This could be us...but Americans love $700 car payments

num123

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We you realize we have states that are bigger than entire countries, you understand why we will never be a nation of cyclists.
I'm assuming that's the netherlands. Maryland is bigger than their entire country.
That makes no sense. The point is that cities can be made much more safer and efficient with more planning for bike traffic. The Netherlands in the 70's looked a lot like America with the amount of cars it had on the road in cities, but they changed it for more bike and pedestrian/public transportation and have been doing good since.

Even in the early 20th century a bunch of American cities had light rail/Street cars/ Trolleys before they were ripped out for more cars:






 

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I'm pro transit and walkable neighborhoods but I can't co sign this pro bicycle shyt lol


Who is trying to ride a bike in Florida or Arizona during the summer :mjlol: By the time you get to your destination you are gonna be a hot sweaty mess.
Florida is the flattest state in America.
There might be no state in the country that needs bicycle infrastructure MORE than Florida.
 

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We need more. There's not enough. No one is saying bike state to state. But there should be way more walkable/bikeable neighborhoods within cities. There's very few in America and majority are expensive AF
People online always make this mistake where they think it's either cars or bicycles.

It's BOTH.
 

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Americans as a collective are regressive. They hate different ways of thinking. They love spending their money on gas guzzlers. They have held back progress just to cling to an aging way of life.
Country of sitting.
Sit in some gas guzzler for an hourly work commute to go sit in some office chair for 8 hours. Sit in the gas guzzler for another hour back home to eat and go sit on the couch to watch Netflix til bed. Rinse repeat
 

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My point is we plenty of places like this in our country. But we not going to get the credit of Netherlands because unlike them its not feasible for us to do it for the majority of our country. You want like they live in the netherlands move to Cambrige MA
Not feasible based on what?

MOST cities in the US can do it
 

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Not feasible based on what?

MOST cities in the US can do it
Not feasible to do it for half a billion people. Netherlands only has 17 million people.
We have bike transit for more people than that already from a pure numbers perspective.
Mile for mile there are more bike lanes in america than there are in the netherlands.
Your complaint is why can't we do it for 600 million people? My answer is they can't do it for 600 million people either.
 

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We you realize we have states that are bigger than entire countries, you understand why we will never be a nation of cyclists.
I'm assuming that's the netherlands. Maryland is bigger than their entire country.

at one point the united states was at the forefront of cycling infrastructure. cycling is the reason we first had paved roads not cars.
 

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and I’m not getting on no damn bus or metro. :mjlol:
You are lucky to have the option of both. In my Florida suburb there's only buses and the service is :trash: especially from the perspective of someone who came from NYC. Like the bus routes run once an hour THE WHOLE DAY, NO bump in frequencies for rush hour :francis:


Crazy how most of the U.S has such snobby view of public transportation. In NYC celebrities and such be riding public transit. Even in the NY Tri State Area in certain suburbs people with a decent income won't touch the local buses with a ten foot pole but will ride the commuter rail trains (LIRR and Metro North for example). Westchester county you never see white collar office worker types on the Bee Line bus but you always see them on Metro North.
 

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at one point the united states was at the forefront of cycling infrastructure. cycling is the reason we first had paved roads not cars.
we still have more paved bike paths than the netherlands does.
they are comparing infrastructure for 17 million to 600 million.
 
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