Trump signs executive order banning transgenders from the military

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people use this exact reasoning to justify not adopting policy that helps Black folks.

I am aware. Black people are an infinitely larger group than trans people and yet the only way we have been able to get meaningful legislation through that benefited and protected us was by extending those rights and protections to the largest group of people possible.

People of color.
Minorities.
Coalitions.

There is little to no exclusively “Black” legislation for a reason.

If Dems want to protect trans people they need to aggressively protect everyone first.
 

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I am aware. Black people are an infinitely larger group than trans people and yet the only way we have been able to get meaningful legislation through that benefited and protected us was by extending those rights and protections to the largest group of people possible.

People of color.
Minorities.
Coalitions.

There is little to no exclusively “Black” legislation for a reason.

If Dems want to protect trans people they need to aggressively protect everyone first.

the controversy around dem policy seems odd to me since they're just ensuring trans people get the same protections & considerations under the law as everyone else, no more no less.
 

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No offense so the trans community.. but I stopped giving af about that entire topic a while ago… I was a medical case manager for hiv patients for years so I know all about the trans community in a way a majority of you do not… and unfortunately, I say, “not my problem”

Deep down inside you guys know you don’t care either…. The average everyday person doesn’t even want a Trans person to touch them, let along share a locker room, bathroom and living quarters with them… let’s be honest

Lots of fake outrage here.

I’m more so worried about what’s in store for BLACK people (American blacks to be exact).. we got enough of our own issues… respectfully, we don’t have time to worry about other groups right now… the Latinos, the Tran community and illegal immigrants gotta find their own way to work through this.

Sounds harsh I know but right now black Americans need to be selfish because the worse has yet to come… he hasn’t really held US over the fire yet… and that should concern all of us
 

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No offense so the trans community.. but I stopped giving af about that entire topic a while ago… I was a medical case manager for hiv patients for years so I know all about the trans community in a way a majority of you do not… and unfortunately, I say, “not my problem”

Deep down inside you guys know you don’t care either…. The average everyday person doesn’t even want a Trans person to touch them, let along share a locker room, bathroom and living quarters with them… let’s be honest

Lots of fake outrage here.

I’m more so worried about what’s in store for BLACK people (American blacks to be exact).. we got enough of our own issues… respectfully, we don’t have time to worry about other groups right now… the Latinos, the Tran community and illegal immigrants gotta find their own way to work through this.

Sounds harsh I know but right now black Americans need to be selfish because the worse has yet to come… he hasn’t really held US over the fire yet… and that should concern all of us

how does being a medical case manager for hiv patients for years lead you to believe it's of no consequence if the government persecutes a group of people and doesn't ensure their rights are being infringed upon?

Deep down inside you guys know you don’t care either…. The average everyday person doesn’t even want a Trans person to touch them, let along share a locker room, bathroom and living quarters with them… let’s be honest

racists literally use language like this :gucci:
 
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how does being a medical case manager for hiv patients for years lead you to believe it's of no consequence if the government persecutes a group of people and doesn't ensure their rights are being infringed upon?



racists literally use this language like this :gucci:
Bro get off my dikk…. Look at my past history I am a back American in no way racist (so please don’t do the typical coli nikka shyt and accuse me of being a racist white man 🙄🤦🏾‍♂️) but I care about US (black Americans) more than any other group because we are all that we’ve got…. So if that makes me racist, then whatever G…… if more of us black Americans just worried about ourselves and let these other groups hold they own nuts, then we would be in better positions as an overall group…. Taking up for groups that would never take up for us (I.e Latinos and lgbt) has always seemed stupid af to me…lemme tell you… majority of the Trans community consider themselves trans before EVERYTHING…. If it came down to a black trans person choosing between riding for thr black community or riding for the trans community, majority of them will choose the trans side WAYYYYYY before they ride for their black side… the truth of the matter is most blacks do NOT rock with trans people in real life and vice versa, so again, I say…. This is fake outrage to a certain extent
 

