TikTok is one step closer to being banned in the USA

[Hood Critic]

Censorship?

Of a foreign product? That's well within the purview of the US government to limit access to anything it feels is a danger to its citizens or national security.

Just like certain food products are not allowed here or abroad..come on y'all - I get some of you are anti government/establishment but you can't be serious with these arguments.

 

[Hood Critic]

Meta had an anti TikTok lobbying and marketing campaign.

Facebook Parent Company Defends Its PR Campaign to Portray TikTok as Threat to American Children

Meta defended its enlistment of political lobbying firm Targeted Victory to plant negative stories about rival TikTok in U.S. news outlets.

variety.com

US companies own the internet outside of China. TikTok is the first threat to that dominance, and so those companies responded by doing this shyt.

You're not wrong but that can also be true in parallel with the concept of a foreign owned platform being a potential national security threat.

Everything is not black and white.

 

[mastermind]

And if that hosting were to be taken away, it does not end nor limit tik tok. Part of the reason that foreign vehicles are assembled here is so that assembly can be regulated by the US.

Fam, you're smarter than this.

I’m not sure that’s even a major part. I’d bet there are tax benefits and cheaper costs to assembly.

Still, the US can regulate TikTok in the same way EU regulates US internet companies. I’m not Buying this foreign ownership argument.

 

[Hood Critic]

I’m not sure that’s even a major part. I’d bet there are tax benefits and cheaper costs to assembly.

Again, both can be true.

Still, the US can regulate TikTok in the same way EU regulates US internet companies. I’m not Buying this foreign ownership argument.

The EU and the US have trade agreements that they do not have with the People's Republic.

 

[mastermind]

You're not wrong but that can also be true in parallel with the concept of a foreign owned platform being a potential national security threat.

Everything is not black and white.

I dont believe TikTok is a bigger natsec threat than Google, Amazon and Facebook. I don’t think any of arguing this are anti-government/establishment types either since we are all arguing for more regulation of social media and the internet which is pro-government.

 

[Hood Critic]

I dont believe TikTok is a bigger natsec threat than Google, Amazon and Facebook. I don’t think any of arguing this are anti-government/establishment types either since we are all arguing for more regulation of social media and the internet which is pro-government.

You very well may not be wrong in this line of thinking but guess what, the US government has the power to limit or abolish the functionality of each of those and any other American owned company.

No sane sovereign nation on the planet would allow their adversary to have unfettered access to deliver or retrieve information to their citizens. Which is why China rightfully has banned US based social media and the largest aggregator of data, Google, from being used by their citizens.

 

[mastermind]

The EU and the US have trade agreements that they do not have with the People's Republic.

Ok, but they still have to operate within those confines. The EU fines tiktok last year over not following their regulations and opened up another probe this year.

 

[Hood Critic]

You all are looking at this from the wrong perspective - imagine the Chinese government allowing its citizens to subscribe to the Washington Post or New York Times with no control or agreement on what either publication can print about the Chinese government or its people.

This isn't rocket science, its basic geopolitics and natsec. It also isn't a new conversation since the US intel community has been pointing this out since tik tok's inception and rise in popularity.

 

[Hood Critic]

Ok, but they still have to operate within those confines. The EU fines tiktok last year over not following their regulations and opened up another probe this year.

They "fined" them, meaning they had an agreement that was being violated.

 

[mastermind]

No sane sovereign nation on the planet would allow their adversary to have unfettered access to deliver or retrieve information to their citizens. Which is why China rightfully has banned US based social media and the largest aggregator of data, Google, from being used by their citizens.

I don’t believe that’s why China banned those companies And they had deals with Google in the past.

China banned those companies because they wanted their own companies to prosper.

 

[mastermind]

This isn't rocket science, its basic geopolitics and natsec.

thats what a lot of us have been saying

 

[Hood Critic]

I don’t believe that’s why China banned those companies And they had deals with Google in the past.

China banned those companies because they wanted their own companies to prosper.

Of course they did but they also didn't want people searching things like is Taiwan a sovereign nation or a part of the Peoples Republic.

 

[Hood Critic]

thats what a lot of us have been saying

That's not at all what you're saying if you think the US government is doing this strictly for profit or to solely control the narrative of what Americans see.

 

[nyknick]

Of a foreign product? That's well within the purview of the US government to limit access to anything it feels is a danger to its citizens or national security.

Just like certain food products are not allowed here or abroad..come on y'all - I get some of you are anti government/establishment but you can't be serious with these arguments.

We're in agreement.

Just like China's banning of Google and Facebook this is mostly done for censorship reasons. Lets not pretend that the government is forcing the sale of TikTok because it's dangerous to its citizens. It is a national security threat only in the sense that it wont toe the line and follow orders like American companies.

The reason Toyota has factories in the US is not so assembly can be regulated by the US, it's done in order to protect the American auto industry. It is strictly protectionist and understandable because otherwise the whole industry would fall apart because Big Three fukk ups can't keep up with the Japanese.

They got children working in Hyundai plants, Boeing airplanes glued together with soap dish, nobody's regulating any assembly

 

[mastermind]

Of course they did but they also didn't want people searching things like is Taiwan a sovereign nation or a part of the Peoples Republic.

Iirc, they had an agreement with Google just for that.