Trade 3 Firsts and a 3rd for a 4th Brehs - Official 2023 San Francisco 49ers Season Thread!!!

[Jmare007]

Yes Kyle….. fix the thing that’s cost us Superbowls

That quote doesn't say anything of note

Here's the whole Peter King Piece
49ers: The SF Safety Net

SANTA CLARA, Calif.—When I left Niners’ camp Thursday, I had no intention of writing about Kyle Shanahan. I was intent on writing about the strangest six-year quarterback run I’ve seen in my four decades of covering the NFL, and what makes Brock Purdy tick, and how he looks in training camp, and the very weird story of Trey Lance.
When I sat down to write Sunday, I changed my mind. Just a gut feeling.
The details:

• Shanahan has coached six seasons, covering 107 regular- and post-season games.
• Six starting quarterbacks in six seasons, covering 107 games.
• A first-round quarterback started four of the 107.
• Where each of the six starting QBs was drafted: third, 62nd, 104th, 262nd, undrafted, undrafted.
• In the one season out of six that the same quarterback started from start to finish, 2019, San Francisco was seven minutes away from winning the Super Bowl.
• The 49ers have never been in the bottom half of the league’s total offense rankings in Shanahan’s six years. Last year, when three different quarterbacks started, the Niners were fifth in total yards and sixth in points.
• Mr. Irrelevant, Brock Purdy, was 8-0 last year in games he started or played at least three quarters.
• The QB depth chart this summer has the 262nd pick of 2022 (Purdy) ahead of the number three overall picks in 2018 (Sam Darnold) and 2021 (Lance).

September 2022: Lance was named starting quarterback … Week two: Head athletic trainer Dustin Little tells Shanahan, mid-game, that Lance has a fractured ankle. Out likely for the year. Jimmy Garoppolo enters the game at Seattle and pilots a 20-point win … Week 13: Little tells Shanahan, mid-second quarter, that Garoppolo has a broken foot. Likely out six months, which is the season. “Exactly the same feeling I had when he came to me week three [2018] and said Jimmy’s gone with an ACL,” Shanahan said. “Like, oh s---.” Brock Purdy leads the Niners to a 16-point win … NFC title game: Purdy gets sacked on the last play of the first drive, severely injuring his elbow. A couple minutes later, Purdy goes to Shanahan on the sidelines and says, “You gotta put Josh [Johnson, the backup] in the game. I’m not tapping out, but I can’t throw at all.” A bridge too far. Niners got waxed by the Eagles.

March 2023: Purdy’s elbow surgery got delayed. Lance was rehabbing well, but he wasn’t perfect. Free-agency hell for Shanahan. What to do? “We feel we got the quarterbacks here,” said Shanahan. “But one is having elbow surgery and if that does go wrong, and we find out four months from now that they gotta redo something, he might not play this year. Then we have Trey, who’s coming off a broken ankle, who we haven’t seen do anything yet to know how he’s coming back from that. Not to mention, he’s only played one game and a quarter the year before. That’s why we hoped to get Sam Darnold. We were able to be honest with Sam, but it all came down to Sam wanting that role. Sam still could’ve gone other places for a lot more money. For him to come here—a huge leap of faith. He had no idea if he was coming for the one, two or three job.”

Aug. 17, 2023: For the first time since the surgery, Purdy practices for a third straight day; he’s fine. Darnold is in the lead for number two, practicing fully. Lance has had some bad throws, but he’s healthy and just needs reps as the number three. “Honestly, I never thought we’d be sitting here with three really good guys ready to go right now,” Shanahan said. “It’s amazing what we’ve been through, really. And now …”

And now the Niners are in the best quarterback situation, one through three, in the seven seasons of Shanahan’s reign. This is a crazy, crazy world.



“I think back to the night of the Miami game, when we lost Jimmy and had to play Brock,” Shanahan said. “The feeling after that game was very sad, because of what happened to Jimmy. And I’m laying there in bed that night, and I say, ‘Man, it’s awful for Jimmy. But wait a second. Brock did play pretty good.’ Like, just because we’re to our third-string quarterback does not mean things are gonna change. Then you come in on Monday and you think, ‘Well, I’ll pump up Brock so the players will believe and so they don’t get all down.’ But you know what? I didn’t have to do anything. They believed in Brock. They’d seen him in practice. Then he just came in and never lost a game. Kept getting better and better.”

