They're trying to make Kendrick Pac, and it's not working

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Respect, I can never say the entire east coast but a lot of popular DJs of that era weren't showing Pac love and I remember the mix tapes at that time were pretty anti Pac. I remember a major shift after death.

As far as Kendrick, I don't try to label him since I don't know his plans and reasons behind his actions. Thy sometimes seem too scripted but perception is truth and it gives good music exposure. Why can't we just support him and ride off his energy instead of attempting to knock him down with our jealousy. Even if his intentions aren't genuine I have a 8 year old son that I'd rather build with off Kendricks music and vibe rather than explain to him that Fetty Wap doesn't own a Pie making business with his girlfriend in Trenton
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Yeah some nikkas did hate on the east ... Some music heads , if am keepin it real he was going overboard with his eratic behavour and beefing in 96 i can see why some nikkas feel a certain way about him :wow: still til this day certain heads feel a certain way just most are not vocal cause the amount ov fans pac has ..... Kendrick is a good rapper ... Like i said ... Noone compares to pac on the music -tip kendrick just heavly influenced but he in his own lane ....:yeshrug:
 

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Look around nikka
I do look around ... Noone is copying ross or the likes ov anyone else you said they havent got no power n like i said kendrick is well respected as a good rapper and he neveer faked or clamed to be something hes not .... How in the hell can ross have political power:usure: wen hes not even respected on the streets :pachaha::krs:......
 

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Online c00ns and c@cs detracting while real black people inspired and marching to King Kendrick :wow:

Kendrick and Pac are very different. OP just a hater.


:rudy:

more like people were already marching so interscope capitalized by putting a single in heavy rotation with a politically-charged chant as the hook.

man, interscope is top-notch with the marketing. gotta give it to em.





Anything like this? :mjlol:

Buying shoes, REVOLUTIONARY SHYT!!:mjlol:



this commercial is fitting to the T.

safe new-black faux revolutionary rapper goes out and makes a try-hard revolutionary sneaker commercial.

:pachaha:
 
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Kendrick Lamar Shares Vision He Had Of Tupac When He Was 21

Kendrick Lamar Writes Open Letter To Tupac On Death Anniversary


Listen: Kendrick Lamar Interviews 2Pac | Shelley Wade | 95.7 KISS



http://www.laweekly.com/music/born-...-a-poets-soul-behind-p*ssy-and-patron-2168759

Kendrick Lamar likes to compare himself to Tupac Shakur. But Tupac wasn't from Los Angeles and didn't know his father growing up. By the time Tupac was 23, he had already been shot multiple times and begun serving a prison sentence. Lamar, on the other hand, was born and raised in Compton. His parents are still married. He's 23, and so far he has dodged the almost inescapable bullets that dart through what he calls his "mad city."

Even so, Lamar seems to share Tupac's soul; better still, he seems an evolution of it. The line between "Pac the Playboy" and "Tupac the Tortured Poet" was drawn with an indelible marker, but the sides of Lamar's personality bleed into one another


When Tupac pleaded, "Peace," he sounded like he'd already lost hope. Lamar struggles, too. But when he interjects that same refrain between strings of gang names in "Compton State of Mind," he first sounds insistent, then imperative.

Kendrick Lamar's New Album Proves Tupac Is More Relevant Than Ever

Kendrick Lamar Covers GQ and Talks Tupac Sighting - Kadia B.

Kendrick Lamar – Filling the Void Left by 2Pac

Watch! Kendrick Lamar Opens Up About Depression, 2pac & More On MTV | Video | stupidDOPE.com

What was Kendrick's album originally called?

 

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Kendrick wants to be PAC so bad , rappers never work in another rappers lane
But young thug :ohhh:
 

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This thread is so funny to me. All of these Kendrick haters keep complaining about white people infiltrating hip hop, putting certain artists on a pedestal, or trying to make some of these new rappers better than the legends or at least on the same level. All of that is true, but how are any of you any better with this crab in a bucket mentality. Not being good as Pac isnt the same thing as being trash. There is no reason to tear down another black artist or act like the two cant exist at the same time. I dont see how you could be a pac fan and hate on one of Pacs biggest fans but thats just me.

As for Kendrick himself accepting the comparisons. That is something that comes down to the person. You can either try to be humble and say you arent as good or you can say I wanted to be like Pac and now that im here some people are treating me like Pac and I accept that. I don think anyone that dislikes him now would like him more if he went with the former.

At the end of the day how can the words of a cac magazine/blog make you think any less of anyone when they are supposedly irrelevant and hold no weight in hip hop:jbhmm:.
 

