Things Kanye West needs to quit doing at this point in his career

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Dressing up money, clothes and hoes swag rap with leather pants, kilts, abstract art, ballet and stadium beats is weak to me...Because at the end of the day it's still just unoriginal swag rap...

People are still sayin "Ye is on that next shyt" Naw Ye is on the same dumb shyt that everyone else is on...He just has a more appealing package to wrap around his bullshyt..

I don't know if you listened to MBDTF (which was his latest album), by reading your posts I assume you haven't listened to anything he has done since his first two years. Cause MBDTF got more love than CD ever got. And could you expand on how any song on there is "swag rap"? :laugh:. Perhaps Hell of A Life and So Appalled commonly named the illest joints on the album.


And as far as unoriginal swag rap. Nah it would be ORIGINAL swag rap and the swag is better than those other dudes trying it WTT > Asap, Wayne and those other dudes albums. And let's not act like most rappers from Nas to Waka flocka didn't have a substantial amount of swag rap on their albums.

No one else is doing it like him (I'm referring to his style), it's his own personality and no one else has done it like he's doing it. I can accept someone who might not be able to handle WTT, it's too much :pacspit: for some cats. But I can't see how anyone can fukk with debut-kanye and not MBDTF Kanye, unless it has to do with personal reasons (#1 trait of a hater) and 90% of the times you're posting about Kanye it has nothing to do with music. Your dislike for his personality has biased your mind in regards to his music. Basically you want him to rap about working at a store, his mother, grand mother when all those things have been gone for a while.
 

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The Good Music compilation might be his first project that he's produced or released that isn't critically acclaimed and the haters are gonna have the times of their life. If these nikkas call MBDTF wack and swag rap, imagine what their gonna call Cruel Summer. Worst album of all time? :troll:
 

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If you're gonna call people that criticize certain artists "haters"... Isn't it fair that we should label people that refuse to criticize an artist "stans"?

I'll be that, if you'll be that and we can get back to discussing the actual topics without the ad hominem as a cop out..Your argument should be strong enough to stand on its own....
 

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If you're gonna call people that criticize certain artists "haters"... Isn't it fair that we should label people that refuse to criticize an artist "stans"?

I'll be that, if you'll be that and we can get back to discussing the actual topics without the ad hominem as a cop out..Your argument should be strong enough to stand on its own....
I'm calling you a hater for 1 reason though, not your whole argument.
For you always talking about Kanye in a negative manner and 90% of the time it's unrelated to music. So I assume you don't like his character, and therefore not liking his music either ie hating.

I don't like Kanye's character, I'm indifferent to it.
But I enjoy his music, I would be a Kanye stan if I loved 808s like a lot of people do, if I called WTT 5/5 album which a lot of people do, if I called Graduation a 5/5 album like probably millions of people did back then.

But I can't rock with you hating on MBDTF calling it artistic gucci mane, swag rap. And enjoying College Dropout. It sounds like a true hater, like the people saying they like Illmatic but anything after that is underachievement, fake gangsta rap and dumb smart social commentary Sounds like straight hating to me.
 

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I'm calling you a hater for 1 reason though, not your whole argument.
For you always talking about Kanye in a negative manner and 90% of the time it's unrelated to music. So I assume you don't like his character, and therefore not liking his music either ie hating.

I don't like Kanye's character, I'm indifferent to it.
But I enjoy his music, I would be a Kanye stan if I loved 808s like a lot of people do, if I called WTT 5/5 album which a lot of people do, if I called Graduation a 5/5 album like probably millions of people did back then.

But I can't rock with you hating on MBDTF calling it artistic gucci mane, swag rap. And enjoying College Dropout. It sounds like a true hater, like the people saying they like Illmatic but anything after that is underachievement, fake gangsta rap and dumb smart social commentary Sounds like straight hating to me.



Okay fair enough... You got it out of your system now? Can we continue and get back on topic?
 
