They're trying to make Kendrick Pac, and it's not working

[The Ruler 09]

No artist will ever be Pac. Pac was a complete 1 off original and unique, not that he didn't have influences and elements of others but his life story, personality and everything rolled in to 1 musically means there will never be another Pac. There will be other greats but a new Pac? Won't happen...

 

[iliketurtles]

The problem is that with Kendrick it seems forced. People don't feel like he even believes half the stuff that comes out of his own mouth.
Just like with Pac, his thug persona felt forced like something he just had to do, but his beliefs and dedication towards black people always felt genuine.
I don't care what anybody says, Kendrick's pseudo intellect is not that good.
Just like Hov said,

"Cause the nikka wear a coofie, it don't mean that he bright
Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice
It just means you don't understand all the bullshyt that he write..."

Kendrick proved that when he just goes in and focuses on making good music, nobody can touch him. He's trying to be too deep.

THANK YOU MISS ME WITH THAT FAKE PSEUDO INTELLECTUAL shyt

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

I agree,getting the Cube,Pac comparsions(some bought on by himself),him coming up under Dre,and being at the forefront of westcoast hiphop are somewhat of a anchor for Kendrick...Its crazy when you think about the expectations that come to a artist who falls into any one of these 3 categorys....Then you have Kendrick who falls under all 3

These expectations really do nothing but cause resentment towards Kendrick,when to be honest the expectations shouldn't even be there,at least not the same ones....Theres nothing about Kendricks style that say he should be able to make music that could sustain the love of the streets,like artist of the past who have been at the forefront of the west coast...Theres nothing about Kendrick that says he has aims of following the blueprint of whats made past west coast artist pop in the mainstream,yet people slight him because he doesn't match them.

When you listen to Kendrick in the proper persepective he's a dope artist to me

you know this post really disappoints me. because you are not keeping it real right now. Let's be honest the truth of the of the matter is,is that this whole comparison thing that Kendrick Lamar is going through was brought on by himself. people want to blame the media as if Kendrick Lamar didn't have fake Brenda got a baby songs on his album and been in interviews all the time ( I posted links in this thread) trying to intertwine himself with Tupac he brought it on himself so when n***** make comments like there's nothing about him that says he wants to be like this person or that person that's absolute nonsense 100% b*******. so as far as people listening to him in the proper context. However you put it it's not going to go like that I don't even know what exactly what you're trying to say with that because the reality is is that this context that people are judging him by was created by him and his team. point blank that's what it is and the reality is is that if he didn't have all the b******* and all the force feeding of his music would he even be talked about at all or would he be some run-of-the-mill Niger which is what he actually is. let's be real he really can't f*** with somebody like wale and a host of others but because he is given certain slots and always being contrasted against people like pac and being pushed out there as the anti Drake or anti this one or that one that gives him a certain light thats his only power so whatever criticism comes with that then a mother f***** has to eat that, that simple. so everything coming his way he asked for it. so there should be no sympathy post for this artist all the s*** coming his way was brought on by him and his handlers by them doing what they were doing and projecting what they were projecting in order to put a certain light on him that his music alone will never garner him. so he has to deal with that now and rightfully so.

 

[iliketurtles]

He's a plant

 

[loyola llothta]

"so you thugger and Pac is wayne"

 

[y que]

hes not pac he's not even the best rapper ever

i dont even think what he's doing nowadays can even be considered hip hop really

he's pretty much in cee-lo, andre 3000 post-hip hop phase

 

