This could be us...but Americans love $700 car payments

[NoMorePie]

meanwhile in USA and Canada.

 

[feelosofer]

Not feasible based on what?

MOST cities in the US can do it

We can't even get an infrastructure bill to pass as drivers are just popping their tires on America's crumbling highways and riding under turn of the century subway systems. To say nothing of the various states of inefficiency of public transport depending on the state.

Like America is a country that thinks engineering and infrastructure is liberal.

 

[maxamusa]

I don't live in San Antonio, maxamu

Neither do I.

Texas is bigger than Europe.

You aint biking nowhere in that TX heat with that distance FOH

 

[klientel]

we still have more paved bike paths than the netherlands does.
they are comparing infrastructure for 17 million to 600 million.

Right they are comparing a country the size of a Maryland to the US and wondering why shyt is different.

 

[Remote]

Neither do I.

Texas is bigger than Europe.

You aint biking nowhere in that TX heat with that distance FOH

You can bike anywhere within any city or town with the proper infrastructure.
Size has always been a stupid argument.

Studies have repeatedly shown that something like 70% of all car trips taken are less than 5km. That's an incredibly easily bike-able distance.
Seventy percent.

Saying "nobody is going to ride a bike from San Antonio to Houston" as an argument for the car, is just as stupid as saying "nobody is going to drive a car from Alaska to Florida" as an argument for the airplane.

All modes of transportation should be viable.

 

[African Peasant]

Not feasible to do it for half a billion people. Netherlands only has 17 million people.
We have bike transit for more people than that already from a pure numbers perspective.
Mile for mile there are more bike lanes in america than there are in the netherlands.
Your complaint is why can't we do it for 600 million people? My answer is they can't do it for 600 million people either.

It's a city per city infrastructure, why are you bringing up that irrelevant country population argument again?

 

[Savvir]

The issue isn’t the people buying cars. They are merely doing what they need to do to function with the current infrastructure.

 

[maxamusa]

You can bike anywhere within any city or town with the proper infrastructure.
Size has always been a stupid argument.

Studies have repeatedly shown that something like 70% of all car trips taken are less than 5km. That's an incredibly easily bike-able distance.
Seventy percent.

Saying "nobody is going to ride a bike from San Antonio to Houston" as an argument for the car, is just as stupid as saying "nobody is going to drive a car from Alaska to Florida" as an argument for the airplane.

All modes of transportation should be viable.

Its not stoopid. if you were American you would understand you can't cycle everywhere in this country.


We are not some small city.

 

[cheek100]

Some of us carry tools

 

[Still Benefited]

Your right about the car payments and transportation being fukked up. But why the leap to bikes?

 

[Remote]

Its not stoopid. if you were American you would understand you can't cycle everywhere in this country.


We are not some small city.

I am american you dweeb.
The point isn't to cycle anywhere. Are you even listening?

 

[Robbie3000]

We you realize we have states that are bigger than entire countries, you understand why we will never be a nation of cyclists.
I'm assuming that's the netherlands. Maryland is bigger than their entire country.

But it hasn’t always been like this. Look up old pictures of Atlanta, Houston and other southern cities and they look like Manhattan. We purposely turned our cities in to Car lots .

 

[maxamusa]

I am american you dweeb.
The point isn't to cycle anywhere. Are you even listening?

How can "this be us" where its literally impossible. explain.


aint u a crippled ass handicap van breh anyway? where TF you cycling



u mad you can't push the peddles n breaks

 

[klientel]

You can bike anywhere within any city or town with the proper infrastructure.
Size has always been a stupid argument.

Studies have repeatedly shown that something like 70% of all car trips taken are less than 5km. That's an incredibly easily bike-able distance.
Seventy percent.

Saying "nobody is going to ride a bike from San Antonio to Houston" as an argument for the car, is just as stupid as saying "nobody is going to drive a car from Alaska to Florida" as an argument for the airplane.

All modes of transportation should be viable.

It’s so weird to just throw that out there with zero context and use that to support an argument

How many of those trips have things in the car that aren’t practical for a bike? Groceries, tools, packages, luggage etc

How many of those trips are people with kids? You want to ride a bike lane in a damn city with kids? Good luck

How many of those trips are done in the heat, cold, or rain?

How many of those trips are multiple stops and errands in different parts of the city.

You can’t just throw an arbitrary number out there without proper context.

 

[Remote]

The issue isn’t the people buying cars. They are merely doing what they need to do to function with the current infrastructure.

This is fair.

That said....
People need to admit that this current infrastructure wasn't always here.

We didn't always have these big gaps between towns and cities.
We didn't always have this infrastructure system that made cycling and public transit less viable.

Right?
This is historical fact.

So everyone who says "we can't do these cycling or train" things has to acknowledge that the reason we can't do them is NOT because the country is large. It's because the infrastructure for those things was purposely destroyed by the car industry.