Things Kanye West needs to quit doing at this point in his career

[Air Nikes N Hats]

Exactly.

I feel like Kanye does things for the sake of doing them. Critics and stans will label it groundbreaking regardless and he knows it.

IMO, Late Registration is the last album where he organically took a huge leap forward. Everything after seems forced. The albums that came after were all trendy and borrowed elements from whatever was hot at the time. With Graduation, sonically it combined what DJ Toomp and Timbaland were doing back in 2006 (Toomp's stadium anthem production on T.I.'s "What You Know About That" and Tim's work with Nelly/JT). 808's was autotuned , which was huge bsck in 2008. MBDFT takes elements from each of the previous Kanye albums, it just features some of the biggest artists in music.

Agreed, especially with the MBDTF!! Adding to what you said about that album.....the feeling from that album for me....he's on his indie rock shyt. Keep in mind hes been saying for some time he doesnt really listen to hip-hop, and he spent a great deal of time bigging up a lot of indie acts (Bon Iver, and there were others but cant remember at the moment)

 

[RTF]

Kanye's always had "hot" artists on his album.

CD was Roc'd out.
LR had Paul Wall man. T-Pain Graduation etc. Jeezy 808's etc.


Toomp's T.I. stuff was not stadium anthem ish. Kanye took Toomp's shyt and made it stadium status.

 

[ZEB WALTON]

fantasy was a dope album but he been on cruise since, not worried tho

 

[Harry B]

Influence and being first is not the same thing. OB4CL wasn't first with mafioso rap, but it had bigger influence than Kool G ever had on the rap game. And everyone has their own opinions and I don't co-sign all the things media sources said about it's impact and influence, but a lot of it I do. Im not a person who says only one can be influential. Supreme Clientele is one of the most influential albums in hiphop, BP dropped after applying a lot of the things from Supreme Clientele but it's still very influential. I'm not even gonna speak anymore, you nikkas know that all I'm doing is saying what I've read and observed. Imma let the internets speak.

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1.It doesn't get much more influential than The Throne. As Jay-Z and Kanye West move, the culture follows. The duo's ambitiously avant-guard joint LP, Watch the Throne should be no different. "That !! cray"—Kanye's addictive line off of "niccas in Paris"—has already become the new slang word du jour. XXL forecasts the rest of the year and predicts five trends WTT is likely to start.—XXL Staff

Cray” and Drake’s “YOLO” were the two most overused words by white girls in 2012. Only Kanye could create a word that means “crazy” by just dropping the “z.” “That shyt cray” was played out months ago, but it’s one of the most popular pop culture slang phrases of the past decade. It’s right up there with “fanute,” “slime,” “gas,” “fly,” “mobbin’” and the other two thousand words I probably forgot.

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We’re familiar with “American Exceptionalism,” but The Throne put Black Exceptionalism to the forefront on Watch The Throne.

You can browse the internet and read magazines for more.

 

[Gifted one]

Bringing up magazine articles written by Elliot Wilson who is probably the biggest Jay stan on this planet to prove your argument, I seriously think Kanye and Jay is paying this guy

 

[ROFL_GUY]

post a classic jay or kanye verse from the last

5 yrs

5 damn years should be able to go pages deep of classic material....


lets do it

 

[Harry B]

Obviously my biggest stan on this site, is all over my posts as usual. Can't you just disappear or how much do you love me? Really though.


And every quote is from different sources, white, black, hipster, hiphop, pop, ballers, non-music etc.
And I don't think E. Wilson wrote a single one, I'm trying to be unbiased.

 

[mbewane]

For what's it worth, it's true that I'm not really checking for Kanye's prod lately and that's a damn shame, I fear he's letting his rapper side take over...I was actually kind of disappointed by last efforts with beats from other producers tbh, that goes for all albums by producers (like RZA having other producres beats on his album).

I think he kind of got swept in by the spotlight and is enjoying that life, which is cool for him because he's paid his dues, but as a fan I wouldn't mind him stepping a lil bit out of the spotlight and get more behind the boards, kind of like to "refresh" himself. He's been on one hell of a ride these past years and maybe a small break is due.

