U.S. deficit and Federal Reserve not brought up?

[Dusty Bake Activate]

your comment on how other parts of the world are more fukked up only reenforces my point.




so you are aware that we are in crisis.

and you are even knowledgable about potential solutions.

but you lack the fortitude and the confidence to try and create real change.

and to make it even worse you even try to deter me from trying to create real change...dont you see how destructive your mentality is?

and for clarity i am not doing it by myself, and i am not personally responsible for creating the entire movement. the movement is already happening, and i am simply playing a PART. just like we ALL play a part.

lol but according to you i should give up my aspirations to create sustainable social change, but i better make sure and vote for obama in november... lol unbelievable.

your entire perspective is a self-defeating contradiction... and this exchange has been very disappointing.

You are too deeply entrenched in your myopic faux revolutionary paradigm of perception of the world that you cannot even speak on my views without skewing them to fit within your lens.

I'm not trying to deter you from doing anything. What I'm doing is telling you that your podcast rants about the Fed and HL screeds about the U. S. government being murderers isn't doing jackshyt to fix large macroeconomic problems and institutional corruption and inefficiencies. If you want to be active in your community in terms of local politics or trying to steer kids on the right path then obviously I won't knock you for that and I would wish you the best. But that amounts to zero on the macro issues we're talking about. You're not drawing and distinction between the micro and the macro. Go to smalltown, anywhere USA and talk that militant America is evil shyt and watch how many 's you get.

And I never said "just vote for Obama and everything will be okay." I said the main hindrances to real substantive to reform of government and the economy are big money in politics and voter ignorance/apathy and the two feed and compound each other.

We can only hope and encourage that people do their part to research and learn about issues and take that information with them to the voting booth so that the political center politicians cater to in order to get elected shifts to a position that is rooted in reason, sanity, and ethics. We need a more politically literate and engaged society. They have that in Canada for instance. You act like these politicians and bureaucrats are grown in a vat somewhere instead of products of American culture, society, schools, churches, and businesses.

So on that front, I'm doing a lot more than you because while I don't claim to be sure I'm right, I am fairly well politically literate and studied and share my knowledge with all those around me who will lend an ear. You fancy yourself a revolutionary but you don't do your homework and are not grounded in basic facts. Look no further for evidence than this very thread where you scoffed at people for debating tax plans and complained about the debt in the very same breath, then later cited the Budget Control Act of 2011 not knowing it was political theater of the type that makes you dismiss politics altogethet.

The powers that be want low information people saying fukk voting and fukk the political system and emoting in platitudes and railing against phantom conspiracies. They don't want a bunch of well-versed, knowledgeable people voting because they wouldn't be able to get away with a lot of this shyt. You have natural communicative ability. Maybe you should try to start communicating the right shyt.

 

[OsO]

I'm not trying to deter you from doing anything.

yea, your statements have been real beacons of positivity.

I can't change the world myself and neither can you.

You can't even envision a better system much less implement one. You may have some impact on a kid you mentor or maybe improve your locale in some way, but you personally are never going to change the system. You're getting too old to still be on this naive wannabe revolutionary shyt.

riiiiight... youre not trying to deter my efforts :smugleyet:

What I'm doing is telling you that your podcast rants about the Fed and HL screeds about the U. S. government being murderers isn't doing jackshyt to fix large macroeconomic problems and institutional corruption and inefficiencies.

the podcast is just one prong of a several prong approach. you just dont see the bigger picture... yet.

If you want to be active in your community in terms of local politics or trying to steer kids on the right path then obviously I won't knock you for that and I would wish you the best. But that amounts to zero on the macro issues we're talking about. You're not drawing and distinction between the micro and the macro.

a journey of 1000 miles starts with a single step.

And I never said "just vote for Obama and everything will be okay." I said the main hindrances to real substantive to reform of government and the economy are big money in politics and voter ignorance/apathy and the two feed and compound each other.

from what ive read, and granted i havent read all your posts, you dont offer anything in terms of practical solutions (by practical solutions i mean solutions we can directly control) except for voting. not only that, everything you say about voting deals almost exclusively with the national level and i hear you say almost nothing about the other micro levels of political activity. so in your analysis the individual is powerless and our salvation will come when the politicians decide to give it to us, which is the total opposite of the truth, and also the counterproductive mentality that infects most people today and keeps the population in mental paralysis.

We can only hope and encourage that people do their part to research and learn about issues and take that information with them to the voting booth so that the political center politicians cater to in order to get elected shifts to a position that is rooted in reason, sanity, and ethics.

it is partly your responsibility to inform others about important issues and potential social solutions. but it will take more than going in the voting booth to hold politicians accountable for their actions, and certainly more than that to ensure ethical actions.

We need a more politically literate and engaged society.

i agree

So on that front, I'm doing a lot more than you because while I don't claim to be sure I'm right, I am fairly well politically literate and studied and share my knowledge with all those around me who will lend an ear.

You fancy yourself a revolutionary but you don't do your homework and are not grounded in basic facts. Look no further for evidence than this very thread where you scoffed at people for debating tax plans and complained about the debt in the very same breath, then later cited the Budget Control Act of 2011 not knowing it was political theater of the type that makes you dismiss politics altogethet.

because all the talk you people do about tax plans have no real teeth. at the end of the day regardless of which politicians tax plan we adopt the rich will still be getting richer and the poor will not be getting a muthafukking thing, and in this system thats gonna stay the same no matter what. and thats what im trying to get YOU to see.

The powers that be want low information people saying fukk voting and fukk the political system and emoting in platitudes and railing against phantom conspiracies. They don't want a bunch of well-versed, knowledgeable people voting because they wouldn't be able to get away with a lot of this shyt. You have natural communicative ability. Maybe you should try to start communicating the right shyt.

listen... im all for participating in certain political mechanisms, but it has to be effective. it has to be able to bring about the kind of change we really need, and not be just a symbolic act of democracy.

the way we currently function as a society with our political mechanisms are a joke. there's no responsibility, no accountability, and worst of all no progress. and its going to take more than voting to get where we need to go as a society.