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MBDTF is easily his weakest effort lyrically..

coincidence ye wrote more on MBTF than any of his other albums?

hes all flash and no substance... used to be the other way around...

now he tries waaaaaaaaaay to hard to over complicate EVERYTHING and make it seem bigger/more artistic than it is...

songs lack substance lyrical prowess but the video is ARTISTIC! because it has random shyt and ballerinas and other nonsense

all this EXTRA shyt is there so you DONT FOCUS on the actual music and content....

and they eat right out of kanyes hands everytime
 

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MBDTF is easily his weakest effort lyrically..

coincidence ye wrote more on MBTF than any of his other albums?

hes all flash and no substance... used to be the other way around...

now he tries waaaaaaaaaay to hard to over complicate EVERYTHING and make it seem bigger/more artistic than it is...

songs lack substance lyrical prowess but the video is ARTISTIC! because it has random shyt and ballerinas and other bullshyt

all this EXTRA shyt is there so you DONT FOCUS on the actual music and content....

and they eat right out of kanyes hands everytime
He wrote most on LR, every single joint.
He didn't write Gorgeous on MBDTF though that might be why it's lyrically as classic as Jesus Walks (written by the same brother :russ:)

He's trying hard to make shyt dope and as artistic as it IS, real recognize real. The realest critics and artists in the game done realized that shyt, you are in the minority my little white friend. Kanye has always been super artistic specially with Late Registration, but he had different tactics back in the day with CD, he would spend days finding samples to flip instead. Now he spends days coming up with concepts. I appreciate simplicity and complicity, as long as it's dope.

Why would anyone work hard to make shyt "seem" more artistic than it is or he at least tries, sounds stupid as fukk.
And how does Runaway lack substance? :yawn:.
You seem mad that he isn't as simple as 50 or Eminem.

This type of shyt is what I call hating, you are basically saying that he's faking his artistic ways, even though since a kid he's been a designer. You are saying that he thinks he's more artistic than he is (prove it), you're saying that he's trying too hard (do you know him personally?), you are acting as if WTT wasn't released without a fukking video.
 

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I don't know if you listened to MBDTF (which was his latest album), by reading your posts I assume you haven't listened to anything he has done since his first two years. Cause MBDTF got more love than CD ever got. And could you expand on how any song on there is "swag rap"? :laugh:. Perhaps Hell of A Life and So Appalled commonly named the illest joints on the album.

MBDTF will never be better than CD. Not now, not 10 years down the line. Never.

It got more love? it's his most recent album and he is way more popular in music and pop culture, of course it's going to get more love. He has a bigger audience now. This is common sense fam.

The overall music was way better on CD. It was grounded more in reality. He was speaking on some real shyt, not trying to make stadium music. The content was way more serious and real than MBDTF. Fact. Kanye did grow as an artist, but some things he should have never left behind. CD was a masterpiece. The outro alone I would put up against the entire MDBTF. To hear him break down his struggle with getting into the music biz was dope as fukk.

Yeezy is one of my fav. artists at the moment, but you can tell he is forcing a lot of these new records. I wish he would say fukk it and do him. The swag rap shyt gotta go.

I can tell a lot of you nikkas are reactionary fans of music. Yall get hype off the most recent anything. It's sad.
 

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MBDTF will never be better than CD. Not now, not 10 years down the line. Never.

It got more love? it's his most recent album and he is way more popular in music and pop culture, of course it's going to get more love. He has a bigger audience now. This is common sense fam.

The overall music was way better on CD. It was grounded more in reality. He was speaking on some real shyt, not trying to make stadium music. The content was way more serious and real than MBDTF. Fact. Kanye did grow as an artist, but some things he should have never left behind. CD was a masterpiece. The outro alone I would put up against the entire MDBTF. To hear him break down his struggle with getting into the music biz was dope as fukk.

I can tell a lot of you nikkas are reactionary fans of music. Yall get hype off the most recent anything. It's sad.
I agree...Well said...
 
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He wrote most on LR, every single joint.
He didn't write Gorgeous on MBDTF though that might be why it's lyrically as classic as Jesus Walks (written by the same brother :russ:)

He's trying hard to make shyt dope and as artistic as it IS.
Why would anyone work hard to make shyt "seem" more artistic than it is, sounds stupid as fukk.

cause dumfukks who dont know any better go :ooh:

there are to many examples to name them.(1 is the "runanway ".) HRRIBLE song with one of the WORST choruses in the history OF RAP MUSIC-- "lets have a toast to the douchebags" :scusthov::rudy:

ohhh but the video had ballerinas! its artsistic! really:rudy: :laugh: read those lyrics to yourself "lets have a toast to the douchebags" ( but if your watching ballerinas :laugh:dance to thse lyrics its artistic!.. (#slowkids)

and its gettin worse every project he releases.

hes a genius :ooh:


when in reality he doesnt WRITE solo or PRODUCE solo... its all a smokescreen to feed his ego.
 

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come back home yeezy...



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