 

[Real N Quotes]

- rapping over other nikkas beats get back behind the boards nikka and feed us

- that "HAAAAAAAAANHHHHHHHH?" shyt, like he Ying Ying circa 2003 or some shyt

- wifing up strippers/smuts/whores

- distancing himself from my nikka Cudi

- co-signing wack ass ignorant non-rapping ass nikkas just cause they from Chicago

add on

Kanye already told you he lives in another world now...his brain has been infected by s.

 

[Harry B]

For what's it worth, it's true that I'm not really checking for Kanye's prod lately and that's a damn shame, I fear he's letting his rapper side take over...I was actually kind of disappointed by last efforts with beats from other producers tbh, that goes for all albums by producers (like RZA having other producres beats on his album).

I think he kind of got swept in by the spotlight and is enjoying that life, which is cool for him because he's paid his dues, but as a fan I wouldn't mind him stepping a lil bit out of the spotlight and get more behind the boards, kind of like to "refresh" himself. He's been on one hell of a ride these past years and maybe a small break is due.

Or like Dr. Dre having co-producers on all his tracks
I'm kinda disappointed with him not doing Cruel Summer, but as far as him having dudes do different shyt for MBDTF was cool as fukk. Mike Dean is like his Jon Brion or Mel Man. He knows how to arrange, play instruments, engineering etc and the other additional producers did the same thing. Rza and Bink! did one beat each. While he did some collaborations with his mentor which was cool as well imo. He was in Hawaii for like 8 months for MBDTF which was kind of a break. He'll probably disappear for his next solo again, hopefully he does.

As far as WTT went I figured it like it was a collaborative album between him and jay, so for it not to sound like a Kanye West album they got other people and both had influence on production. What we can notice though about Kanye is that if there is real instruments and stuff like that on the song, he'll have co-producers. If it's flipping samples like Otis, he's all alone. So we can't really compare Rza and Kanye Wests productions. If Kanye knew how to arrange a Cello he probably wouldn't have Jeff Bhasker do it.

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He has a few producers on there.

 

[j e s u s ▲]

If this Cruel Summer is bad I'm just gonna give up on Kanye and GOOD Music.

They had the potential to put out some actual good music with people like Q-Tip, Common, Mos Def, Kid Cudi, Kanye (as a producer), John Legend on a hook or two.

Nah, let's release a full album where the lyrics don't mean shyt and have double the amount of Big Sean and 2Chainz instead.

 

[OG Talk]

You can browse the internet and read magazines for more.

Why would you have to do that if you are apart of the culture? Is that where you get your information from?

I'll address all the points that you made so maybe you can be educated....


Kanye didn't create the term "Cray"...That's just a blatant lie by whoever wrote that (probably an out of touch Black person or cac from outside of the culture)...Chicks in the hood have been saying that for YEARS...Philly n!ggas can cosign this.. Infact Kanye isn't even the first artist on the Roc to use the term.. That would be Beans...


Kanye didn't start using the term HAM till years after it was a played out term in the South...As soon as that song dropped it was pretty much the death of it even for the pseudo square n!ggas down bottom...Like the first time Martha Stewart or Barbara Walter said "bling-bling"..

You seem to be confused with introducing these terms to white people in middle America as influence on hip hop culture...

Which is why I asked if you were a young Black guy from the culture...Because if you are, I don't see how you keep taking such stock and getting influence by mass media...

Why are you giving Kanye credit for sparking the concept collab album between two stars when it had already been done before almost a decade earlier (again by someone on his own label) with R. Kelly and Jay? And if that was such a huge influence where are all the projects at? The only thing you have to present is a casual throwaway comment by Chris Rock about a tour that will never happen..

Artists have been doing listening sessions in exclusive locations for members of the media for YEARS before Kanye even signed a record contract....Inviting press to a hotel suite and giving them champagne and shrimp while unveiling a project was a staple during the Bad Boy era....


Kool G Rap was rapping about Balenciaga when I was in elementary..

Nas and Rae were rapping about Balenciaga back when I was in junior high...

