U.S. deficit and Federal Reserve not brought up?

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A) It's got nothing to do with big profits, we're in a global economy. A lot of US industries would have been wiped out by Asian competition, even with the ridiculous tariffs we already charge, if we didn't move factories over there to even the playing field.

B) If you drop the taxes, you even the playing field significantly. A lot of these foreign companies are getting huge tax breaks on top of being subsidized. But without US investment and know-how being sent over there, they would have a hard time continuing their dominance. It's not just the cheap labor, you gotta grease the local political bosses, send mangement overseas, it's a headache man, it's not as much profit as you think. But American's don't wanna work for sh*t, and for any little punkazz reason they throw a hissy fit and go on strike. I've never notice how f*ckin' entitled Americans act until I went to Asia and see them nikkaz dedicatin' their heart, blood, and soul to their company's success :obama:. But, for a big tax break, as a businessman myself, I'm telling you most of these companies would bring the jobs back home.

C) The next big is not green energy B. All it will take is stabilization in the Middle East, oil will drop by $20-30 per barrel, and all the interest in green energy would be gone. And if green energy was cheaper than coal or natural gas, it would have been done a long time ago. They went nuclear before they went green, that should tell you about the cost benefit of going green. Most of the recent innovations have been internet based, and most of it is coming from the US with the likes of Facebook, Instagram, Tumblr, Myspace, etc...You realize we issue H1B visas because we can't find enough qualified people in the US? And the ones we do find want 10 times their real market value. We have a shortage of doctors, a shortage of engineering innovation. Our engineering and medical schools are being overran by foreigners. At my graduation in engineering school over 80% were Asian, and over 50% foreign born. It's a damn shame.
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But American's don't wanna work for sh*t, and for any little punkazz reason they throw a hissy fit and go on strike. I've never notice how f*ckin' entitled Americans act until I went to Asia and see them nikkaz dedicatin' their heart, blood, and soul to their company's success

hey dumb worker. YOu're supposed to feel entitled. Your ancestors did things so you wouldnt have to. my ancestors were slaves, so i dont owe yall NOTHING. you actually OWE ME 40acres and a mule. but thats another story.

the problem with middle class/poor class americans is that for some stupid reason we are okay with the RICH feeling entitled, but its wrong for us workers to feel entitled. how DUMB is that thinking?

You want me to make you millions. pay me a good wage and give me the tools to succeed. DO NOT ask me to slave for you while you rack up all the doe.
naw it aint going like that anymore. we've done the civil rights movements, we've done the workers rights movements for a reason.

you're one of those idiots that think "well if i just let them corporations do what they do. they'll pay me a good wage." NO dummy no they wont. they will low ball you as much as you are willing to take before you say i quit. there's a reason unions were created. there's a reason OSHA was created etc, etc. people in non union jobs have benefit from what unions stand for. and no i dont think 100% of everything unions do is a good thing. there's shady people in every walk of life. but what we do know is you cant trust a business owner to be 100% honest when it comes to him having to deice on making hand over fist profits vs paying his workers properly and giving them proper benefits. see this is the problem with the repub way of thinking and then pulling that moral card. well in the bible it says we're all sinners. it also says we have a thing for sinning, so we have to die to it daily. meaning its virtually uncontrollable. we are learning how to control said sins everyday thru Christ. but until we have it under wraps the sin will prevail.

what am i talking about? i'm talking about the sin of GREED. I'm naturally greedy. therefore when i have to choose between doing the right thing or taking the greedy approach. i'm going to go with greedy more times then not. its natural. it says so in the good book. thats why you need extra regulation(UNIONS,etc) to keep ME the business owner from crapping all over the worker. YES there will be some workers abusing the system. just like we see TONS of business owners, ceos etc abusing the hell out of the system themselves.

LOL at i shouldnt feel entitled while donald trump feels entitled. stop being so STUPID america. this is YOUR country too. feel entitled, your ancestors died for you to have a better life. dont stop fighting for it now.
 

