TN Repub state Senator wants to tie welfare benefits to kids' academic performance

[GoPro]

Im all for the bill.

 

[Brown_Pride]

this is what im saying

i feel like some of yall are misunderstanding that

black families =/= underprivileged black families

this is just the average parent(s) on welfare cause they do menial work and have little to no skills and probably were raised that way too

the whole hope and assumption that people like that will change their ways on "good faith" is just silly

Fuk no man i've been on welfare, even as an adult, times get rough for everyone at some point and having that to fall back on is only socially responsible. Like i said earlier, i don't look down on people seeking help, but I also don't victimize them. I believe they can do better, and I sure as fuk believe a D is possible. If anything it being so low is a fukin slap in the face.
White guy: Looky here darkies, we want yall ta help yaselfs. We know THE BEST you can do is a D so that's all weez gon ask.

 

[Robbie3000]

I'll be that. Im sorry, I grew up seeing kids my age have to dig in a landfill just to have food to eat. I grew seeing kids my age lose their parents to AIDS and violence, and they still made it.

All these parents have to do if make sure their kids MAKE A D-, and they get full benefits. And that's too much to ask? At what point is it ok to ask these people to start taking responsibility in their lives, please tell me. Serious question.

Breh, I come from a similar immigrant background. Don't be so arrogant just cause your family was able to make it. How many of your family and country men are still stuck in squalor that they can't escape?

Are African people stupid and lazy cause there is a lot of poverty in African countries?

The fact is for whatever reason, your parents were more motivated than 99% of people that they grew up with just as my parents were. And you were fukking lucky. Don't take your good fortune as an excuse to shyt on other poor people without fully appreciating the full breadth of why these kids are in the situation that they are living in currently.

 

[theworldismine13]

this is what im saying

i feel like some of yall are misunderstanding that

black families =/= underprivileged black families

this is just the average parent(s) on welfare cause they do menial work and have little to no skills and probably were raised that way too

the whole hope and assumption that people like that will change their ways on "good faith" is just silly

yeah but none of what you are saying changes the fact that a parent is responsible for their childs education, the fact that they may do menial work or have no skills doesnt make you NOT responsible

and no it doesnt mean responsible for teaching specific things like a calculus or how to conjugate a verb, it means the parent is responsible that the child is registered for school and attends schools and encourages their child to do good

 

[MMS]

yeah but none of what you saying changes the fact that a parent is responsible for their childs education, the fact that do menial work or have no skills doesnt make you NOT responsible

and no it doesnt mean responsible for teaching specific things like a calculus or how to conjugate a verb, it means the parent is responsible that the child is registered for school and attends schools and encourages their child to do good

but do you see some of these people? do you really? can you really sit here and say that some of these folks are teaching their kids

peep this vid and look at the kids

[ame=http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhOnSdy4PkJNdZ03i4]Video: Hood Mothers In ATL Get Tased By Security Guard For Acting up In Front Of Children![/ame]

 

[Brown_Pride]

but do you see some of these people? do you really? can you really sit here and say that some of these folks are teaching their kids

peep this vid and look at the kids

Video: Hood Mothers In ATL Get Tased By Security Guard For Acting up In Front Of Children!

yeah but the question is...
If this mother was dependent on those kids getting D's in school in order to receive assistance would she be more inclined to teach them or less?

 

[RC-P90]

i aint so sure the dude that came up with this was driven by a desire to help...i will assume is he genuine but his actions could cause stress and dysfunction within a family already on the margin...

 

[Robbie3000]

yeah but the question is...
If this mother was dependent on those kids getting D's in school in order to receive assistance would she be more inclined to teach them or less?

Are you going to make the kid's nutritional needs dependent on this mother?

 

[MMS]

yeah but the question is...
If this mother was dependent on those kids getting D's in school in order to receive assistance would she be more inclined to teach them or less?

she might not teach them per se

but she'll whoop that ass if they come home and she get a call from school on some "ur son was disruptive in class"

when he go back he listened and maybe absorb that information

 

[PewPew]

Breh, I come from a similar immigrant background. Don't be so arrogant just cause your family was able to make it. How many of your family and country men are still stuck in squalor that they can't escape?

Are African people stupid and lazy cause there is a lot of poverty in African countries?

