U-God says Killarmy and Sunz of Man were wack, disses Rza. Chumps Vlad

[Wacky D]

Ugod calling them wack cuz if he and deck got the resources and time they got, things mighta been different. Plus i like those groups but lets not pretend every member was wutang quality. Each had a wu quality star and some decent to straight horrible rappers. I dont for a second think he meant killah sin killah priest were wack...

If im ugod in 97 after wu forever where im def dropping quality verses (top 3 imo) and i see islord and 9th prince getting multiple releases before me im mad too. Priest has rza put him on and he leaves right after yet he gets solo and group album with dope production because its a check in rzas pocket from the labels.

Ugod gets what rza gave him on his album... wutang released project.. deck couldnt even get rza to mix his shyt.. i get it

THIS

BUT at the same time, u-god has no business doing a solo record either.

I always say deck, u-god & masta killa should've pulled a BBD and became a trio once they saw the writing on the wall.

EDIT: I remember masta killa receiving surprised rave reviews for his album.

 

[get these nets]

U's book is actually pretty good

Here is an excerpt from the book where he's honest about his rhymes in comparison to the rest of the Wu
page 100, and pages 114-115

 

[Deltron]

 

[spliz]

see, this is where he gets caught lying like he has in the past

yea, Deck got pushed back by Loud. they both did, thats a Steve Rifkind thing. he throws Masta Killa in there, who never had an official solo deal until Nature Sounds in like 02. he didnt suffer, he wasnt being held back, he has always maintained he was cool playing his role until No Said Date came out

idk why Deck got pushed back, ive always maintained he should have dropped in late 97 and had album #2 ready for 99 or 2000. Loud fukked that up, idk how you market a U God solo but he got a bag for it so idk why hes always so salty

U God comes off like a miserable muthafukka honestly. Even down to his facial expressions.

 

[FromBillionsCameOne]

This.

And he is nobody's favorite.

Rza is exclusively responsible for him having any of that and for anyone knowing his name.

"Can't wait for that U-God solo to drop" - Said by nobody ever.

I definitely was anticipating U-God's album dropping and so were thousands of others. He wasn't my favorite member but neither are 8 others. Dude had some amazing verses

 

[Get Right]

I definitely was anticipating U-God's album dropping and so were thousands of others. He wasn't my favorite member but neither are 8 others. Dude had some amazing verses

ok syou and i give u a max of 5k other ppl cared

 

[Alvin]

So Deck was supposed to be like “RZA you don’t remember how the beat went on track four? it was like ‘hunna buh buh boom, da duh boom’ with some horns in the back”

Cmon breh, seriously you have to realize how ridiculous what you are saying is.

what kind of nut shyt was that fool on?

 

[KingJudah2]

 

[FromBillionsCameOne]

ok syou and i give u a max of 5k other ppl cared

Yup haha idgaf man I’m just sayin I can’t be the only one. I don’t care anymore anyway haha

 

[TheDarceKnight]

U-God has been growing on me recently in these interviews. Also been listening to a lot of Wu this month and even though he was far from the best in the group he was still pretty dope and had some great verses.

idk why Deck got pushed back, ive always maintained he should have dropped in late 97 and had album #2 ready for 99 or 2000. Loud fukked that up, idk how you market a U God solo but he got a bag for it so idk why hes always so salty

Deck was on Loud and supposed to be up next after Rae dropped Cuban Linx. He was trying to fight to get his album out while Cuban Linx was out with a lot of heat behind it, as well as Pun and Fat Joe being signed. Then Loud got dropped by its parent company and picked up by Sony or Relativity, and then suddenly he got put onto a bigger machine that had Nas, Bone, etc, and he got pushed way back. Combined with the flood that destroyed his initial album produced by RZA, so he had to remake a new one, and he just had a lot of cards stacked against him.

Edit: he explains a lot of it here

 

[TripleAgent]

Forgot about this one. shyt was tough. Maybe U was right about the beats

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Deck suffered the most. He had some of most prolific bars on the first album.

Absolutely!

Not even just the first album. IMO Deck actually has the most memorable verses on their 2 biggest songs (CREAM and Triumph). Not to mention he's the best set-off verse raper ever. Usually they put a lot of best verses at the end of a song but Deck came through on Guillotine, Triumph, Protect Ya Neck, the list goes on and on, and made it such a hard act to follow.

One of the saddest things in hip-hop history is the flood in RZA's basement destroying his original Unctrolled Substance album produced by RZA and featuring all the Wu members. I have no doubt it could've been on or close to the level of Liquid Swords/Purple Tape.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

hold up..he stalling this like recently>?

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Most producers become super producers by having their own crew/camp to showcase their production skills. Not just doing beats for hire with random artists. Wu was that crew for RZA.

This is a gem right here. Yes. Note to producers that want to be memorable and have a true sound, and not just be a flavor of the month...find a crew to work with and don't just submit random beat placements.

if you think about most of the GOAT producers or even ones that are near the top...damn near all of them (if not all of them) had crews that they produced for regularly and frequently.

Even famous "for hire" producers famous for beat placements like The Neptunes had their own little groups to work with like Clipse, Famlay, and Coldchain.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

He’s right that rza’s beats went to trash after Forever.

People blame the flood but it’s not like he couldn’t get some of those records back or remember how he out together some of the beats he lost but the larger fact was the sampling laws killed him imo

Fair enough, but beyond sampling laws, I believe RZA did have an encounter in a Guitar Center or something with an artist that he sampled, and it changed his perspective on sampling in what I think was for the worse. He genuinely started believing that sampling heavily was stealing and/or less creative, and that's also part of the reason why he moved away from it.