and expect not to get injured
you got top guys from all over coming in these gyms to train, because frankly quality sparring is slim, so it gets really competitive and guys go over bored

training camp is like 2 months for one fight, so 4 months out the year you are in training as high level, and most guys peak before they get to the cage, and it even though the calender the year has changed, a year's time has not passed before they go back into training, so they don't get enough rest, which is why a lot of guys use steroids

once again this is not boxing, where guys do get Knocked out in sparring, they don't have to worry having their knee blown out because somebody decided to take them down while working on stand up like overeem did

UFC model is boxing, and the sport is not boxing, so the same time tables do not apply and need to be changed
 

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Once again I'm talking the totality of the sport not isolated incidents
Dude you tried to say because there are alot of events dudes are "overtraining" which isnt the case
Once again twice a year is cool, but you have have to factor in the training camps inbetween those dates
What of it? thats the nature of the beast thats what the sports is about :why:
in the beginning UFC was a tourament, and it should have stayed that way
silly statement on many levels which i wont entertain
this isn't boxing, but dana white's entire model is based off the boxing promotion, and that why it's not working
For them to be building new offices around the world something must be working :mjpls: buy rates are sinking because the product isnt in demand, reasons for that range from the fact it isnt as underground and cool to follow anymore, 0 stars? the evolution of point fighters? who knows
 
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Dude you tried to say because there are alot of events dudes are "overtraining" which isnt the case
What of it? thats the nature of the beast thats what the sports is about :why:
silly statement on many levels which i wont entertain
For them to be building new offices around the world something must be working :mjpls: buy rates are sinking because the product isnt in demand, reasons for that range from the fact it isnt as underground and cool to follow anymore, 0 stars? the evolution of point fighters? who knows

Type in MMA fighters over training in google and you will see it has been a problem for a while and Dana White has even addressed it
asking the guys to tone it down but how can he expect them when he runs such a type shyt

UFC is falling apart

once again you don't train so I won't bother discussing why the UFC shouldn't have the same habits as boxing

Jon Jones did less ppvs buy than Mayweather v.s. Gatti did lol, and this is before mayweather became a star

the best fighter they have can't even draw, that's why the want the fight with gus so bad, so all this countrymen can tune in, they even wanted the fight in sweden and hes the challenger
 
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