Two men fatally shot outside their East Flatbush home (NSFW)(Update: Cops kill the killer)

Dameon Farrow

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If a person says, im going to kill u or I'm going to get my gun" Yes u can shoot them in the back. Those scissors in the face is pretty much enough.

Besides that, everyone is on edge nowadays. So much shooting going on, you shouldn't be threatening anyone. Just do it, is the motto here.
You gotta show me this rule. First time hearing about it.
 

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He's below their apartment and has been complaining to them about noise since 2018. The reason he went up there and kicked the door was because of the noise. They were initiating conflict by not resolving the issue all those years.

They didn't deserve violence but they probably could have avoided conflict by just complying in 2018. People will be in an apartment and act like they're in a house. A lot of people are straight disrespectful and refuse to to listen when a neighbor complains.

This guy clearly isn't a civilian so they were antagonizing a shooter for years. You never who you're fukking with so resolve all conflict before it escalates to violence. When he kicked the door that should have let them know that things have gone too far and this man isn't playing. That was probably the last chance to fall back but instead you approach him scissors. It was over at that point.
That’s irrelevant because in this particular instance he was the aggressor.

You don’t get to be the aggressor of the situation and then try and gauge the reaction of others. That’s not how it works nor should.
 

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Full disclosure I would never tell that poor woman what I’m about to say. And I hope she doesn’t read anything online with people blaming her….But maaan this is why women need to stay out of men’s disputes.

1- continuing to argue with the shooter outside of her husbands presence

2- distracting your husband while he’s engaged in a threat.

Two fatal flaws in this situation. (Along with the killers actions and her husbands).

Edit: just watched the full vid. She came out by herself and started arguing with him. :mjcry:Bruh my heart sank

This is why ‘pAtRiArcHy’. This is why us old heads move like Neanderthals w/ our chick. This is why we talk about ‘submit’. Etc etc. Only men know how to talk to other men in a conflict. Let men handle men business! Damn!

Great point. She needs to hear it. Women get so many dudes killed its a shame. Women dont reap repercussions like men tho so they don't really understand confrontation.

I tell my girl and women I love don't ever argue with a man. Come get me

I will not defend a woman that's confrontational with men.
 

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That’s irrelevant because in this particular instance he was the aggressor.

You don’t get to be the aggressor of the situation and then try and gauge the reaction of others. That’s not how it works nor should.

I wasn't talking about legally.

He didn't just go up there and randomly start with them. It's been brewing for years because they were initiating conflict. This could have been avoided.
 

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So you can now clear out a hallway?? :what:

He also went back to shoot a shot and dying man, so the scissors were no longer a threat.

I carry concealed here in Louisiana. I know the gun laws, lawyers and Cops in my city.

If we get in a verbal argument and you come up to me with scissors, you're a dead man. You can't run up on people in a threatening manner especially with a weapon.

I hate this happened, but you just can't be this aggressive with people.
 

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Brooklyn keeps on taking it.
I carry concealed here in Louisiana. I know the gun laws, lawyers and Cops in my city.

If we get in a verbal argument and you come up to me with scissors, you're a dead man. You can't run up on people in a threatening manner especially with a weapon.

I hate this happened, but you just can't be this aggressive with people.
Because of the strict gun laws in nyc a lot New Yorkers are gullible and don’t expect someone to have a gun.

I don’t understand this mentality tho. People get shot everyday in NY and people illegally carry guns all over.

But people be so oblivious to the law and will pull knives and scissors on you because they don’t expect someone to be armed. Especially the suspect who look like he had working clothes on.

I don’t play that shyt. In my head everyone in NYC has a gun
 

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You gotta show me this rule. First time hearing about it.

The shooter kicking that guy's door is not an unlawful act.



Justifiable homicide

A. A homicide is justifiable:

(1) When committed in self-defense by one who reasonably believes that he is in imminent danger of losing his life or receiving great bodily harm and that the killing is necessary to save himself from that danger.

(2) When committed for the purpose of preventing a violent or forcible felony involving danger to life or of great bodily harm by one who reasonably believes that such an offense is about to be committed and that such action is necessary for its prevention. The circumstances must be sufficient to excite the fear of a reasonable person that there would be serious danger to his own life or person if he attempted to prevent the felony without the killing.

(3) When committed against a person whom one reasonably believes to be likely to use any unlawful force against a person present in a dwelling or a place of business, or when committed against a person whom one reasonably believes is attempting to use any unlawful force against a person present in a motor vehicle as defined in R.S. 32:1(40), while committing or attempting to commit a burglary or robbery of such dwelling, business, or motor vehicle.

(4)(a) When committed by a person lawfully inside a dwelling, a place of business, or a motor vehicle as defined in R.S. 32:1(40) when the conflict began, against a person who is attempting to make an unlawful entry into the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle, or who has made an unlawful entry into the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle, and the person committing the homicide reasonably believes that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent the entry or to compel the intruder to leave the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle.

(b) The provisions of this Paragraph shall not apply when the person committing the homicide is engaged, at the time of the homicide, in the acquisition of, the distribution of, or possession of, with intent to distribute a controlled dangerous substance in violation of the provisions of the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Law.

B. For the purposes of this Section, there shall be a presumption that a person lawfully inside a dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle held a reasonable belief that the use of deadly force was necessary to prevent unlawful entry thereto, or to compel an unlawful intruder to leave the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle when the conflict began, if both of the following occur:

(1) The person against whom deadly force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering or had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle.

(2) The person who used deadly force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring or had occurred.

C. A person who is not engaged in unlawful activity and who is in a place where he or she has a right to be shall have no duty to retreat before using deadly force as provided for in this Section, and may stand his or her ground and meet force with force.

D. No finder of fact shall be permitted to consider the possibility of retreat as a factor in determining whether or not the person who used deadly force had a reasonable belief that deadly force was reasonable and apparently necessary to prevent a violent or forcible felony involving life or great bodily harm or to prevent the unlawful entry.

Added by Acts 1976, No. 655, §1. Amended by Acts 1977, No. 392, §1; Acts 1983, No. 234, §1; Acts 1993, No. 516, §1; Acts 1997, No. 1378, §1; Acts 2003, No. 660, §1; Acts 2006, No. 141, §1; Acts 2014, No. 163, §1.​
 

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I wasn't talking about legally.

He didn't just go up there and randomly start with them. It's been brewing for years because they were initiating conflict. This could have been avoided.
I never once said that he randomly started with him. I’m dealing with noisy neighbors now so I totally get his frustrations, but his frustrations mean nothing now in the grand scheme of things based on what transpired.
 
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