U.S. deficit and Federal Reserve not brought up?

[rapbeats]

Nothing that REALLY matters is ever discussed.

- What will USA do about the Euro?
- What will USA do about states on the edge of bankruptcy?
- What will USA do about 8%+ unemployment?
- What will USA do about border security?
- What will USA do about the looming student loan bubble?
- What has USA done to fix the home lending crisis, and save homeowners, and how can they improve it?
- What is USA doing to fix Medicaid so it isn't a billion dollar quagmire rampant with fraud?
- What about all our soldiers returning home, how will we reintegrate them into society?

Bread and circuses people, bread and circuses.

actually the one about the soldiers coming home. didnt obeezy already put something out there for them to atleast be able to get in the front of the line for jobs? hey, thats more then i've seen done in the past for soldiers. just saying.

states on the edge of bankruptcy has to do with the economy as a whole. we tighten that up and that will fix itself. same with unemployment.

obeezy's big idea is to push green energies. your repubs aint having it. and neither are the old guard and old energy companies. they literally spend tons of money to keep the new energies from looking like a good move to make.

if that actually happened and we went all in on sale,wind, solar, electric cars, etc. Do you not understand what type of boom we would have economically?

more jobs, destorying the unemployment rate. more manufacturing jobs, which would put tons of more money back in the pockets of americans(poor, middle, and rich folks). which means we will have more to spend on other things. which will help other businesses profit.

because we would then be first class in these energies we would be manufacturing stuff and shipping it off to other countries. now we're the china of the world. the difference is. we make quality products. how much money is that coming in? tons.

and while the energy sources are actually working. they are lowering emission. which even if you dont believe in global warming. it does effect the health of people(breathing, allergies, etc.) less health problems = less money blown on health issues= more money in our pockets. the healthier you are, the more alert you are, the better you can think(come up with more ideas), the less ill you are the better/harder you can work.

electric cars and trucks. mean shipping costs will go down soon. and go down a ton. thats more money in everyones pocket.

NExt thing you know in 2030. we will have electric planes. imagine that. imagine your plane ticket to go from Cali to New Yawk only costing you $150.00 because the price of gas is no longer factured in. only the maintenance of the battery and the energy cost of electricity. but not much of that either if you have it setup where its capturing wind and solar in addition to being plugged up at every stop to get rejuiced.

the different ideas that could be had in the area of energies and its uses. could make more young millionaires similar to the dot.com boom.


now that will help with the economic stuff. it wont help with the border as you stated above. it may somewhat help with the euro. but not enough. obeezy has already discussed what he would LIKE to do about medicare. and has done a few things. not enough of course. but again repubs are holding a lot of this dudes policies up or tearing up the policies they do pass and making them watered down by the time they do pass.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

if that actually happened and we went all in on sale,wind, solar, electric cars, etc. Do you not understand what type of boom we would have economically?

we subsidize these companies a lot and they still don't make money. Solar especially.

 

[blackzeus]

actually the one about the soldiers coming home. didnt obeezy already put something out there for them to atleast be able to get in the front of the line for jobs? hey, thats more then i've seen done in the past for soldiers. just saying.

states on the edge of bankruptcy has to do with the economy as a whole. we tighten that up and that will fix itself. same with unemployment.

obeezy's big idea is to push green energies. your repubs aint having it. and neither are the old guard and old energy companies. they literally spend tons of money to keep the new energies from looking like a good move to make.

if that actually happened and we went all in on sale,wind, solar, electric cars, etc. Do you not understand what type of boom we would have economically?

more jobs, destorying the unemployment rate. more manufacturing jobs, which would put tons of more money back in the pockets of americans(poor, middle, and rich folks). which means we will have more to spend on other things. which will help other businesses profit.

because we would then be first class in these energies we would be manufacturing stuff and shipping it off to other countries. now we're the china of the world. the difference is. we make quality products. how much money is that coming in? tons.

and while the energy sources are actually working. they are lowering emission. which even if you dont believe in global warming. it does effect the health of people(breathing, allergies, etc.) less health problems = less money blown on health issues= more money in our pockets. the healthier you are, the more alert you are, the better you can think(come up with more ideas), the less ill you are the better/harder you can work.

electric cars and trucks. mean shipping costs will go down soon. and go down a ton. thats more money in everyones pocket.