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:aicmon: you are not running big rigs on solar power my dude. It's cool for your artsy b*tchass little cars, but it's not there yet, and most of the small cars are hybrids my G. They got mad oil in Alaska, but we ain't drillin' :manny:

we know right now they cant run hybrid big rigs. i named big rigs for a reason. dude its been 40 something years. since the first electric car. are we that dumb of a scientific community and all this money we have floating around america when things were going good. that we couldnt do enough R&D. to find cheaper cells for commercial vehicles. as well as find ways to cut down the gas consumption of big rigs to the point where we can one day have an electric ran big rig? we're not talking about tech that came out in the early 00's, or late 90's, or the 80's. it was the 70's.

again there are big oil companies that literally get on other energy boards to try to vote down measures that would help the other energies. they dont want to change a thing because its working just fine for exxon, mobile.

if you're holding down R&D and production of said product. of course it will advance at a snails pace.
 

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the rest of your post is irrelevant after this statement

hey dumb worker. YOu're supposed to feel entitled. Your ancestors did things so you wouldnt have to. my ancestors were slaves, so i dont owe yall NOTHING. you actually OWE ME 40acres and a mule. but thats another story.

the problem with middle class/poor class americans is that for some stupid reason we are okay with the RICH feeling entitled, but its wrong for us workers to feel entitled. how DUMB is that thinking?

You want me to make you millions. pay me a good wage and give me the tools to succeed. DO NOT ask me to slave for you while you rack up all the doe.
naw it aint going like that anymore. we've done the civil rights movements, we've done the workers rights movements for a reason.

you're one of those idiots that think "well if i just let them corporations do what they do. they'll pay me a good wage." NO dummy no they wont. they will low ball you as much as you are willing to take before you say i quit. there's a reason unions were created. there's a reason OSHA was created etc, etc. people in non union jobs have benefit from what unions stand for. and no i dont think 100% of everything unions do is a good thing. there's shady people in every walk of life. but what we do know is you cant trust a business owner to be 100% honest when it comes to him having to deice on making hand over fist profits vs paying his workers properly and giving them proper benefits. see this is the problem with the repub way of thinking and then pulling that moral card. well in the bible it says we're all sinners. it also says we have a thing for sinning, so we have to die to it daily. meaning its virtually uncontrollable. we are learning how to control said sins everyday thru Christ. but until we have it under wraps the sin will prevail.

what am i talking about? i'm talking about the sin of GREED. I'm naturally greedy. therefore when i have to choose between doing the right thing or taking the greedy approach. i'm going to go with greedy more times then not. its natural. it says so in the good book. thats why you need extra regulation(UNIONS,etc) to keep ME the business owner from crapping all over the worker. YES there will be some workers abusing the system. just like we see TONS of business owners, ceos etc abusing the hell out of the system themselves.

LOL at i shouldnt feel entitled while donald trump feels entitled. stop being so STUPID america. this is YOUR country too. feel entitled, your ancestors died for you to have a better life. dont stop fighting for it now.
You dont like a job, you get your skills and experience up and move to a better one

Nobody owes you anything bruh
 

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You dont like a job, you get your skills and experience up and move to a better one

Nobody owes you anything bruh

and how can i get my skills up if they are over charging for training? have you seen the prices go up for college? how's about the price hikes in other training for certificates.

then once i get said training you wont hire me because you are looking for someone that has 5 years+ experience in the field. now how on earth could that be possible. if i was working in the steel mills for 15 years living a decent life. now you're saying i need to be a bio-tech. i take the classes. start looking for work. "sorry sir/mam, you have good training but we need someone with experience." i cant get experience for 5 years without someone hiring me.

so you will say but but but you can intern. interning unpaid is for college kids. not for a grownup that has a family, home, etc already. i cant afford to intern at 40 yrs of age with a kid in college, and another kid about to graduate in a few years. and i darn sure dont have the savings to intern for 5 years to get the experience. lol at that.
so how will i get hired in said field? this is the magic question no one can answer. and this is one of the biggest reasons people are still out of work today.

people are blowing 30 grand going to get the training you speak of, then getting out with another piece of paper and being told "sorry i needed 5 years of exp." the problem with that coming from that company is if you look at the wage they were trying to pay this person they wanted with 5 yrs of exp. wasnt even the correct amt you should pay someone with that kind of exp. So even if i had that amt of experience the are trying to low ball me like crazy. i should be making 75k, but they are saying how's 62 looking to you. uhh that looks like crap. i have 5 yrs of exp and the credentials. i spent way to much in education to get low balled. i will never get out of debt at this rate.

do you not see the problem here?

so sorry YES i am entitled to make what i deserve to make if i had 5 yrs exp. i am also entitled to get entry level on the job training if i have the proper pre-reqs(credentials) to enter the job field.
 