And for the current generation Wayne was rapping about Balenciaga 3 years before WTT dropped on Beat Without Bass...

Why doesn't he get any of the credit for it's influence? I mean Carter 4 1st weeks sales almost doubled WTT so you would think by using this weirdo hipster cac logic they would be praising him as a next level fashionista that is influencing the masses...


Kanye is a 35 year old millionaire...Jay is a 45 year old millionaire.. Nothing these dudes are saying, wearing or doing are influencing young Black kids in the inner city at this point..They are the ones that are getting influenced at this point in their career..Their only influence is on people outside of the culture (aka the people that write all these articles you posted)..

What you are doing with them is no different than what Elvis and the Stones were credited with after they sharked Chuck Berry, Fats Domino and Little Richard.. Or someone crediting Wayne for bringing skate culture to Black kids..

It's like waiting till someone with the most popularity does something that has already been done before and then saying "they're influential"... But in this case, most of this shyt has already been done by people as equally popular as them....

 

[DaPresident]

Was never a big fan of Kanye rapping. Always a fan of his production...but he's DEFINITELY won me over with his rapping skills...plus he and Hov went dummy on that "Clique" joint Big Sean was cool but damn, Yeezy and Hov on another level.

Def a fan of him rapping now. Some of the cats he with tho? Yuck




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[Harry B]

I'm not even gonna respond to all that, I'll pick the most interesting parts.

1. C4 didn't influence people the same way C2 or Dedication 2 did. It's not always about sales. BP3 sold a lot more than WTT but besides the two first singles, it didn't have any influence on pop culture, rap culture or anything. As for Wayne, he didn't rap about Balenciaga a broad did it. It wasn't really popping for men back then, just like people been rapping about Louboutin shoes for WOMEN until Pharell, Swizz and Kanye introduced people to the male version. People been rapping about LV for a whole, but there is a reason they call Kanye the LV Don.

2. I believe I said influence is not the same thing as starting something. If that was the case Illmatic and OB4CL didn't have any influence at all. Bringing things to the forefront, making things popular, being the source of peoples reference, no one knows how a few Philly broads pronounced crazy but the whole world know how Kanye did it that is influence in term he might've been influenced by some brother from Philly he saw on youtube. Ask a random dude say from St. Louis what "that shyt cray" is and we'll see if he says it's a term certain philly cats used.

3. The thing about big duos, just sparked all types of rumors, everyone from tip/Jeezy, Drake/Ross etc started talking about doing it after being inspired by Watch The Throne. That's not a major influence, cause it's been done and discussed before, but just bringing back all these discussion was imo worth mentioning.


Again bring shyt back, making shyt hot, creating TRENDS vs someone whispering something or just mentioning it and no one caring are two very different things IMO.

What type of influence did Pac have in your definition? he didn't do shyt no one hadn't done before him. But he did it 10 times better, he made it hot, he created trends, he brought shyt back, he did it on that over level, he made people all over the world care about these points he might've heard from his uncle, clothes he might've heard Rakim mention in a interview to a point where the mou fukking Vatican showed their respect. You need to look up the words influence & impact , cause no one has claimed Jay or Kanye were the first to do anything.

And last like I said the most influential album in recent years isn't saying much, it's not nearly as influential as TM101 for example, I'd put it just ahead of Waka Flockas career as far as hiphop goes but since it had a wider ranger of influence on all levels from the streets to hollywood to hipsters to whoever. And we are in 2012, it's not the good ol days anymore the "hood" is as relevant as jewish suburbs.




Jays and Kanyes influence is probably their biggest assets, that's why cats sleep outside for a pair of nikes or broke nikkas buy $1200 LV sneakers or why Brooklyn Nets want Jay as a partner. And if you can't agree with that..

 

[Dooby]

He needs to stop all this club music. Drop GOOD music completely, a group full of fakkits minus Kanye.

Go back in the lab breh.

Yall don't know my struggle, yall cant match my hustle, you can't catch my hustle, you can't fathom my love dude...
Lock yourself in the basement making 5 beats a day for 3 summers. That's a different world like cree summers, I deserve to do these numbers.



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