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how does being a medical case manager for hiv patients for years lead you to believe it's of no consequence if the government persecutes a group of people and doesn't ensure their rights are being infringed upon?



racists literally use this language like this :gucci:
I read it and said the same shyt. fukk being a case manager got to do with shyt? I bet he wouldn’t use that same logic working case management in poor neighborhoods which are majority black. What’s right and what’s wrong? That should be the entire conversation anything else is just noise
 

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the controversy around dem policy seems odd to me since they're just ensuring trans people get the same protections & considerations under the law as everyone else, no more no less.
Because people are dumb.

It’s a lot like that scene in the wire where Bunny Colvin explains how brown paper bags stop police from harassing people who drink in public.

Put it in the brown bag and it’s more tolerable.
 

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No offense so the trans community.. but I stopped giving af about that entire topic a while ago… I was a medical case manager for hiv patients for years so I know all about the trans community in a way a majority of you do not… and unfortunately, I say, “not my problem”

Deep down inside you guys know you don’t care either…. The average everyday person doesn’t even want a Trans person to touch them, let along share a locker room, bathroom and living quarters with them… let’s be honest

Lots of fake outrage here.

I’m more so worried about what’s in store for BLACK people (American blacks to be exact).. we got enough of our own issues… respectfully, we don’t have time to worry about other groups right now… the Latinos, the Tran community and illegal immigrants gotta find their own way to work through this.

Sounds harsh I know but right now black Americans need to be selfish because the worse has yet to come… he hasn’t really held US over the fire yet… and that should concern all of us
They want their basic rights and not to be treated like shyt. And there's plenty of Black American trans people. And they're human beings, touching and sharing spaces doesn't hurt you. This is all a load of nonsense to justify stepping on trans rights.
 

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They want their basic rights and not to be treated like shyt. And there's plenty of Black American trans people. And they're human beings, touching and sharing spaces doesn't hurt you. This is all a load of nonsense to justify stepping on trans rights.
Most black trans identify as trans WAYYY before they identify as black… saw it in my former career all the time

as far as trans interacting in shared spaces with non trans, you cannot expect most people to buy into the fantasy that exist in trans peoples minds… and a majority of people won’t/don’t.

Also, In the military you have to share bathrooms/locker area… especially when I’m basic training and shyt like that. Men get one area and women get another….

Imagine being a woman bathing yourself and in the VERY next shower stall or locker right next to yours is someone with a penis…. Just feet away from you….Now imagine your daughter is in that situation… Cuz I know A LOT of women that don’t care to be in that situation….
 

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N.Y. Hospital Stops Treating 2 Children After Trump’s Trans Care Order
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The hospital canceled their appointments the same week an executive order from President Trump threatened to punish doctors and hospitals for offering gender-affirming care.

Feb. 1, 2025, 12:41 p.m. ET
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Two 12-year-olds had been scheduled to received puberty blockers, but their appointments were canceled, their parents said.GHI/UCG, via Universal Images Group, via Getty Images
A leading New York City hospital system has begun canceling appointments for transgender children following President Trump’s executive order threatening to withhold federal funding to hospitals that provide gender-affirming treatments, according to the children’s parents.

The hospital system, NYU Langone Health, has not made any public announcements. But word spread among parents of trans children after the hospital canceled appointments for two 12-year-olds who had been scheduled to receive implants that dispense puberty-blocking medication.

The father of one of the children said his child’s doctor had told him that because of “the new administration” — a reference to Mr. Trump’s executive order — the hospital would not able to proceed with the procedure. The child had been due on Thursday to have a small device that would release Supprelin LA, a puberty-blocking medication, implanted in the upper arm. The father said the doctor suggested that they try calling other hospital systems in New York City or one the doctor recommended in Philadelphia.