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Are we talking about the moral deficit in the US?
 

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and how can i get my skills up if they are over charging for training? have you seen the prices go up for college? how's about the price hikes in other training for certificates.

then once i get said training you wont hire me because you are looking for someone that has 5 years+ experience in the field. now how on earth could that be possible. if i was working in the steel mills for 15 years living a decent life. now you're saying i need to be a bio-tech. i take the classes. start looking for work. "sorry sir/mam, you have good training but we need someone with experience." i cant get experience for 5 years without someone hiring me.

so you will say but but but you can intern. interning unpaid is for college kids. not for a grownup that has a family, home, etc already. i cant afford to intern at 40 yrs of age with a kid in college, and another kid about to graduate in a few years. and i darn sure dont have the savings to intern for 5 years to get the experience. lol at that.
so how will i get hired in said field? this is the magic question no one can answer. and this is one of the biggest reasons people are still out of work today.

people are blowing 30 grand going to get the training you speak of, then getting out with another piece of paper and being told "sorry i needed 5 years of exp." the problem with that coming from that company is if you look at the wage they were trying to pay this person they wanted with 5 yrs of exp. wasnt even the correct amt you should pay someone with that kind of exp. So even if i had that amt of experience the are trying to low ball me like crazy. i should be making 75k, but they are saying how's 62 looking to you. uhh that looks like crap. i have 5 yrs of exp and the credentials. i spent way to much in education to get low balled. i will never get out of debt at this rate.

do you not see the problem here?

so sorry YES i am entitled to make what i deserve to make if i had 5 yrs exp. i am also entitled to get entry level on the job training if i have the proper pre-reqs(credentials) to enter the job field.
You are putting a lot of words in my mouth...

Never said training wasn't overpriced (though there are things you can do to mitigate that)... never said it was a guarantee... never said there aren't a lot of people who got fukked over in the transitions that happened over the last couple of decades....

But the world changes at an accelerating pace... ultimately if you want to succeed you have to change with it

Staying at a company for 15 years, let alone a position, in this day and age, is unheard of. Its unfortunate but you have to scramble. And a lot of jobs do offer on the job training... but just having qualifications isn't enough when you and the other 20 people applying for the job are all equally qualified

Its not easy... but life isnt easy... and its not the govt's job to make it easy. Just fair.
 

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the rest of your post is irrelevant after this statement

hey dumb worker. YOu're supposed to feel entitled. Your ancestors did things so you wouldnt have to. my ancestors were slaves, so i dont owe yall NOTHING. you actually OWE ME 40acres and a mule. but thats another story.

the problem with middle class/poor class americans is that for some stupid reason we are okay with the RICH feeling entitled, but its wrong for us workers to feel entitled. how DUMB is that thinking?

You want me to make you millions. pay me a good wage and give me the tools to succeed. DO NOT ask me to slave for you while you rack up all the doe.
naw it aint going like that anymore. we've done the civil rights movements, we've done the workers rights movements for a reason.

you're one of those idiots that think "well if i just let them corporations do what they do. they'll pay me a good wage." NO dummy no they wont. they will low ball you as much as you are willing to take before you say i quit. there's a reason unions were created. there's a reason OSHA was created etc, etc. people in non union jobs have benefit from what unions stand for. and no i dont think 100% of everything unions do is a good thing. there's shady people in every walk of life. but what we do know is you cant trust a business owner to be 100% honest when it comes to him having to deice on making hand over fist profits vs paying his workers properly and giving them proper benefits. see this is the problem with the repub way of thinking and then pulling that moral card. well in the bible it says we're all sinners. it also says we have a thing for sinning, so we have to die to it daily. meaning its virtually uncontrollable. we are learning how to control said sins everyday thru Christ. but until we have it under wraps the sin will prevail.

what am i talking about? i'm talking about the sin of GREED. I'm naturally greedy. therefore when i have to choose between doing the right thing or taking the greedy approach. i'm going to go with greedy more times then not. its natural. it says so in the good book. thats why you need extra regulation(UNIONS,etc) to keep ME the business owner from crapping all over the worker. YES there will be some workers abusing the system. just like we see TONS of business owners, ceos etc abusing the hell out of the system themselves.

