Time To End The Narrative That Jay-Z Was Never The Top Rapper In The Game

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I hated this song then and I still don’t like it but let’s keep it real in the field

X was crankin out album carrying singles with less help

no Annie sample
No UGK
No Beyonce
Without the best producers of the past 25 years

Just him & Swizz for the most part :yeshrug:
 

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Jay was dropping 2 albums in a within year from 97-2003. Sometimes with a 10 month turnaround. Jay never let his albums breathe back then. It cannibalize his sales. Dynasty came out Halloween 2000 than Blueprint come out 11 months later. So if really being technical jay sold more records in 2001. Jay was dropping albums in less than a year or like a month over a year for 7 years straight. Which is like today era type shyt. Ja was scorching hot 1 album and that’s it.


one album??

jarule dropped back-2-back triple platinum albums a year apart from each other.

from strictly a commercial standpoint, i would say that only nelly & eminem were bigger than jarule in '01-02.
 

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Both albums certified triple platinum after a calendar year of their release

either say you don’t know or don’t quote me lying poorly
Certifications are not reflective of actual saleS. It’s based off the label sending in the necessary information.

me against the world is at 2x plat in As of dec of 95. It’s no fukking way that album not double if not triple that now.

bp2 was 3x plat after a month and it never sold no more after that

those certs not the end all be all.

my point vol 3 came out dec 28 1999
Dynasty came out oct 31 2000
Blueprint sept 11 2001

that’s 3 albums in less than 2 years
If I went further he dropped 5 albums within 3 years if include that R Kelly album from dec 99- nov 2002
 
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no Annie sample
No UGK
No Beyonce
Without the best producers of the past 25 years

Just him & Swizz for the most part :yeshrug:


ehh. lets no rewrite history.

UGK werent stars at all. jay couldve threw anybody on "big pimpin" and it wouldve had the same success. he couldve threw that group Dirty on there.(edit: they came out a year later, but still).

swizz beatz was one of the most popular producers in the game when DMX was at his peak.
 

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one album??

jarule dropped back-2-back triple platinum albums a year apart from each other.

from strictly a commercial standpoint, i would say that only nelly & eminem were bigger than jarule in '01-02.
I shouldn’t said one album. 336 was steady big dog. But pain is love was a monster out the gate. And that was his peak.
 
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ehh. lets no rewrite history.

UGK werent stars at all. jay couldve threw anybody on "big pimpin" and it wouldve had the same success. he couldve threw that group Dirty on there.(edit: they came out a year later, but still).

swizz beatz was one of the most popular producers in the game when DMX was at his peak.

Swizz is one man

ye, timb, just, Neptune’s are more than one

By your logic Jay could have put anybody on Big Pimpin and it would have been a success southern reach be damned

could’ve just put bleek on it then
 

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Saw somebody in here say Jay wasn't bigger than Nelly.... Nelly went diamond, i can't listen to nothing else dude said
 

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By your logic Jay could have put anybody on Big Pimpin and it would have been a success southern reach be damned


plenty of southern rappers he couldve threw on there.

the southern reach aint even really a factor. big pimpin was a huge crossover smash with white folks.
unless UGK came up with the hook or something, theyre pretty much expendable on this record. they never even had a hit by themselves.
 
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