True Detective Season 1 (NO SPOILERS)

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Great ending......its deeper than they know and Rust realized that walking through that dungeon....alsothe mount of strength Rust needed to muster for those headbutts while he was being gutted and lifted only held together by his ab muscles was amazing.....the point was dude had been doing that a long time and used the cover of his landscape/paint business as a cover and he was one of the first people they met back in 95
 

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surprised theres no gif yet for when matthew first sees erol and tells him to stop and erol says no and then runs shyt was comedy just that split second





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That never happened. You made up the contents of that conversation and changed the wording to fit the narrative you were trying to spew.

You said all that without saying anything.

How didn't that happen? That's exactly what happened. Quote the conversation word-for-word between Marty and Rust, then tell me what you think it meant, because you seem to have missed the point.

And you said:

We all know your reputation for riding hard for shows, so at some point we just have to sit back and let you have the last word so we can move on with our online lives.

Ok....so move the fukk on. Stop acting like you're above this kind of shyt.

Fred.
 
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You said imall that without saying anything.

How didn't that happen? That's exactly what happened.

And you said:



Ok....so move the fukk on. Stop acting like you're above this kind of shyt.

Fred.
Breh you are dense as fukk right now. Are you high? I pointed out twice why what you said about the conversation was wrong. You changed the words to something completely different that changed the entire tone and meaning of Rust's true words

And this is twice that you have falsely stated that I act like Im above this shyt. You are unbearably annoying right now, and Im at work so I cant spend all day picking apart all your twisted words. Tired of seeing your egotistical need to have the last word on everything and signing your stupid name like anyone gives a shyt. Then thinking you 'sonned' somebody cause you got a dap? Fall the fukk back before I hunt through this thread and continue the exposal of your self righteousness that others started.
 
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if somebody could gif the scene where russ is being interviewed by the cops early in the show, starring up at the ceiling talking bout "this thisss is for me all this, im so important" but gif the part where he goes FUKKKKKKK UUUUUUU and flips off the ceiling and back to the cops. love that moment lol
 

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Breh you are dense as fukk right now. Are you high? I pointed out twice why what you said about the conversation was wrong. You changed the words to something completely different that changed the entire tone and meaning of Rust's true words

And this is twice that you have falsely stated that I act like Im above this shyt. You are unbearably annoying right now, and Im at work so I cant spend all day picking apart all your twisted words. Tired of seeing your egotistical need to have the last word on everything and signing your stupid name like anyone gives a shyt. Then thinking you 'sonned' somebody cause you got a dap? Fall the fukk back before I hunt through this thread and continue the exposal of your self righteousness that others started.

So you're admitting you don't know what the fukk you're talking about? Oh ok.

Your every post in here is a PSA for why people shouldn't binge watch the show. Rust went into a long rant about how mankind should "walk hand-in-hand into extinction", yet he's still alive.

So he's a hypocrite. That's the very first episode. What exactly are you debating here? What "tone" did I change? It's straight forward as fukk.

And I quoted what you said exactly. You said:

We all know your reputation for riding hard for shows, so at some point we just have to sit back and let you have the last word so we can move on with our online lives.

Ok...again, move the fukk on. But you won't, because you're a hypocrite. No wonder you're the one person to have a problem with what I'm saying about Rust.

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So you're admitting you don't know what the fukk you're talking about? Oh ok.

Your every post in here is a PSA for why people shouldn't binge watch the show. Rust went into a long rant about how mankind should "walk hand-in-hand into extinction", yet he's still alive.

So he's a hypocrite. That's the very first episode. What exactly are you debating here? What "tone" did I change? It's straight forward as fukk.

And I quoted what you said exactly. You said:



Ok...again, move the fukk on. But you won't, because you're a hypocrite. No wonder you're the one person to have a problem with what I'm saying about Rust.

Fred.


Hey look, you replied again and added no substance. You just want the last word so you can jerk off to your post history. Will you reply to this? I dare you not to. Do you have it in you or is your ego too far out of control?
 

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I hesitate to wade into this discussion of the finale because the shyt seems contentious already, but fukk it...

I kind of liked it. I definitely didn't love it. Of the 8 episodes this ranked near the bottom for me.