Shanahan stared at me. “I forgot what the question was,” he said.

“But year after year, all these quarterbacks. All these bad injuries. The one thing we believed in was having a great defense. That keeps games close, then you just figure a way sometimes on offense. Why’d we go after Javon Hargrave this year? Defense. Make it hard to score on us.”

He brought up the Super Bowl champ Bucs, with Brad Johnson at quarterback. And the Ravens, winning the title with Trent Dilfer. The defenses were so good those teams didn’t need a tremendous quarterback.

And this is the biggest surprise of the 35 minutes I spent with Shanahan. He’s more laser-focused on building a defense and a kicking game, with GM John Lynch and personnel czar Adam Peters, than he is on building a team that leads the league in scoring every year. It was just 19 months ago that the Niners had zero going for them on offense, trailed Green Bay 10-3 with five minutes left, and won on a zero-degree wind-chill night with a blocked punt and long field goal at the end. Thus spending big on Hargrave this year. If they live in quarterback hell again this year—not likely, but in San Francisco, who knows?—they’ll always have a chance.

“That’s kind of been a view of how to build a team for me forever,” he said. “Hoping you can always have that quarterback, but if you can build that defense that way and play the right way, you do have a chance.”

Ninety minutes later, I’m standing in the end zone at practice. The number one offense is playing the ones on defense, and it’s a red zone period. Eleven on 11. Darnold and Lance, the insurance policies, stand 10 yards behind the first unit, watching Purdy. On Purdy’s third straight day of practice testing his surgically repaired right elbow, he examines the defense from the 10-yard line.

Purdy barks: “One-18! One-18 HUT!!!”

At the snap, Purdy sees Deebo Samuel, running an out route from the left flank, cutting to the pylon at the goal line, with half a step on the cover corner. Purdy throws exactly as Samuel cuts, and the ball is thrown on a laser three yards shy of the pylon, where only Samuel can catch it. Samuel dives. Catches it. Touchdown. One hundred seventy days after significant elbow surgery, Purdy throws the ball just like he always has. The fastball, always underrated, is back.

“To be able to go out and practice and still make all the throws with velocity, on time, gives me a lot of confidence,” Purdy told me post-practice. “I’m confident, ready to roll for this year.”

I left camp being sure of only one thing: Shanahan will have insurance, and confidence the thing can work, if some debacle befalls Purdy. That’s how good coaches operate—with safety nets. Because nothing is certain in football.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

That quote doesn't say anything of note

Here's the whole Peter King Piece
49ers: The SF Safety Net

You exposing my agenda and tomfoolery?

You know you might as well quit while you ahead…. You ain’t got the stamina to keep up with me and fact check me for the next 10 months

Don’t fight it and let the fukkery takeover and consume you

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

It really is wild how Trey’s on track to be one of the biggest busts of all time but the team is still a perennial SB contender

Never seen anything like it

That doesn't even make sense... Biggest bust of all time

Man has played FOUR fukking games... Ryan Leaf played 4 seasons and 25 games

Trey hasn't even played as many games as Brock... The fact y'all have either one down as good or bad is really nonsense.. You need two full seasons to properly place a QB... Some take even longer than that.. Alex Smith took a couple teams to the conference championship but everyone called him a bust too

 

[Jmare007]

You exposing my agenda and tomfoolery?

You know you might as well quit while you ahead…. You ain’t got the stamina to keep up with me and fact check me for the next 10 months

Don’t fight it and let the fukkery takeover and consume you

Peter King Is one of the few people that has interesting stuff when he reports about the Niners

 

[Dat916nigga]

That doesn't even make sense... Biggest bust of all time

Man has played FOUR fukking games... Ryan Leaf played 4 seasons and 25 games

Trey hasn't even played as many games as Brock... The fact y'all have either one down as good or bad is really nonsense.. You need two full seasons to properly place a QB... Some take even longer than that.. Alex Smith took a couple teams to the conference championship but everyone called him a bust too

First off, l said Trey's on track to be one of the biggest busts of all time. Mainly because of the trade up. How many times has a team given up so much to draft a player that's given them so little in return? he's still got time to turn it around, but time's running out