LOL at i shouldnt feel entitled while donald trump feels entitled. stop being so STUPID america. this is YOUR country too. feel entitled, your ancestors died for you to have a better life. dont stop fighting for it now.

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Don't take out your frustrations on me homey, I'm spittin' that reality. And yeah you right, you don't owe me, but I don't owe you either nikka :pacspit: I can deal with Jose or Raji or Thao for a quarter of the price and 0% of the attitude, and double the production, because they give a f*ck :win: Donald Trump doesn't feel entitled, he's bustin' his ass meetin' investors, TV shows, real estate projects, Ms. Universe, etc. I may not respect Trump, but I respect the hustle. I don't want you to make me sh*t. I make my own goddamn millions. I just expect you to do your job. If you can't do it, I'll find someone who can, and until you and American workers realize this, it will be difficult to bring jobs back. Entitled does not mean worker's rights, nobody deserves to get abused, but when the truck needs to be unloaded and the f*ckin' workers go on break, when the weekly report needs to get done and workers go home for the weekend, what can the owner do except go :mindblown: (all from personal experience), move his sh*t to a foreign land with hotter b*tches and forget this bullsh*t. F*ck overseas, right here, mexicans will get hired over blacks for labor (at same wage), asians beating other races to get hired at skill positions. Why? because them nikkaz work Americans look at real work and go :scusthov: ! So take you and your union to the unemployment, y'all can picket over there and hope some foreign owned company scoops y'all up for the low just so he can fill his quota of bumazz american workers so that he gets his permit to open up shop in USA and :eat:
 

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Don't take out your frustrations on me homey, I'm spittin' that reality. And yeah you right, you don't owe me, but I don't owe you either nikka :pacspit: I can deal with Jose or Raji or Thao for a quarter of the price and 0% of the attitude, and double the production, because they give a f*ck :win: Donald Trump doesn't feel entitled, he's bustin' his ass meetin' investors, TV shows, real estate projects, Ms. Universe, etc. I may not respect Trump, but I respect the hustle. I don't want you to make me sh*t. I make my own goddamn millions. I just expect you to do your job. If you can't do it, I'll find someone who can, and until you and American workers realize this, it will be difficult to bring jobs back. Entitled does not mean worker's rights, nobody deserves to get abused, but when the truck needs to be unloaded and the f*ckin' workers go on break, when the weekly report needs to get done and workers go home for the weekend, what can the owner do except go :mindblown: (all from personal experience), move his sh*t to a foreign land with hotter b*tches and forget this bullsh*t. F*ck overseas, right here, mexicans will get hired over blacks for labor (at same wage), asians beating other races to get hired at skill positions. Why? because them nikkaz work Americans look at real work and go :scusthov: ! So take you and your union to the unemployment, y'all can picket over there and hope some foreign owned company scoops y'all up for the low just so he can fill his quota of bumazz american workers so that he gets his permit to open up shop in USA and :eat:
lol. if you only knew. rich people that have been rich for years do feel entitled. thats how and why they stay rich. Romney because he's a ceo, and the rest of the ceo's with him Feel they are entitled to more government welfare(subsidies that they no longer need, tax break after tax break.) if you call any company out for using every loop hole in the book, to not pay any taxes. they will cry foul. and say but but but i deserve those breaks because X, Y, and Z.
So why cant I say the same? you think i aint bustin my .... trying to make it happen. but the difference is. i cant file for multiple bankruptcies and play with cash like that. i'm a little guy. i got to go thru all kinds of hell if i want to file BR. and my life will be hell afterwards for years. not so with D. trump. and i aint even mad at the boy. i'm mad at the rest of us workers that are to stupid to realize we DESERVE. are entitled TO. just as much as he is. THINK that, then you will start acting like it. stop voting people in office that dont care about you and yours. stop riding with people that only ride for the top 1%, just because you're dreaming of being a top 1% one day. when the stats show. odds of that happening for you are beyond slim. because that top 1% is trying to lock other people out of the club. the game aint fair for even white folks anymore. it was never fair for a black person. but now its not even fair for a whiteman that isnt already born into wealth or have wealthy friends/family. Do i have to do like these broads that sit around looking cute at these sporting events waiting on a rich athlete to scoop them up and marry them?