NExt thing you know in 2030. we will have electric planes. imagine that. imagine your plane ticket to go from Cali to New Yawk only costing you $150.00 because the price of gas is no longer factured in. only the maintenance of the battery and the energy cost of electricity. but not much of that either if you have it setup where its capturing wind and solar in addition to being plugged up at every stop to get rejuiced.

the different ideas that could be had in the area of energies and its uses. could make more young millionaires similar to the dot.com boom.


now that will help with the economic stuff. it wont help with the border as you stated above. it may somewhat help with the euro. but not enough. obeezy has already discussed what he would LIKE to do about medicare. and has done a few things. not enough of course. but again repubs are holding a lot of this dudes policies up or tearing up the policies they do pass and making them watered down by the time they do pass.

read this:

we subsidize these companies a lot and they still don't make money. Solar especially.

Solar energy cells are not cheap enough yet, even the chinese manufactured ones. So let me get it straight, green energy is the solution to the economy? you not better off stopping QE, letting bad banks fail, giving incentives for bringing back jobs to America, and restoring income tax to what it was pre-Bush? Perhaps toss in a bit of fear of dissolution and hard time for any investment companies offering municipal bonds?. Permanently banning CMBs and forcing banks to only do loans Fannie Mae would buy or that they plan to hold themselves for forty years?

I bet you right now if Obama offered a ten year $10K tax break per job brought back to the US, 90% of Chinese factories would get closed overnight. Where's the creative Obama that I voted for in '08? That nikka is in the bushes

 

[Grano-Grano]

actually the one about the soldiers coming home. didnt obeezy already put something out there for them to atleast be able to get in the front of the line for jobs? hey, thats more then i've seen done in the past for soldiers. just saying.

states on the edge of bankruptcy has to do with the economy as a whole. we tighten that up and that will fix itself. same with unemployment.

obeezy's big idea is to push green energies. your repubs aint having it. and neither are the old guard and old energy companies. they literally spend tons of money to keep the new energies from looking like a good move to make.

if that actually happened and we went all in on sale,wind, solar, electric cars, etc. Do you not understand what type of boom we would have economically?

more jobs, destorying the unemployment rate. more manufacturing jobs, which would put tons of more money back in the pockets of americans(poor, middle, and rich folks). which means we will have more to spend on other things. which will help other businesses profit.

because we would then be first class in these energies we would be manufacturing stuff and shipping it off to other countries. now we're the china of the world. the difference is. we make quality products. how much money is that coming in? tons.

and while the energy sources are actually working. they are lowering emission. which even if you dont believe in global warming. it does effect the health of people(breathing, allergies, etc.) less health problems = less money blown on health issues= more money in our pockets. the healthier you are, the more alert you are, the better you can think(come up with more ideas), the less ill you are the better/harder you can work.

electric cars and trucks. mean shipping costs will go down soon. and go down a ton. thats more money in everyones pocket.

NExt thing you know in 2030. we will have electric planes. imagine that. imagine your plane ticket to go from Cali to New Yawk only costing you $150.00 because the price of gas is no longer factured in. only the maintenance of the battery and the energy cost of electricity. but not much of that either if you have it setup where its capturing wind and solar in addition to being plugged up at every stop to get rejuiced.

the different ideas that could be had in the area of energies and its uses. could make more young millionaires similar to the dot.com boom.


now that will help with the economic stuff. it wont help with the border as you stated above. it may somewhat help with the euro. but not enough. obeezy has already discussed what he would LIKE to do about medicare. and has done a few things. not enough of course. but again repubs are holding a lot of this dudes policies up or tearing up the policies they do pass and making them watered down by the time they do pass.

The realest post in the-coli right now

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

read this:



Solar energy cells are not cheap enough yet, even the chinese manufactured ones. So let me get it straight, green energy is the solution to the economy? you not better off stopping QE, letting bad banks fail, giving incentives for bringing back jobs to America, and restoring income tax to what it was pre-Bush? Perhaps toss in a bit of fear of dissolution and hard time for any investment companies offering municipal bonds?. Permanently banning CMBs and forcing banks to only do loans Fannie Mae would buy or that they plan to hold themselves for forty years?

I bet you right now if Obama offered a ten year $10K tax break per job brought back to the US, 90% of Chinese factories would get closed overnight. Where's the creative Obama that I voted for in '08? That nikka is in the bushes

We cant afford those tax breaks bruh

shyt is like... I dont know what. But theres a lot of moving pieces. Solutions can't be derived in isolation.

 

[OsO]

We cant afford those tax breaks bruh.

no, you know what we cant afford....













































shyt to keep goin like it is... we are economically unsustainable on so many levels, and anybody with half a brain can see this shyt coming to a head.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

no, you know what we cant afford....













































shyt to keep goin like it is... we are economically unsustainable on so many levels, and anybody with half a brain can see this shyt coming to a head.

