True Detective Season 1 (NO SPOILERS)

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The Yellow King

This is references a very old collection of short stories (genre: cosmic horror a la HP Lovecraft's stuff) published in 1895 called the The King in Yellow. The name The King in Yellow references a fictional play in the short stories. Whoever witnesses/reads the acts of this play is driven to despair, depravity, and insanity. The King in Yellow is supposed to be some ancient Cthulhu god from HP Lovecraft's works (who is also known as Hastur). The short stories/play also mentions the city of Carcosa, an ancient and mysterious city that is supposed to be cursed. Also, for any of you who are familiar with Cthulhu mythos knows that they are supposed to look like kind of tentacley monsters; Hastur (The King in Yellow) looks like this

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Where have we heard of someone matching this description? Episode 1 the detectives ask about a little girl being chased through the woods, and the local sheriff tells them she says she was being chased by a "spaghetti monster."

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(I made this connection myself, could be wrong though).




"Time is a flat circle"

This part deals with Rust's monologue to the two detectives interviewing him in the present (Episode 5). He tells the detectives "Someone once told me time is a flat circle. Everything we've ever done or will do we're gonna do over and over and over again." LeDoux is the one who tells him this right before he gets shot by Marty.

What does this mean? Well let's take a look at the rest of the conversation:

"You ever heard of something called membrane theory, detectives?" Rust asks.

"No," Papania says. "That's over my head."

Rust: "It's like, in this universe, we process time linearly. Forward. But outside of our space-time, from what would be a fourth-dimensional perspective, time wouldn't exist. And from that vantage, could we attain it, we'd see"—he crushes a can of Lone Star between his palms—"our space-time look flattened, like a seamless sculpture. Matter in a super-position—every place it ever occupied. Our sentience just cycling through our lives like carts on a track. See, everything outside our dimension—that's eternity. Eternity looking down on us. Now, to us, it's a sphere. But to them, it's a circle."

Sounds pretty heavy huh? Who are the mysterious beings in that outer dimension? Straight from the director's mouth:

"Cohle describes the possibility of other dimensions existing, and he says that’s what eternity is. He says that if somehow you existed outside of time, you’d be able to see the whole of our dimension as one superstructure with matter superimposed at every position it had ever occupied. He says that the nature of the universe is your consciousness, and it just keeps cycling along the same point in that superstructure: when you die, you’re reborn into yourself again, and you just keep living the same life over and over. He also explains that from a higher mathematical vantage point, our dimension would seem less dimensional. It would look flattened, almost.

Now, think about all the things Cohle is talking about, is he a man railing against an uncaring god? Or is he a character in a TV show railing against his audience? Aren't we the creatures of that higher dimension? The creatures who can see the totality of his world? After all, we get to see all eight episodes of his life. On a flat screen. And we can watch him live that same life over and over again, the exact same way."




A show just about a couple of detectives trying to catch a serial killer this is not.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 

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I remember when season 5 of "Breaking Bad" started and I explained the connection between Gus and Augusto Pinochet. I had a long ass post with links and pictures and all kinds of shyt....and the thread was massive, so the next time someone asked about it I went to Google to look for my post, because it would've been faster than a thread search or re-typing it all out.

And I found it, because somebody had taken my entire post, and put it on another board like "hey guys, look what I figured out". And it was a random site, like body-building or some shyt. I was gonna register and blow up their spot but :yeshrug: it's not that deep.

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think it was someone on this thread, doubling on another forum too?

maybe a lurker.

Rust would be so pissed at them...
 
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THIS SHOW IS LIKE BREAKING BAD ALL OVER AGAIN

LOOKING FOR CLUES AND SYMBOLS EVERY EPISODE

MY MAN @hexagram23 MUST BE LOVING THIS shyt

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

No disrespect to Breaking Bad, but this levels deeper (and intentionally so).

A lot of the stuff in Breaking Bad was very formulaic(writing and plot-wise specifically, especially towards the end).

Just my opinion.

Cinematography was amazing though.
 

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Does anyone recall what became of the biker guy Ginger? Last time I recall seeing him was in the cab of Rust's truck, bound up in duct tape.

I get the feeling there might be 5 killers/kings. Rust cuts out 5 stick figures out of the cans.

5 people would fit around a pentagram perfectly...the sacrifice killing in the middle

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I be damned if the girl in the striped shirt don't look like a young Maggie Hart..... :lupe:

in the photoshopped pic the boy with the stripe on his sleeve is looking in the direction of the shopped head like "seriously"...
I thought she looked liked the doctor that Rust was going out with.
 

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Does anyone recall what became of the biker guy Ginger? Last time I recall seeing him was in the cab of Rust's truck, bound up in duct tape.

Rust says that he left Ginger in a ditch somewhere

I'm assuming that he untied Ginger, knocked him out, and left him there knowing that he would figure things out (if so, LOL @ Rust continually abusing Ginger)

Either that, or he went back for Ginger later.

I don't think it's a loose end that we should be worried about, or a hole they forgot to handle
 

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Let this show clock at least 1/2 of the episodes that Breaking Bad did, then we'll talk.

As for right now, it's a fantastic show. Breaking Bad was 5/5 IMO, and this show is doing it too as far as I've seen.

Doesn't really apply to anything I said though.

I said earlier that the show itself, True Detective, should not be mentioned with those other shows because the other shows have seasons of great episodes. That's much harder to do.

That being said, I think we can acknowledge (in my opinion) that these 5 episodes are up there with any 5 episodes in those series. And I stand by the fact that the writing for this series has incredible depth.
 

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Doesn't really apply to anything I said though.

I said earlier that the show itself, True Detective, should not be mentioned with those other shows because the other shows have seasons of great episodes. That's much harder to do.

That being said, I think we can acknowledge (in my opinion) that these 5 episodes are up there with any 5 episodes in those series. And I stand by the fact that the writing for this serious has incredible depth.
I will agree that I have not anticipated episodes of a show like this since BB, or when I was very deep into The Wire.

I also have NEVER researched a show like this. The depth of it all is extremely immersing, so that in and of itself is very fun to experience.
 
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