Two Titles - UFC 187: Johnson vs Cormier & Weidman vs Belfort Thread [May 23]

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Perfectson

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i'm just saying everyone is making him this "Brazilian killer" when the guys he's beaten are past their prime. the division has been lackluster for a while since Silva was king. he's done well, he's a good fighter but personally i just don't like him and i think he has been the champ in a time when the division is going through a change that's all.


is he the best middle weight currently, yes or no?
 

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you do know what getting older does to you right? LOL@man boobs - okay drama queen
I'm the same age as Vitor so I get it.

There is a difference is getting older and losing that amount of definition in 18 months. If you can't make the connection between the change and his discontinued use of TRT then you just aren't very observant.
 

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I'm the same age as Vitor so I get it.

There is a difference is getting older and losing that amount of definition in 18 months. If you can't make the connection between the change and his discontinued use of TRT then you just aren't very observant.


yeah, well i'm not very observant then. I don't see a huge change - to that point he was still accused of using TRT, so obviously the change wasn't as pronounced as you're making it out to be.
 

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Middleweight isn't exactly the best division at the moment. Silva already ran through the entire division before Weidman caught him and Belfort, Machida etc were only recently have cats like Rockhold started to make noise. Machida hasn't been any good since he lost the LHW title, Silva was a victim of his own cockiness, Belfort was a cheat and i think the build up for this fight killed him, Bisping can't seem to get over that hurdle and actually fight for a title or beat anyone of note. the division just isn't brimming with talent in the same way LW, WW or BW are. there's some great fighters but it's not like LW where there are several fighters that could become champ at any given time.

Like I said earlier, the UFC's MW is at the best it's ever been. You know it's a good division when a talent like Mousasi is ranked 7. Although the division does take a dip in talent outside the top 9-10 or so. MW, LW and WW are the top 3 divisions in the UFC right now. WW & LW have more depth, but MW has the best group of contenders imo BW isn't brimming with talent, it has 4/5 really good fighters, but the other aforementioned divisions have closer to 9/10.

Since losing the LHW title, Machida KO'd the current #1 contender in the LHW division in Bader, clearly beat Davis & Mousasi, lost a very competitive fight to the champ Weidman and then finished Dollaway. Saying he hasn't been good since losing the LHW title is not true at all.
 
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Weidman giving Tito a run for his money with that dome.
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I think it has to do more with Floyd being a small guy and having a tiny head. Most typical pro athletes would look to have a huge dome compared to him.
 

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I'm thinking Gus v Rumble. If Gus wins he gets a title shot

We just saw that fight breh And Rumble will likely win again. Then what? another title shot for Rumble? Way too soon.

In my opinion, as laughable as it is, Bader deserves to get the next shot. Have Gus fight the winner of OSP vs Glover for the next shot. Man LHW is severely lacking contenders.
 
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