Second, Trey starting just 4 games in 2 years proves my point. How many more games is he gonna start in SF? He's not the current starter, so things would have to go really wrong for Brock (and Darnold?) for him to get another shot and become the full time starter again. Those odds are against him

And I understand the Alex Smith comp but it's apples and oranges to Trey's situation. It took Alex until Year 7 before he had a decent year leading SF to the NFCCG and that was in 2011. Front offices are even less patient now. They'll replace you quick if they think they have a better option, and Trey already got replaced by Brock for better or for worse

For the record, I'm pulling for Trey and still think that he's got what it takes to be a solid starting QB. But if he's gonna get there, it unfortunately won't be with us

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

First off, l said Trey's on track to be one of the biggest busts of all time. Mainly because of the trade up. How many times has a team given up so much to draft a player that's given them so little in return? he's still got time to turn it around, but time's running out

Second, Trey starting just 4 games in 2 years proves my point. How many more games is he gonna start in SF? He's not the current starter, so things would have to go really wrong for Brock (and Darnold?) for him to get another shot and become the full time starter again. Those odds are against him

And I understand the Alex Smith comp but it's apples and oranges to Trey's situation. It took Alex until Year 7 before he had a decent year leading SF to the NFCCG and that was in 2011. Front offices are even less patient now. They'll replace you quick if they think they have a better option, and Trey already got replaced by Brock for better or for worse

For the record, I'm pulling for Trey and still think that he's got what it takes to be a solid starting QB. But if he's gonna get there, it unfortunately won't be with us

Sounds like one of the worst trades in history..

Has zero to do with "this man sucks" as you say about a bust...

They purposely sat him and then he played 1 game and then got injured... That's not on pace for anything skill related

 

[Dat916nigga]

Sounds like one of the worst trades in history..

Has zero to do with "this man sucks" as you say about a bust...

They purposely sat him and then he played 1 game and then got injured... That's not on pace for anything skill related

It’s one thing to purposely sit Trey in Year 1. It’s another thing to purposely sit him in Year 3

We can agree to disagree on whether or not the team thinks he straight up sucks. But we can’t deny is that they don’t think he’s currently the best option at QB to win games. Some of this is bad injury luck but some of it is skill related. From the little we’ve seen of Brock, he can hang his hat on skills like short-to-intermediate accuracy and short area quickness. From the little we’ve seen of Trey, what skills has he shown he can hang his hat on? Serious question

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

It’s one thing to purposely sit Trey in Year 1. It’s another thing to purposely sit him in Year 3

We can agree to disagree on whether or not the team thinks he straight up sucks. But we can’t deny is that they don’t think he’s currently the best option at QB to win games. Some of this is bad injury luck but some of it is skill related. From the little we’ve seen of Brock, he can hang his hat on skills like short-to-intermediate accuracy and short area quickness. From the little we’ve seen of Trey, what skills has he shown he can hang his hat on? Serious question

No shyt the guy won 8 games

Here's what's funny and I can't find any evidence it's not true....... What if Kyle DOES think Trey is better than Purdy, but it'll be career suicide if he benches the guy who took them to the NFC Championship?

We don't know what Kyle truly believes.. Same way with Jimmy in Year 1. Some things a coach simply doesn't have the balls to do or knows it'll tear his team apart if he does.

Purdy is starting cause he won 8 games... If he went 4-4, you think he'd be the starter?

 

[Dat916nigga]

It is what it is

 

[Bryan Danielson]

It is what it is

Maaaaaaan WTF????

 

[Dat916nigga]

Maaaaaaan WTF????

They been telling us what the QB situation was since Darnold signed in March

All those reports saying that Trey was the likely QB3 and brehs didn’t wanna believe it

 

[Bryan Danielson]

They been telling us what the QB situation was since Darnold signed in March

All those reports saying that Trey was the likely QB3 and brehs didn’t wanna believe it

This is honestly really disappointing. I wish we never got rid of Jimmy

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Kyle could have pulled Darnold after the high and late int. Instead he wanted to get him a TD DRIVE so we wouldnt hear about how Trey had a shot to be the backup.

 

[King Kreole]

This is honestly really disappointing. I wish we never got rid of Jimmy

why? Brock is better and cheaper.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Literally no misses. And you give up on Trey because of Sam Darnold? Wild.