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This thread is so funny to me. All of these Kendrick haters keep complaining about white people infiltrating hip hop, putting certain artists on a pedestal, or trying to make some of these new rappers better than the legends or at least on the same level. All of that is true, but how are any of you any better with this crab in a bucket mentality. Not being good as Pac isnt the same thing as being trash. There is no reason to tear down another black artist or act like the two cant exist at the same time. I dont see how you could be a pac fan and hate on one of Pacs biggest fans but thats just me.

As for Kendrick himself accepting the comparisons. That is something that comes down to the person. You can either try to be humble and say you arent as good or you can say I wanted to be like Pac and now that im here some people are treating me like Pac and I accept that. I don think anyone that dislikes him now would like him more if he went with the former.

At the end of the day how can the words of a cac magazine/blog make you think any less of anyone when they are supposedly irrelevant and hold no weight in hip hop:jbhmm:.

B-b-but how can you compare him to pac :sadcam:

He compared himself to Pac :childplease:

Why you think I started this thread? He and his team are trying to make him the new pac, what's up with the pac interview bullshyt on tpab? Talking to him, like he's inheriting his legacy? :rudy: :camby:


And I hate how all you act like as soon as I say, "hey, but he isn't pac tho:manny:" I'm hating. bytch what? :what: Kendrick makes good music, but sometimes he's off (this last album). And this whole "savior" marketing blitz is making me question. There's something fishy about it. Control was overhyped, critics calling tpab a perfect album and it had no replay value, just wtf is going on here?

You know what made hip hop better? Haters. Way back when, people were honest. If they didn't feel it, they didn't feel it. Nowadays if you have one negative thing to say about a rapper you're a "hater". Nah man, I'm a Kendrick FAN. But, i gotta call a spade a spade. He ain't Pac, and all this pseudo-intellectual posturing isn't helping his case.
 

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I like his music but Kendrick Lamar is the epitome of the college dorm room rapper.

I remember pac and was a big fan of his when he was alive. Kendrick is just someone for the 90s baby generation he doesnt have that universal appeal.

His fans can be pretentious though. They use his brand of rap to bash other rappers.
That isn't a Kendrick problem though, it's par for the course (for some people) when it's about any rapper that doesn't fit the established narrative of what "Hip-Hop" is supposed to be and "Rappers" are supposed to rap about.

Have you ever seen the fans of Lupe fiasco ? Charles Hamilton ? Mickey Factz ? Murs ? And any other
number of alternative Hip-Hop artists ? Usually they're propped up simply because they aren't Gangsta Rappers, everything else is secondary.

Two more rappers who've been getting a lot of love in the booth that fit this exactly are "Chance The Rapper" and "Childish Gambino", both at one point or in some people's opinion still define mediocrity but they get a look because people ignorantly assume that since they aren't rapping about "lean" or "strippers" they're "unique" or "boundary pushing".

It's not even really restricted to alternative Hip-Hop, I mean look at the very posts in this thread.
There are charges of pseudo-intellectualism from people who regularly bump Future and find "depth" in Drake.

Outside of that though, if we're looking at Kendrick plainly he has appeal, not just to "90's baby's"
but to MANY people. If he was just another rapper restricted to "College radio" that was "Fake deep"
he'd quite literally be sharing company with Asher Roth and Macklemore (before the success..) .

The problem is that with Kendrick it seems forced. People don't feel like he even believes half the stuff that comes out of his own mouth.
Just like with Pac, his thug persona felt forced like something he just had to do, but his beliefs and dedication towards black people always felt genuine.
I don't care what anybody says, Kendrick's pseudo intellect is not that good.
Just like Hov said,

"Cause the nikka wear a coofie, it don't mean that he bright
Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice
It just means you don't understand all the bullshyt that he write..."

Kendrick proved that when he just goes in and focuses on making good music, nobody can touch him. He's trying to be too deep.

I don't get it.
How is it "forced" ? It's been apart of the guys content since he stopped being "K.Dot" and instead
decided to write and perform under his given name.

y'all either need to either bring some actual examples of pseudo intellectualism in his lyricism and writing
or y'all need to retire that.
:mjlol:Drake stans so mad their H&M brand rapper hasn't dropped one classic

:mjlol:

shyt is like a bad joke at this point.
We can't discuss these artists honestly if the same people who are critical of kendrick
lamar is stunningly silent when it comes to other rappers.

It's like watching a Britney Spears fan be critical of Stevie wonder for daring
to be "deep".
 