Tell me some of these levels.

 

[Loose]

as long as we remain an uni polar power with a strong currency no one will give a fukk

 

[blackzeus]

We cant afford those tax breaks bruh

shyt is like... I dont know what. But theres a lot of moving pieces. Solutions can't be derived in isolation.

Yes, you can, Bush has already given 'em. But instead of handing out tax breaks for no f*ckin' reason, hand 'em out for job creation. If you give a $10K tax break for the employer, but get $8K back by taxing the employee making $40K, you will have only lost $2K in potential taxes, but have created a job, and another solid citizen.

 

[rapbeats]

we subsidize these companies a lot and they still don't make money. Solar especially.

did u just read why they dont make money? do you realize we had the electric car in the 70's. ask yourself how on earth are we barely trying to make them now and why are the batteries still so expensive? thats because SOMEbody dont want it to happen. who would do that? someone with their chips in another pond(OIL).

 

[rapbeats]

read this:



Solar energy cells are not cheap enough yet, even the chinese manufactured ones. So let me get it straight, green energy is the solution to the economy? you not better off stopping QE, letting bad banks fail, giving incentives for bringing back jobs to America, and restoring income tax to what it was pre-Bush? Perhaps toss in a bit of fear of dissolution and hard time for any investment companies offering municipal bonds?. Permanently banning CMBs and forcing banks to only do loans Fannie Mae would buy or that they plan to hold themselves for forty years?

I bet you right now if Obama offered a ten year $10K tax break per job brought back to the US, 90% of Chinese factories would get closed overnight. Where's the creative Obama that I voted for in '08? That nikka is in the bushes

green energy is the next BIG thing. not the only thing. there's a difference. right now if yall want a SPED Up economy and not this slow drip. you need a BOOM. thats the boom. i dont see anything else out there, that can change the game like that. DO YOU? if so, let us know.

and for the record there's no way to BRING jbs back here. there gone and they aint never coming back. thats why we have to make our own boom out of something real and innovative. if we're the first ones out with the best products for a price that everyone can afford(not everyone you get the point though). that will bring more jobs back to america than any policy we could flip. jobs will not stop leaving our shores until we come with a boom OR (and this wont happen) people man up and be honest about the moral issue of sending jobs overseas to make more profit for their companies in the states, by doing what? by hiring workers that get paid less then a legit wage in their home country, get worse treatment then us american workers. this is why icant ride with repubs that talk that christian, moral talk. i'm a christian. i'm not a dem. but i usually vote dem. they probably got me registered as a dem. but let some no name come around talking right with a record to back it. i would be off the blue ship in a heart beat. see you cant kick that moral talk to me while you're watching someone overseas create a sweatshop in your honor so you can bring in more profits. you would rather fire americans, and hire foreigners on the cheap then do things the MORAL, ETHICAL way. yes i know prices would go up if we had more stuff here. but not as much as they make it seem. who says you need HAND over fist profits to begin with? what part of the moral code is that? its not in the good book. if it is, please show me.

but since we know people will do what they gotta do to turn big profits. then we need a boom to cover the rest of us out here. a boom is the only thing that could fix MOST of our economic issues. you think we didnt have issues during clintons term? of course we did. but that dot.com boom made us forget about them for awhile. we had money to blow as a country. and some of us individually. even on the ground level we were doing much better. there is no LOGICAL reason those CElls are that high in price if their were cells in the 70's. somebody is trying to stop the machine from moving forward. we know who that is. BIG OIL.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Yes, you can, Bush has already given 'em. But instead of handing out tax breaks for no f*ckin' reason, hand 'em out for job creation. If you give a $10K tax break for the employer, but get $8K back by taxing the employee making $40K, you will have only lost $2K in potential taxes, but have created a job, and another solid citizen.

Naw it still works out to a 10K tax break

If they don't hire him, govt gets $0

But if they do they should get the $10K from the company and lets say $6K from the dude

So they would still be missing out... its not "covered" by the dude

Personally I think they should get rid of business tax completely... and let the people pay. $12K in taxes is better than no job... and no taxes = a ton of $$$ companies dont have to spend on accountants and lobbyists that they could spend on hiring folks. It should be a permanent solution that is revenue neutral or even revenue generating. They can do it.