i mean do i need to start going to the rich chick conventions to catch me a rich white lady, get married and take half? or just hang around to live the good life. lol. i mean thats how cold this game is nowadays.

Did you not hear obeezy talking about making college affordable. do you not understand even his half white self. had student loans and grants, etc. but school was still affordable for him and his generation. (michelle included).

if they were priced out of education and training. what would've happened to them? they would still be hard workers. but they would not be strolling thru the white house in house shoes every night. i bet you that. they would be slaving making barely enough to get by, there wouldnt be a sasha and melia because they wouldnt be able to afford both youngins.

the 1% is taking aways people's bootstraps. its beyond "just work hard and you can achieve the dream too." they are rigging the game. if you cant see that. you're lost and i hope for your sake you're already bringing in 6 figs today. cause no telling what tomorrow is going to bring. and you better make sure you live within your means the way this baby is going.
 

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You are putting a lot of words in my mouth...

Never said training wasn't overpriced (though there are things you can do to mitigate that)... never said it was a guarantee... never said there aren't a lot of people who got fukked over in the transitions that happened over the last couple of decades....

But the world changes at an accelerating pace... ultimately if you want to succeed you have to change with it

Staying at a company for 15 years, let alone a position, in this day and age, is unheard of. Its unfortunate but you have to scramble. And a lot of jobs do offer on the job training... but just having qualifications isn't enough when you and the other 20 people applying for the job are all equally qualified

Its not easy... but life isnt easy... and its not the govt's job to make it easy. Just fair.
you aint telling me a thing. i gave you an example of someone who was flexible enough to get new training. did everything they could to transition and then they get hit with the death blow" sorry sir i need 5 yrs of exp." when they are paying the salary of a entry level person. what part of the game is that?


so not only can you the transition guy not get in at all. the guy with the experience is about to get low balled and have his pay chopped.
 

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Tell me some of these levels.

:dwillhuh: lets start with the United States public debt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


At the end of September 2012, debt held by the public was approximately $11.311 trillion or about 72% of GDP. Intra-governmental holdings stood at $4.848 trillion, giving a combined total public debt of $16.159 trillion[4][5][6] As of July 2012, $5.3 trillion or approximately 48% of the debt held by the public was owned by foreign investors, the largest of which were China and Japan at just over $1.1 trillion each.[7]

On August 2, 2011, President Barack Obama signed into law the Budget Control Act of 2011, averting a possible financial default. During June 2011, the Congressional Budget Office called for "...large and rapid policy changes to put the nation on a sustainable fiscal course."[8]



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lol. if you only knew. rich people that have been rich for years do feel entitled. thats how and why they stay rich. Romney because he's a ceo, and the rest of the ceo's with him Feel they are entitled to more government welfare(subsidies that they no longer need, tax break after tax break.) if you call any company out for using every loop hole in the book, to not pay any taxes. they will cry foul. and say but but but i deserve those breaks because X, Y, and Z.
So why cant I say the same? you think i aint bustin my .... trying to make it happen. but the difference is. i cant file for multiple bankruptcies and play with cash like that. i'm a little guy. i got to go thru all kinds of hell if i want to file BR. and my life will be hell afterwards for years. not so with D. trump. and i aint even mad at the boy. i'm mad at the rest of us workers that are to stupid to realize we DESERVE. are entitled TO. just as much as he is. THINK that, then you will start acting like it. stop voting people in office that dont care about you and yours. stop riding with people that only ride for the top 1%, just because you're dreaming of being a top 1% one day. when the stats show. odds of that happening for you are beyond slim. because that top 1% is trying to lock other people out of the club. the game aint fair for even white folks anymore. it was never fair for a black person. but now its not even fair for a whiteman that isnt already born into wealth or have wealthy friends/family. Do i have to do like these broads that sit around looking cute at these sporting events waiting on a rich athlete to scoop them up and marry them?

i mean do i need to start going to the rich chick conventions to catch me a rich white lady, get married and take half? or just hang around to live the good life. lol. i mean thats how cold this game is nowadays.