The fact is for whatever reason, your parents were more motivated than 99% of people that they grew up with just as my parents were. And you were fukking lucky. Don't take your good fortune as an excuse to shyt on other poor people without fully appreciating the full breadth of why these kids are in the situation that they are living in currently.

Fair enough, but thats not what i meant at all. I was telling @88m3 that I do understand the meaning of struggle because I grew up piss poor. Im not looking down on anyone.

But I still stand by my belief that I don't think it's too much to ask parents to make sure their own kids pass school. I do understand every family has their own situation but if we're getting mad at such a tiny request, what will we do when they pass a law demanding a lot more.

Im not making light of anyone's situation, simply saying that getting a D- in middle and high school isn't asking for much. Especially when your family's source of food is tied to it.

 

[theworldismine13]

but do you see some of these people? do you really? can you really sit here and say that some of these folks are teaching their kids

peep this vid and look at the kids

Video: Hood Mothers In ATL Get Tased By Security Guard For Acting up In Front Of Children!

i dont understand, i just actually agreed with you that parents cant teach their children certain subjects

i was just trying to explain what it means to say that parents are responsible for their childs education

what does that video prove? if those women are not taking responsibility for their childs education then they arent, maybe their welfare check should be reduced by 30 percent

but either way the parent is responsible for a child's education, that is what society is based on, when a parent doesnt take responsibility you have a breakdown in society

 

[Will Ross]

I think it is a damn good idea

 

[MMS]

if it was me

id say threaten food stamps if they arent in school(no grade penalty tho)

if they are not in school, forced foster care + removal of welfare

 

[88m3]

was that a response to me? it really didn't address the anything. It went on a tangent about how shyt was when you were a kid.

So if a parent has to focus on become a productive member of society then asking them to parent and be their for their kids is too much? OR Asking a kid to produce at a minimum D's while ALSO becoming a productive member of society? You're full of shyt on either count.

If you have to worry about keeping your kid "passing" even with the parents there holding their hands that's not always the case or the reality. Why are there parents in this position? How many children do that have? If that's their only incentive to get what they "need".... I just don't see it being a positive force in driving them to do something with their own lives.

Then you think contrary to both how it WAS done and how it IS done and how it SHOULD BE done. You're wrong on all counts. A child's education is as much the responsibility of the parents as it is the education system.

Maybe you can make a push for home schooling in your home state.

First off they learn by being involved. Kids, believe it or not, DO NOT LIKE SCHOOL by and large. They go because they have to. Parents make them, except when they don't and those are really the kids at the heart of this issue, kids who aren't involved because they are not made to do so and as kids are often not equipped to make decisions that will later their futures...such as going to school.
Pushing kids through the system is an entirely different topic...make that thread if you'd like.

Children should want to learn they should want to go school. You and the law are saying a D- is "good enough".

Me too. I was a latchkey kid as much as the next guy, BUT I also had my moms and pops checking homework, as they should have. There seams to be some deeper rooted issues here with you and this topic.

Just sharing the way people in my age group grew up.

AMEN! I couldn't agree with you more. Letting your kids do whatever the fuk they want in terms of their education is the epitome of coddling. Pretending your kids are adults and not children is coddling, forcing your kid to do what's best for them in spite of their vast experience is parenting homeboy.

They aren't doing whatever they want lmao. Is that what you think school is? Doing whatever you want? Some of the best things I could have possibly learned were by pushing myself outside of my boundaries and first hand experiences. You can teach anyone to replicate something but can they make anything for themselves?

OIC you're one of "those". I'm a parent of the "i'll stick my foot in your ass generation" huge difference. I also know kids are prone to mistakes as they are not always equipped to make the right choices. That's the reason we don't hold them accountable for some of their actions as stringently as we do adults. THEY ARE FUKIN KIDS. You, on the other hand, think a 6 -17 year old is of complete sound and mind and experience to make life changing decisions, ones that alter their future.

Old enough to make mistakes old enough to starve and be sent to shelters. Terrific!

Got it!

 

[GoPro]

Are you going to make the kid's nutritional needs dependent on this mother?

SHOULDN'T IT BE?! SHOULDN'T THE bytch THAT BROUGHT THAT KID INTO THE WORLD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR NOURISHING THAT LITTLE MOTHER fukkER? WTF IS WRONG WITH SOME OF YOU?! GOT DAMN!

Thats why these roaches have kids to begin with, so they can start collecting from Big Daddy government.