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He just doesn't have the music/thoughts to back it up :yeshrug:

The thing about Pac was he could HIT your heart. Kendrick just can't do it. Pac had universal appeal, he could make a song that was catchy, that you could dance to, but would make you think, and make you feel something. Pac went for your emotions, and he always got it because he was gifted. Kendrick thinks the way to our emotions is our brain, he's too cerebral, trying to sound intellectual (where Pac WAS actually intellectual) and have "Deep" meanings to everything. The new album is basically TPAB throwaways. The whole jazz kick is feeling way too calculated, acting like because you have a fukking saxophone playing random bullshyt in the background your message is gonna hit, that we're gonna think of you as some revolutionary. The critics with constant dikk riding. The most soulful moment on this new album was when Cee Lo starts to sing (on a song that sounds like 50s supermarket muzak). And let's not forget the Adidas commercial:mjlol: He's looking real funny in the light :mjpls:

But the bloggers said he was more freer than any other rapper breh :lupe:

but white people told me he is a musical genius :mjlol:

"He's the blackest rapper in the game today" - :smugfavre:

i dont like something just because white media told me its good. i form my own opinions amd tpab has zero replay value. overproduced, pseudo deep piece of garbage.

yep...talk about trying too hard.
 

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It ain't even hate, breh. It's truth.

I enjoy some of Kendrick's music, The Heart pt 2 is a great hip-hop song, one of my favorites from him. GKMC was a great album. It's just Kendrick's marketing team is failing him. I don't see him as a revolutionary, I don't see him as better than he really is. TPAB was a decent album, with very little replay value. This new one is just TPAB throwaways to me. It's a mess, just like Kanye's.

If they let Kendrick be himself instead of try to pigeonhole him into this martyr role, we might have got some meaningful music. All of this is just too forced.

GKMC was much, MUCH better than TPAB. GKMC seems like it was an organic project, I agree that everything he's done since then has been forced. I personally think they broke him when they didn't give him any awards for GKMC and they really impressed upon him that he had to play their little games for accolades... he wants the accolades so now he's tap-dancing for that mainstream white validation, and they're giving it to him in spades.
 

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B-b-but how can you compare him to pac :sadcam:

He compared himself to Pac :childplease:

Why you think I started this thread? He and his team are trying to make him the new pac, what's up with the pac interview bullshyt on tpab? Talking to him, like he's inheriting his legacy? :rudy: :camby:


And I hate how all you act like as soon as I say, "hey, but he isn't pac tho:manny:" I'm hating. bytch what? :what: Kendrick makes good music, but sometimes he's off (this last album). And this whole "savior" marketing blitz is making me question. There's something fishy about it. Control was overhyped, critics calling tpab a perfect album and it had no replay value, just wtf is going on here?

You know what made hip hop better? Haters. Way back when, people were honest. If they didn't feel it, they didn't feel it. Nowadays if you have one negative thing to say about a rapper you're a "hater". Nah man, I'm a Kendrick FAN. But, i gotta call a spade a spade. He ain't Pac, and all this pseudo-intellectual posturing isn't helping his case.
I mean if you really want to label yourself as a hater than go ahead and do it who am I to stop you. I just dont understand why people get upset at Kendrick for shyt people say about him. Obviously if Pac is your favorite rapper and you strive to be like him, having people call you the second coming is an AMAZING thing to him so why would he ever shy away from it? You just went on some rant about hip hop but at the same time you want this dude to be humble, say Pac is way better than him and he aint shyt? Thats not hip hop. Besides that, there is no way you actually believe his fanbase would increase if he never made those comparisons.

Its funny how you bolded what I wrote and dont even comprehend it. I dont give a shyt if you compare him to pac. If kendrick compares himself to pac or anyone else does for that matter. Im saying its ridiculous to say that you gotta either ride with pac and denounce Kendrick or accept Kendrick as the second coming. Im not doing either. They both dope and trying to shyt on one to big up the other is just playing right into the cac agenda.

Now this last part isnt necessarily directed at you but we have so few artists that are about shyt or even attempting to be about shyt but so many of these so called black posters are quick to try and dismiss everything Kendrick does while openly stanning 50 cent and many other artists that have no lyrical content in 2016.
 

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I'm a big Kendrick fan, but I don't get the Pac comparisons at all other than the obvious fact that he was a big influence on Kendrick... I hate when the media does shyt like this. Let Kendrick crave his own lane

I agree,getting the Cube,Pac comparsions(some bought on by himself),him coming up under Dre,and being at the forefront of westcoast hiphop are somewhat of a anchor for Kendrick...Its crazy when you think about the expectations that come to a artist who falls into any one of these 3 categorys....Then you have Kendrick who falls under all 3:wow:

These expectations really do nothing but cause resentment towards Kendrick,when to be honest the expectations shouldn't even be there,at least not the same ones....Theres nothing about Kendricks style that say he should be able to make music that could sustain the love of the streets,like artist of the past who have been at the forefront of the west coast:myman:...Theres nothing about Kendrick that says he has aims of following the blueprint of whats made past west coast artist pop in the mainstream,yet people slight him because he doesn't match them:pachaha:.

When you listen to Kendrick in the proper persepective he's a dope artist to me:manny:
 
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