[Still Benefited]

you know this post really disappoints me. because you are not keeping it real right now. Let's be honest the truth of the of the matter is,is that this whole comparison thing that Kendrick Lamar is going through was brought on by himself. people want to blame the media as if Kendrick Lamar didn't have fake Brenda got a baby songs on his album and been in interviews all the time ( I posted links in this thread) trying to intertwine himself with Tupac he brought it on himself so when n***** make comments like there's nothing about him that says he wants to be like this person or that person that's absolute nonsense 100% b*******. so as far as people listening to him in the proper context. However you put it it's not going to go like that I don't even know what exactly what you're trying to say with that because the reality is is that this context that people are judging him by was created by him and his team. point blank that's what it is and the reality is is that if he didn't have all the b******* and all the force feeding of his music would he even be talked about at all or would he be some run-of-the-mill Niger which is what he actually is. let's be real he really can't f*** with somebody like wale and a host of others but because he is given certain slots and always being contrasted against people like pac and being pushed out there as the anti Drake or anti this one or that one that gives him a certain light thats his only power so whatever criticism comes with that then a mother f***** has to eat that, that simple. so everything coming his way he asked for it. so there should be no sympathy post for this artist all the s*** coming his way was brought on by him and his handlers by them doing what they were doing and projecting what they were projecting in order to put a certain light on him that his music alone will never garner him. so he has to deal with that now and rightfully so.

Did you miss the part where I said he bought some of it on himself? But your kidding yourself if you think being the protégé to Dr Dre alone wouldn't have come with expectations and put him in the shadows of legends of the past and bought comparisons,whether he asked for it or not....And yeah he's said he wanted to make music with substance and be the voice of the voiceless like Pac. But being inspired by Pac doesn't mean he has to stay in the same lane with Pac,and he hasn't....What I look like being mad at Kendrick because I don't like the way he's promoted by his team,or the fact I think he may not have earned the push he got by the machine? Yall can stay mad about that shyt if you want to,but for ME?Its not like any of that is a character flaw of Kendrick that might turn me off....I've seen nikkas marketed as the next Pac,next Jay,and the list goes on,i simply see it as innacurate and keep it moving....I could see being annoyed if I saw Kendrick acting like the realest,and trying to be Pac,but I don't see that

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

it's the difference between born leaders and made leaders

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

He just doesn't have the music/thoughts to back it up

The thing about Pac was he could HIT your heart. Kendrick just can't do it. Pac had universal appeal, he could make a song that was catchy, that you could dance to, but would make you think, and make you feel something. Pac went for your emotions, and he always got it because he was gifted. Kendrick thinks the way to our emotions is our brain, he's too cerebral, trying to sound intellectual (where Pac WAS actually intellectual) and have "Deep" meanings to everything. The new album is basically TPAB throwaways. The whole jazz kick is feeling way too calculated, acting like because you have a fukking saxophone playing random bullshyt in the background your message is gonna hit, that we're gonna think of you as some revolutionary. The critics with constant dikk riding. The most soulful moment on this new album was when Cee Lo starts to sing (on a song that sounds like 50s supermarket muzak). And let's not forget the Adidas commercial He's looking real funny in the light

i feel what you mean, but do you enjoy his music at all?

 

[Just Jimmy]

I just think Kendrick is another option for the masses to listen to. I'm sure there are tons of weirdo rappers that are on what he's on but I'm not listening to that shyt from them, Kendrick has been on that uplifting/semi weirdo shyt since Overly Dedicated but he definitely pulled a hard right after Cole dropped Forrest Hill Drive. It's common sense shyt, he had to separate himself from the competition.

Some of it feels forced and some of it is flames, I just take what I like and leave the rest of that shyt where I found it

 

[FappleMeOff]

The Game > Kendrick

 

[hex]

I don't understand why people on this board concern themselves with the opinions of people and places they supposedly don't care about.

People go out of their way to read a Fader/Complex/Noisey article about Kendrick (or whoever) so they can complain how those places are forcing that rapper into the spot light.

Nobody back in the day copped "Death Certificate" then ran to the magazine stand to see what Rolling Stone said about it. We didn't care. You can have an opinion of a rapper, negative or positive, totally independent of this "machine" you guys complain about.

Fred.

 

[SirBiatch]

I don't understand why people on this board concern themselves with the opinions of people and places they supposedly don't care about.