The second 12-year-old was scheduled to have the same procedure on Friday.
That child’s mother said she was informed that her child’s appointment was canceled on Wednesday, one day after the executive order was issued. When she asked why, she said, she was told that the medical team was “awaiting more guidance.”

A spokesman for NYU Langone Health, Steve Ritea, declined to comment, saying he did not have any information he could share. NYU Langone is one of several major medical centers in the city with transgender health programs for youth and adolescents. About 3 percent of teenagers ages 13 to 17 in New York State said they are transgender, about twice the national average, according to one recent survey.

The executive order at issue is one of a flurry that President Trump has issued regarding gender and trans issues in his first two weeks in office. It takes aim at doctors and hospitals who provide trans youth under the age of 19 with gender-affirming medical treatment, which can include puberty blockers, hormone therapy and surgery.

“It is the policy of the United States that it will not fund, sponsor, promote, assist or support the so-called ‘transition’ of a child from one sex to another,” the executive order states, “and it will rigorously enforce all laws that prohibit or limit these destructive and life-altering procedures.”

One of Mr. Trump’s other executive orders addressed “restoring biological truth to the federal government” by, among other provisions, requiring federal prisons to house transgender women in men’s facilities. Another order seeks to stop schools from recognizing trans identities.

The order restricting gender-affirming care follows similar bans already passed by more than two dozen states, according to the Human Rights Campaign. Many of the bans are being challenged in court. Broader questions about medical treatment for young people who are seeking to transition have been the subject of debate in the United States and Europe.

Hospitals in New York City have been consulting with their lawyers to understand what this order means for their programs that provide medical care to trans children, according to officials at two hospital systems who declined to be quoted for this article.

One threatened consequence for hospitals and medical schools is the loss of significant federal research funding. The federal government provides research funds to major medical institutions. The order directs the government to ensure that institutions receiving such funding stop “the chemical and surgical mutilation of children,” which is how the order describes “gender-affirming care” for youth.

There is also the threat of prosecution and lawsuits. The order specifically directs the Justice Department to examine whether a federal law against female genital mutilation can be applied to some gender-affirming surgeries. That law was passed with another goal in mind: to outlaw the cutting of the clitoris or labia among girls of immigrant families in the United States. Rites of passage involving female genital cutting are common in some parts of the world.

At one clinic that provides gender-affirming care to trans youth, a doctor has been telling his patients that he will continue to provide them with puberty blockers and hormone therapy, even if it means prosecution.

“I’m willing to go to jail to continue to provide your care,” Dr. Jeffrey Birnbaum said he had been telling his young trans patients and their parents since the executive order. A pediatrician at the state-run University Hospital of Brooklyn, Dr. Birnbaum said he saw roughly 75 trans patients, including many teenagers. :scust:

A father of one of Dr. Birnbaum’s patients, Mark Armstrong, said the executive order had left his 14-year-old panicked that she would not be able to get the next shot of puberty-blocking medicine in March.

For some children with gender dysphoria — distress over the mismatch between their gender identity and their birth sex — puberty blockers can help them navigate their feelings and identity, reducing depression and distress, experts say.

“It decreases their dysphoria,” Dr. Birnbaum said, adding that the blockers have made some of his patients feel “less suicidal.”

Mr. Armstrong, a theater director who lives in Brooklyn, said he was relieved to hear that Dr. Birnbaum intended to continue his daughter’s treatment. “Obviously, there is a lot of free-floating anxiety in the trans parent community,” he said.

The mother of the second 12-year-old whose procedure at NYU Langone was canceled said that her child, who identifies as nonbinary, :mindblown: had begun puberty last year and that it had caused her child distress. The child had previously received an injection of puberty blockers, but had been scheduled to get an implant that would last for a year. :snoop:

The mother said she was devastated that her child’s medical care was canceled over fear of retribution by the government. She and her family had been calling other hospitals and doctors in the hope of finding one that might treat the child. “I don’t think we have a lot of options,” the mother said.
 
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