Did you not hear obeezy talking about making college affordable. do you not understand even his half white self. had student loans and grants, etc. but school was still affordable for him and his generation. (michelle included).

if they were priced out of education and training. what would've happened to them? they would still be hard workers. but they would not be strolling thru the white house in house shoes every night. i bet you that. they would be slaving making barely enough to get by, there wouldnt be a sasha and melia because they wouldnt be able to afford both youngins.

the 1% is taking aways people's bootstraps. its beyond "just work hard and you can achieve the dream too." they are rigging the game. if you cant see that. you're lost and i hope for your sake you're already bringing in 6 figs today. cause no telling what tomorrow is going to bring. and you better make sure you live within your means the way this baby is going.

This is America, you gotta get it how you live, even if that means f*ckin' 40 year old divorced businesswoman :shaq: (which is not such a bad way to make money :obama:) Ain't nobody stoppin you from openin' a company and moving your assets there :manny: You assume rich people feel entitled, I know American workers feel entitled because I see them slackin' off all day. I ride for my people, and you know what I get in return? Stolen equipment, unfilled reports, inaccurate inventory, and delays in my small business' production. Said f*ck it and hired latino immigrant labor at the same wages, no problems since. The 1% ain't takin' sh*t away from you, actually, they don't give a f*ck about you. People sittin' around with this defeatist attitude. People complain about Walmart taking away the small corner store, but Latinos, Arabs, and Asians stay openin' up convenience stores with no problems. Indians stay puttin' in work in them Subways and hotels. Do we as black folk have it hard? Yes. But why can't we be like them Nigerians and Jamaicans? Instead we on some b*tch victim sh*t half the time, this attitude needs to change in order for the hood to change.
 

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:dwillhuh: lets start with the United States public debt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


At the end of September 2012, debt held by the public was approximately $11.311 trillion or about 72% of GDP. Intra-governmental holdings stood at $4.848 trillion, giving a combined total public debt of $16.159 trillion[4][5][6] As of July 2012, $5.3 trillion or approximately 48% of the debt held by the public was owned by foreign investors, the largest of which were China and Japan at just over $1.1 trillion each.[7]

On August 2, 2011, President Barack Obama signed into law the Budget Control Act of 2011, averting a possible financial default. During June 2011, the Congressional Budget Office called for "...large and rapid policy changes to put the nation on a sustainable fiscal course."[8]



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So what would you do about the debt?
 

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So what would you do about the debt?


that's a complex question with many dimensions to it.

itd be better as a topic for a podcast, but ill lay out the basics here.

-completely reform the central banking system. id make the fed a public entity subject to real congressional oversight.

but this gets tricky because we supposedly have congressional oversight now. but as we see the key to success is not the law itself but rather the enforcement of the law, and regulations do no good without people in place to enforce them.

and ill use this theme throughout my post, the fact that structurally our economy is fine, but the character of the people in charge of the mechanisms of government is what needs to change.

our economy is a mechanical system void of positive or negative qualities, its the people running the economy who create the inequality and instability within the system.

so yes, we will be able to change some things structurally, but what will that matter if we have the same corrupt and incompetent people in charge?

so we need to put systems in place that address accountability as well. if i had complete autonomy i would utilize the power of the masses to leverage compliance from politicians so that if politicians were not doing their jobs they would be held accountable by losing their office, immediately.

nothing trumps the power of the people so if we say they gotta go, then they gotta go, and we dont need to wait until elections to pull people out of office and replace them. the government works for the people, so just like any other organization when the boss says youre fired, youre fired.

ideally you want righteous people in government who possess the proper combination of knowledge, wisdom, and character, and who do the right things for the right reasons without being coerced. but right now we're long on knowledge, but short on wisdom.

so again this is a complex discussion. we can either 1) keep the same politicians in office but put real systems in place that will hold them accountable, or 2) put people with higher character in office.

