TN Repub state Senator wants to tie welfare benefits to kids' academic performance

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I'm not one of those that think welfare is a waste of money but I definitely you should have to put some effort in for free money.
 

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Starving them and possibly forcing them out of their homes on the other hand.

Not such a big deal.


I'm not trolling or anything of the sort in here either btw

you are such a compassionate individual, its :to: to see you trying to stop the starvation of children in TN that are getting F's in every class

what is shaniqua and mary jo lou gonna do without the $50 bucks, they are gonna starve to death!!!! and these heartless people dont care :noah:
 

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now i'm convinced you're trolling
do you see forever giving them free food as an incentive?
Who is responsible for the education of a child?
gotta be honest i'm not really even sure wtf you're talking about at this point in time :manny:
Like it or not kids don't always make the best of choices, that's what parents are supposed to be there for. To guide them. What role do parents play in your version of parenting? Food, shelter, bus money? :rudy:
Do you have kids?

If the alternative to not subsidizing them is children suffer, I'm fine with families having free food and housing.

My hardline on the subject will never happen so this is where I stand.

I'm not saying children don't need parents. Parents have a role to fulfill in their child's development obviously, schools also have their role to fullfil.

A parents role in their child's life? To do the best they can for the child so that they can succeed.


I can tell this is important to you, a few eighteen and nineteen year olds call me tio
 

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nigguhs in here fronting like they care about the grades kids in tn make...yall just hoping bytches get they benefits cut...nigguhs scared to just say how they feel because someone might expose them for being a hypocrite and a dumb ass...dont worry aint too many here smart enough to excoriate yall weak declarations...
 

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Yes. I'm going to place the responsibility on a mother to feed her kids.
Do you have problem with that. Who's responsibility is it to feed their kids?

If they cannot feed them then maybe they shouldn't have them no? Isn't that how it normally works?


Like another poster said, we are arguing in the dark here. How many of these kids on welfare actually have a gpa lower than 1.0? I mean how much of a problem is this really for the 100,000 + families that are on welfare? Is that the best metric to evaluate parenting?

Or is this as most of us suspect, just another stereotypically based ploy meant to humiliate people who receive public assistance? Just like the drug testing scheme that failed in Florida.

For all we know, this state senator thought of this idea while shytting on the toilet one morning and introduced it without an iota of data to even support his premise.
 

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what comprehensive plan will ever exist? None. That's a problem. This does something, which IMHO is better than nothing. Like Obamacare, it's a move in the right direction, not a complete solution.

:rudy: damn you sound so broken down and beaten right here

and obamacare is a comprehensive plan, the two are nothing alike :stopitslime:
 

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I havnt read all the responses, but doesnt it seem odd that hes trying to use the guise of caring about student grade levels the issue when in fact hes directly tying it soley to parents who are on welfare?

Whats he proposing to do with the kids who arent doing well in school but whose parents arent on welfare?

Classicism at its finest.

I just cant get enough of the hypocrisy of conservatives. I believe in smaller goverment!!!! Stay out of my life and pockets!!!!! I have a right to my guns!!!!


But those people on welfare? Ill use more goverment regulations to impose on there rights because there not like me, so its ok.
 

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I love how people get enraged about attacks on social welfare when it's has an obvious racist agenda

What about the non welfare kids that don't make the acceptable grade? Should there parents be disallowed to take some tax cuts?

So If the kids don't make the grades they should have less to eat :what:

How do people like @Brown Pride, @MMSex and @Will Ross

Ignore the fact that everyone can't have a job that pays them a livable wage? In order for capitalism to work somebody has to be making pennies

Be er mind the obvious fact that wages are not keeping with cost of living
 
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I havnt read all the responses, but doesnt it seem odd that hes trying to use the guise of caring about student grade levels the issue when in fact hes directly tying it soley to parents who are on welfare?

Whats he proposing to do with the kids who arent doing well in school but whose parents arent on welfare?

Classicism at its finest.

I just cant get enough of the hypocrisy of conservatives. I believe in smaller goverment!!!! Stay out of my life and pockets!!!!! I have a right to my guns!!!!


But those people on welfare? Ill use more goverment regulations to impose on there rights because there not like me, so its ok.

Nothing. This has less to do with improving school performance and more to do with humiliating people receiving public assistance.

He has made a huge leap in assuming that there is this large group of kids who are failing in school and most of them must obviously be on welfare. Although he offers no data to support his position.
 

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Nothing. This has less to do with improving school performance and more to do with humiliating people receiving public assistance. He has made a huge leap in assuming that there is this large group of kids who are failing in school and most of them must obviously be on welfare. Although he offers no data to support his position.

I'm all for humiliating people into spending time doing homework with their kids, making sure their food stamps are being used to supply a nutritious breakfast and attending PTA meetings...

Plus it's just looking out for your investment.. If you are going to suck off of the tax payers tittay.. The least you can do is raise a child that will one day be in the position to be a tax payer themselves...

Nobody is making you take welfare.. It's not a basic human right...
 

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He also had this little nugget of wisdom to add.

State Senator Stacey Campfield (R-Knoxville) is making national headlines for an interview he gave on Sirius XM radio.

On the Michelangelo Signorile Show, the Knoxville senator said that homosexuality is harmful and that the HIV epidemic came from a single gay airline employee having sexual relations with a monkey.

He explained that he believes that HIV was started by the homosexual community.

"My understanding... is that virtually, if not completely impossible, to contract AIDS outside of blood transfusions through heterosexual sex. It's virtually impossible," Senator Campfield said on the show.

The Knox County Health Department Director, Dr. Martha Buchanan, and AIDS educator Wayne Smith both said his comments have been proven false. Smith called them "archaic."

"It increases the confusion and the fear when people are giving the wrong information. People need to know the facts and understand the facts," Dr. Buchanan said.

"It's hard to believe that anybody could say those things, believe those things to be true when we know they're not. Especially an elected official," said Smith.

10News sat down with the senator where he confirmed his statements, but said it was taken out of context. He said that he acknowledges that heterosexuals can contract the virus. He meant that certain groups are at much higher risk for AIDS.

"A lot of people trying to gloss over and say it's an every person disease but really it's just those high risk people that are most likely to contract or spread that disease The odds of a regular man getting it from a regular woman are very low," he said.

We asked, "What do you mean by 'regular?'"

He said, "someone who is not from Africa, someone who is not a homosexual, someone who is not an IV drug user, someone who is not sleeping with someone who is one of those things."


Senator Campfield sees nothing wrong with his answers.

"I didn't say I was a gay/AIDS historian. I didn't say I know the facts backwards and forwards I just said what I've heard and the facts back me up," he said.

AIDS Educator Wayne Smith says the facts do not back him up. He's taught classes to take away the stigma of the disease for 15 years and calls Campfield's comments a setback.

"Until things like this happen, then I get in this mode where I feel like we've made a lot of progress," Smith said.

Dr. Buchanan said anyone having unprotected sex can contract HIV.

"In other countries where the virus is much more prevalent, you see just as many cases in heterosexuals as you do in homosexuals," she said.

While the virus did originate in a monkey, the CDC and World Health Organization confirm people contracted the virus through hunting.

Sen. Campfield went on the radio program to talk about his also controversial "Don't Say Gay" bill which would make It illegal for teachers to talk about homosexuality to students.
 

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im fine with attendence not grading tho.

if you show up every day no one's going to fail you....havent read through this thread but im sure that's what theyre trying to get at.
 
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