Time To End The Narrative That Jay-Z Was Never The Top Rapper In The Game
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No you didn't.
1994-1995, Biggie and Coolio were selling around the same amount of copies based on the certs. Biggie had a double platinum album, two platinum single, and a gold single during that period. Biggie= 4.5 million in 1994-1995. And that's just Biggie solo. Coolio had one platinum album (It Takes A Thief) , a platinum single (Fanstastic Voyage), and a double platinum single. Coolio= 4 million. The Gangsta's Paradise album went double platinum in Spring 1996 as it dropped late 1995. The single went double platinum in 1995, but didn't go triple until 1996. Mind you, Biggie was doing those numbers with one album within one year.
As for Pac, he had MATW, which went double platinum and "Dear Mama" which went platinum. If we extend it to 1996, Coolio had a double platinum album by then and a single that did another mill, which puts them about even. Pac doesn't pass him until All Eyez On Me, which was 3 million sold when he died. "How Do You Want It"/"California Love" was 2X platinum as a single on August 6, 1996.
African Peasant
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Jay never reigned supreme in any era.
He was ALWAYS there among the biggest but he never became the biggest.
2003: 50 was bigger after Nelly started going down.
98: DMX was bigger.
Jay fans need to accept that.
This is another attempt to rewrite history in Jay's favor.
He was ALWAYS there among the biggest but he never became the biggest.
2003: 50 was bigger after Nelly started going down.
98: DMX was bigger.
Jay fans need to accept that.
This is another attempt to rewrite history in Jay's favor.
So who was bigger from 99 to 02?
Eminem, DMX, Nelly
Mike the Executioner
What went on up there? Poppers and weird sex!
I want to say it was a combination of things: Him being white, his association with Dre, and his content. When he came out, that was when South Park, Jerry Springer, and WWF were huge. He fit right into that era because he was saying things that nobody had heard before from a mainstream rapper.
I agree with a lot of The Coli's criticisms on Eminem, but he wouldn't have lasted long if he was just a novelty rapper. He had to earn his stripes to get any kind of respect or longevity.
African Peasant
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Em does count.
Jay wasn't bigger than Nelly.
Nelly was a storm.
Em and Nelly were bigger than Jay during that period.
Jay lowkey admitted that himself: "Only dudes movin' units: Em Pimp Juice and us".
Em and Nelly were moving more than him tho. But he was right there just after them. So he was big. But not the biggest.
Em does count and no Jay was not
There is no need to re-write history. Ya'll nyqqas still talking about individual years?
But just for kicks tell me this...if DMX was bigger, why was the ensuing tour called the "Hard Knock Life Tour"? Seems weird to name the tour after the second hottest rapper on the tours album
There is no need to re-write history. Ya'll nyqqas still talking about individual years?
But just for kicks tell me this...if DMX was bigger, why was the ensuing tour called the "Hard Knock Life Tour"? Seems weird to name the tour after the second hottest rapper on the tours album
Because the tour was initially launched & financed by Rocafella. Did you not watch Backstage? Def Jam
got on board later on. It was started by Rocafella who got the rest in line with them.
Also, the song was a pop mainstream hit. Doesnt mean that Jay himself was bigger. His song was a bigger mainstream
hit than what X had at the time but X as an artist was reveared more until about '01.
Yeah I saw Backstage. Your explanation still doesn't make sense. If YOU are the hottest rapper, then you do your own tour. You don't join a "lesser" musical acts tour. The fact is in '98, neither was significantly bigger than the other.
African Peasant
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There is no need to re-write history. Ya'll nyqqas still talking about individual years?
We're talking about different eras with the rapper that was on top of the game. A year can be that time period. Why not?
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But just for kicks tell me this...if DMX was bigger, why was the ensuing tour called the "Hard Knock Life Tour"? Seems weird to name the tour after the second hottest rapper on the tours album
Ask Def Jam Marketing department.
Do you think Dre and Snopp were bigger than Eminem when the Up In Smoke Tour kicked because it was not called the Eminem Tour?
Real
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Lmao @ narrative.
That aint no narrative. Just the opinion of stans
That aint no narrative. Just the opinion of stans
That argument is out of the blue. How many indie tours did u see major label artists have before that? It wasnt that X couldnt tour but that would mean RR would've had to bank it and being that they were fresh i doubt they had that amont of money. Labels set up tours.
As big as Pac, Snoop and nem were why didnt they do tours? U tellin me Jay was bigger than them?
It isnt like Jay would sell arenas had he went dolo.