 

[blackzeus]

did u just read why they dont make money? do you realize we had the electric car in the 70's. ask yourself how on earth are we barely trying to make them now and why are the batteries still so expensive? thats because SOMEbody dont want it to happen. who would do that? someone with their chips in another pond(OIL).

you are not running big rigs on solar power my dude. It's cool for your artsy b*tchass little cars, but it's not there yet, and most of the small cars are hybrids my G. They got mad oil in Alaska, but we ain't drillin'

 

[blackzeus]

green energy is the next BIG thing. not the only thing. there's a difference. right now if yall want a SPED Up economy and not this slow drip. you need a BOOM. thats the boom. i dont see anything else out there, that can change the game like that. DO YOU? if so, let us know.

and for the record there's no way to BRING jbs back here. there gone and they aint never coming back. thats why we have to make our own boom out of something real and innovative. if we're the first ones out with the best products for a price that everyone can afford(not everyone you get the point though). that will bring more jobs back to america than any policy we could flip. jobs will not stop leaving our shores until we come with a boom OR (and this wont happen) people man up and be honest about the moral issue of sending jobs overseas to make more profit for their companies in the states, by doing what? by hiring workers that get paid less then a legit wage in their home country, get worse treatment then us american workers. this is why icant ride with repubs that talk that christian, moral talk. i'm a christian. i'm not a dem. but i usually vote dem. they probably got me registered as a dem. but let some no name come around talking right with a record to back it. i would be off the blue ship in a heart beat. see you cant kick that moral talk to me while you're watching someone overseas create a sweatshop in your honor so you can bring in more profits. you would rather fire americans, and hire foreigners on the cheap then do things the MORAL, ETHICAL way. yes i know prices would go up if we had more stuff here. but not as much as they make it seem. who says you need HAND over fist profits to begin with? what part of the moral code is that? its not in the good book. if it is, please show me.

but since we know people will do what they gotta do to turn big profits. then we need a boom to cover the rest of us out here. a boom is the only thing that could fix MOST of our economic issues. you think we didnt have issues during clintons term? of course we did. but that dot.com boom made us forget about them for awhile. we had money to blow as a country. and some of us individually. even on the ground level we were doing much better. there is no LOGICAL reason those CElls are that high in price if their were cells in the 70's. somebody is trying to stop the machine from moving forward. we know who that is. BIG OIL.

A) It's got nothing to do with big profits, we're in a global economy. A lot of US industries would have been wiped out by Asian competition, even with the ridiculous tariffs we already charge, if we didn't move factories over there to even the playing field.

B) If you drop the taxes, you even the playing field significantly. A lot of these foreign companies are getting huge tax breaks on top of being subsidized. But without US investment and know-how being sent over there, they would have a hard time continuing their dominance. It's not just the cheap labor, you gotta grease the local political bosses, send mangement overseas, it's a headache man, it's not as much profit as you think. But American's don't wanna work for sh*t, and for any little punkazz reason they throw a hissy fit and go on strike. I've never notice how f*ckin' entitled Americans act until I went to Asia and see them nikkaz dedicatin' their heart, blood, and soul to their company's success . But, for a big tax break, as a businessman myself, I'm telling you most of these companies would bring the jobs back home.

C) The next big is not green energy B. All it will take is stabilization in the Middle East, oil will drop by $20-30 per barrel, and all the interest in green energy would be gone. And if green energy was cheaper than coal or natural gas, it would have been done a long time ago. They went nuclear before they went green, that should tell you about the cost benefit of going green. Most of the recent innovations have been internet based, and most of it is coming from the US with the likes of Facebook, Instagram, Tumblr, Myspace, etc...You realize we issue H1B visas because we can't find enough qualified people in the US? And the ones we do find want 10 times their real market value. We have a shortage of doctors, a shortage of engineering innovation. Our engineering and medical schools are being overran by foreigners. At my graduation in engineering school over 80% were Asian, and over 50% foreign born. It's a damn shame.

 

[blackzeus]

Naw it still works out to a 10K tax break

If they don't hire him, govt gets $0

But if they do they should get the $10K from the company and lets say $6K from the dude

So they would still be missing out... its not "covered" by the dude

Personally I think they should get rid of business tax completely... and let the people pay. $12K in taxes is better than no job... and no taxes = a ton of $$$ companies dont have to spend on accountants and lobbyists that they could spend on hiring folks. It should be a permanent solution that is revenue neutral or even revenue generating. They can do it.

You'd have to show proof you hired and paid salary to get the tax break b Again, these companies ALREADY got tax breaks during the Bush era. Getting rid of business tax doesn't guarantee jobs will come back. Lowering business tax for job creation does.