i support the second option, but in reality either option is going to take a huge effort, both in educating the masses and organizing the masses.

some other policy-based solutions would be:

-eliminate the financial incentive for corporations to take manufacturing overseas, and provide financial incentive for corporations to manufacture within the united states. and also provide incentives for people and corporations to purchase the goods created within the united states. this will help get our deficit back into the positives, which is part of the long term solution for dissolving the debt
-cut military spending by about 70%
-balance how much taxes people/organizations pay by having it go by income
-invest heavily in sustainable energy solutions... tesla had the free energy models back in the 20s we gotta get back on that

these are just some of the basics for the immediate... we can also dig deeper into the long-term solutions that deal with:

-reforming public education, including higher education
-investing in more efficient public trans
-we also gotta clean up the food service industry in the US... farming and food production can create a huge number of jobs and an enormous amount of economic stimulus, and right now the whole american food industry is being completely mismanaged

but regardless of the solution i cant say enough how important regulation and accountability are, especially in the financial sector. when we get responsible leadership in these areas we're good, but until then no solution will work without militant regulation and accountability.

if you can accept this then lets dig deeper and go from generalizations to specifics.





or if you wanna take the word of an MIT/Harvard economist we can just pump 40 billion into the economy every month until the wealth trickles down to the people through the banking system... shalom :ld:
 

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that's a complex question with many dimensions to it.

itd be better as a topic for a podcast, but ill lay out the basics here.

-completely reform the central banking system. id make the fed a public entity subject to real congressional oversight.

but this gets tricky because we supposedly have congressional oversight now. but as we see the key to success is not the law itself but rather the enforcement of the law, and regulations do no good without people in place to enforce them.

and ill use this theme throughout my post, the fact that structurally our economy is fine, but the character of the people in charge of the mechanisms of government is what needs to change.

our economy is a mechanical system void of positive or negative qualities, its the people running the economy who create the inequality and instability within the system.

so yes, we will be able to change some things structurally, but what will that matter if we have the same corrupt and incompetent people in charge?

so we need to put systems in place that address accountability as well. if i had complete autonomy i would utilize the power of the masses to leverage compliance from politicians so that if politicians were not doing their jobs they would be held accountable by losing their office, immediately.

nothing trumps the power of the people so if we say they gotta go, then they gotta go, and we dont need to wait until elections to pull people out of office and replace them. the government works for the people, so just like any other organization when the boss says youre fired, youre fired.

ideally you want righteous people in government who possess the proper combination of knowledge, wisdom, and character, and who do the right things for the right reasons without being coerced. but right now we're long on knowledge, but short on wisdom.

so again this is a complex discussion. we can either 1) keep the same politicians in office but put real systems in place that will hold them accountable, or 2) put people with higher character in office.

i support the second option, but in reality either option is going to take a huge effort, both in educating the masses and organizing the masses.

some other policy-based solutions would be:

-eliminate the financial incentive for corporations to take manufacturing overseas, and provide financial incentive for corporations to manufacture within the united states. and also provide incentives for people and corporations to purchase the goods created within the united states. this will help get our deficit back into the positives, which is part of the long term solution for dissolving the debt
-cut military spending by about 70%
-balance how much taxes people/organizations pay by having it go by income
-invest heavily in sustainable energy solutions... tesla had the free energy models back in the 20s we gotta get back on that

these are just some of the basics for the immediate... we can also dig deeper into the long-term solutions that deal with:

-reforming public education, including higher education
-investing in more efficient public trans
-we also gotta clean up the food service industry in the US... farming and food production can create a huge number of jobs and an enormous amount of economic stimulus, and right now the whole american food industry is being completely mismanaged

but regardless of the solution i cant say enough how important regulation and accountability are, especially in the financial sector. when we get responsible leadership in these areas we're good, but until then no solution will work without militant regulation and accountability.

if you can accept this then lets dig deeper and go from generalizations to specifics.





or if you wanna take the word of an MIT/Harvard economist we can just pump 40 billion into the economy every month until the wealth trickles down to the people through the banking system... shalom :ld:

Edit: Never mind...will respond later.
 
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