There's a cliche, annoying phrase people use in writing classes when assessing short fiction: did this story earn its ending? I didn't think what I saw in episode 8 was a natural extension of or conclusion to what we'd seen over the season's build up. That's not saying the episode was wack or the show is somehow now a letdown, so sheath your knives, zealots.

One major issue for me was pace. The pace of the entire show, of life in rural Lousiana, of the characters' lives was an enjoyably slow, messy burn. The final episode felt quick and neat. I was worried about that after episode 7, because, shyt, how the fukk can you tie up so much we've obsessed over in one hour. Of course you can't, and the point of the show is that it reflects the nature of the human experience, where loose ends are more prominent in a life than closure... But still, I wanted at least a bit more. Maybe an extra half hour would've allowed for that.

Anyway, yeah, the green paint seemed like a cheap trick to bridge an impasse.The serial killer was dope, accents were great, house was creepy - but I wanted better than a standard "chase the killer into his lair" scene. The vicious stabbing and resultant "cliffhanger" as to whether Rust lives felt hackneyed, as did the last-second headshot. Throw in the tender moment outside the hospital (and yes, Matty Mac killed that scene, no doubt, he was on fire) and the final line about the light... Suddenly a show that hooked me by operating outside of conventions shrunk itself to fit comfortably within them.

I flashed back to the movie Se7en a lot while watching this season. Both have distinctive cinematography, that slow burn pace, a tense partnership between two compelling detectives, one more impulsive and hotheaded, the other more world-weary and prone to philosophizing about human nature and the ugliness of the world. To make this as simple and succinct as possible: True Detective, for whatever reason, didn't put the head in the box.

If there's no head in the box, and somehow they catch Spacey's character, we get the traditional hero moment, I guess. Or if Brad Pitt's character doesn't shoot Spacey... Whatever the case, the movie ends with Brad Pitt having quite literally stared into the face of evil, into the horror, and being forever ruined by it. Morgan Freeman maintains his ethics and his wisdom but he is also profoundly changed. "The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for." Freeman's character will only concede the latter half. And that is what True Detective built itself to be on a collision course with - and what is represented by the "Yellow King," a play so horrifying it ruins its audience - "the horror, the horror." The world as worth fighting for, sure - but not the world in which light is gaining on dark and quasi-religious epiphanies restore a man to some existential equilibrium. Instead of ruin, we get redemption. And that felt like a capitulation to tastes dictated by convention, not a conclusion worthy of all the scenes that built on each other to reach that point.

All that said, I thoroughly enjoyed the show. I agree with Mel though, that it was on the brink of being transcendent, but ended up being an excellent show instead. Which isn't the worst thing one can say about a program.

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Great post.

When Marty was holding Rust and the flare went up overhead, I thought that's where they were gonna die. Just seemed like a fitting ending to have them meet their doom in Carcosa.

I don't have a problem with the way it ended though and they handled Rust's emotional turn well.
 

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Hey look, you replied again and added no substance. You just want the last word so you can jerk off to your post history. Will you reply to this? I dare you not to. Do you have it in you or is your ego too far out of control?

I got 200+ posts here and I'd say a good....75% of them have substance. I'm a grown man. You need to try this "I dare you to not get the last word, while letting me get the last word!" with your sister or your girlfriend or somebody.

I'm just asking you to explain what you mean. That's it. And....you don't seem to be able to. I quoted how I interpreted the scene with Rust/Marty....you said I was wrong, misquoted, got out of context, tone, whatever....so I said "ok, quote it and tell me what you think it means". And you went on a rant about my name, and my ego, and how you're at work. I don't give a fukk about all that. Did you seriously expect to pop into a thread that's 100+ pages long, where cats have gotten into serious debates about this shyt....disagree, then duck behind "oh, I'm at work, I don't care"?

So, instead of us going back and forth like this, why don't you explain what you mean? How did you interpret the scene?

Fred.
 

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People are just hung up on the concept of a happy ending =/= bad one.

This entire show has been a statement about this genre, and the ending is continuing with the theme. We've been told for twenty or so years how this show was supposed to work and they did none of it.

It's funny, the idea that the happy ending is a cliche, when damn near ALL entries in this genre have some "deep" downer ending.
 
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