People go out of their way to read a Fader/Complex/Noisey article about Kendrick (or whoever) so they can complain how those places are forcing that rapper into the spot light.

Nobody back in the day copped "Death Certificate" then ran to the magazine stand to see what Rolling Stone said about it. We didn't care. You can have an opinion of a rapper, negative or positive, totally independent of this "machine" you guys complain about.

Fred.

I completely agree with what you're saying. But I think the difference is that now Rolling Stone affects the culture when it didn't in the past. I remember KRS shytted on them in Bulworth back then and that was that. Somehow, in the last 5-8 years, Rolling Stone has suddenly mattered (due to Kanye I presume).

It's some chicken-or-egg shyt now. Are Rolling Stone influencing the culture because you're paying attention to them, or are Rolling Stone already influencing the culture regardless of what you do (and thus you're reading them to keep current/express distaste)

 

[hex]

I completely agree with what you're saying. But I think the difference is that now Rolling Stone affects the culture when it didn't in the past. I remember KRS shytted on them in Bulworth back then and that was that. Somehow, in the last 5-8 years, Rolling Stone has suddenly mattered (due to Kanye I presume).

It's some chicken-or-egg shyt now. Are Rolling Stone influencing the culture because you're paying attention to them, or are Rolling Stone already influencing the culture regardless of what you do (and thus you're reading them to keep current/express distaste)

If....and this is a big if....Rolling Stone (or Fader, Complex, whoever) is influencing the culture....and people have a problem with it, then constantly posting threads about what they're saying isn't helping things. Because you (not you, I mean whoever) is just spreading their message.

I didn't even like "TPAB" outside of a couple songs so this has nothing to do with this thread specifically. It just seems nowadays somebody will dislike a rapper....and instead of giving concrete reasons why they'll go see if a hipster blog likes the rapper....then use that as proof the rapper is bad. It's silly as fukk to me.

Fred.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Did you miss the part where I said he bought some of it on himself? But your kidding yourself if you think being the protégé to Dr Dre alone wouldn't have come with expectations and put him in the shadows of legends of the past and bought comparisons,whether he asked for it or not....And yeah he's said he wanted to make music with substance and be the voice of the voiceless like Pac. But being inspired by Pac doesn't mean he has to stay in the same lane with Pac,and he hasn't....What I look like being mad at Kendrick because I don't like the way he's promoted by his team,or the fact I think he may not have earned the push he got by the machine? Yall can stay mad about that shyt if you want to,but for ME?Its not like any of that is a character flaw of Kendrick that might turn me off....I've seen nikkas marketed as the next Pac,next Jay,and the list goes on,i simply see it as innacurate and keep it moving....I could see being annoyed if I saw Kendrick acting like the realest,and trying to be Pac,but I don't see that

My point is that kendrick is blatantly himself trying to align his name with pac's

This comment in particular bothered me :
"Theres nothing about Kendrick that says he has aims of following the blueprint of whats made past west coast artist pop in the mainstream,yet people slight him because he doesn't match them "

You're talking as if people are walking around in a delusional state thinking kdot's gonna be like pac and being let down cause he's not. But that's not the case. The real story is that kdot out here false flagging wit pac's name,knowing he's nothing like that. I dont think me or others expect him to be like pac,we're just peeping his fraudulent nature and blasting him for it.
You also said: "When you listen to Kendrick in the proper persepective he's a dope artist to me"
What is this supposed to mean? If him and his team are tryin to pretend he's the second coming of pac,then people have every right to look at him like "oh that's what you are?, then prove it lil nikka"
"if you a mouse then be a mouse but if your album comes out and you're a don........"
And nobody's asking you to be mad,but when you come out talking like me and/or people that feel similar to me,are tripping,NAW YOU TRIPPING.

Kendrick is being judged and listened to in the proper context given what he and his team has done and continue to do.