Recca Gatsby
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I am shocked by how many Mexicans here know about him. Even some of these girls I dun smashed out.
They got Chapo Guzman, Sinola Cartel Leader
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idk but i always thought there are guys who move more weight and have way more power than these cartel guys but are more discreet. i never got the point of why these guys are fighting each other and are out there like that. there are suppose to be smugglers not corner boys there shouldn't be a need for territory. a smugglers job is to find better ways to smuggle drugs, keep ahead of the law, and protect his supplies so why even bother with what the other guys are doing. i always figured what's going on in mexico with the cartels is something similar with minority street gangs and white organizations (i don't necessarily mean the italian mafia or russians) here in the US. the former take the heat and bare the brunt of the law enforcement (in this case the more poorer brown indigenous looking mexicans which most of these cartels seems to be made of and ran by) while the more european politically connected ruling class organizations are on the low doing pretty well.
There are certain Italian groups like the Caruana-c*ntrera clan or the Rizzutos(up until the last few years) and others(certain Camorra and Ndrangheta clans)that are exactly like you described. They move cartel level weight but without the violence and the hassle that comes with it.
Even if these types of organization beef, it's in a much more efficient way. They go straight for the leaders. Since the heads are the ones with the political and drug connections, once they go, the organization crumbles.
With cartels, you only hear about foot soldiers slaughtering foot soldiers. When is the last time a cartel boss was killed by another cartel? It almost never happens. That type of warfare costs a lot of money with little return on investment.
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To put it into The Wire terms, the cartels are like Marlo and Avon. The type of organizations I mentioned are like the Greeks.
there still shouldn't be a fight over a smuggling route. one each entry / route there is enough traffic for each of them to move product through and anyhow how do they figure another is using their turf if they weren't putting out there. i don't get
Playeroni
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Shut the fukk up
Greed. Chapo was trying to control ALL of the smuggling routes. What I don't understand is, why they all didn't team up and fight against him.
Sinaloa originally only controlled one small border crossing into Arizona, it seems like it would've been easy for the Tijuana, Juarez, and the Gulf Cartels to take him out before he even became an issue. Every time he'd create an alliance with someone to fight another Cartel, he'd eventually turn on them and try to take over their turf.Until Chapo gets sentenced to a prison HE built. With amenities like a hotel estate, in my eyes Escobar is boss.
different times dude.
mind you, this guy had entire governments on payroll.
Greed. Chapo was trying to control ALL of the smuggling routes. What I don't understand is, why they all didn't team up and fight against him.
what i'm not getting is the need to control border crossing or other routes. if chapo for instance is running drugs at the juarez crossing via trailers or cars or whatever what's stopping another cartel from passing drugs there too? how do they even find out and go to war over shyt like that, do the other guys send out a bulletin saying we're running drugs through here? do they all use the same people to run drugs? what's stopping the other guys from loading up some trucks in their town and driving it through juarez without even stopping there? another thing is the cartels are also using boats and even submarines who's territory are the seas? fighting over smuggling routes makes no sense
It's not that simple. Theyre not just loading up boats and cars and driving across. With freedom to do it whenever. This isn't 70s Miami.
They have established specific routes that evade border patrol and to stay off radar. Specific times where the drop off is supposed to happen. Specific corrupted authorities that are supposed to be the one to check the boat/car and let it pass through. Specific underground tunnels and pickup times. And they are trying to move thousands of kilos daily. They're not going to gamble every time they try to do a shipment. They have tried and true strategies that they maximize. Also damn near shipment tracking so they know exactly what is going on and there is no funny business.
So there is no wiggle room to let some other rival breathe you need to maximize that open window. Tijuana cartel has their own established route thru Tijuana into California. Others have routes through Texas, others have routes through Jamaica etc.
It's a network that needs to be maximized. It happens that Sinaloa fought for and own control of the most amount of smuggling routes. More routes = more kilos you can transport weekly = more money.
The less routes you have, you can't even supply dealers in the US with the 100 kilos they asked for. And if you can't, they'll just go to somebody else
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Pretty much what my dude @Ego Eimis said. Not only that, but you have to understand, there are different "cells" that operate within these Cartels. So, one cell could decide they no longer want to be part of the Juárez Cartel anymore and decide they want to be a part of the Sinaloa Cartel. So, more or less, you can say they're fighting over who's gonna control and supply the cells more than anything.
Googled the Flores twins after reading this post and read this:
http://m.chicagoreader.com/chicago/...l-flores-twins-witnesses/Content?oid=11463514
The Feds are some dirtbags. They allowed the twins to keep bringing drugs into the country while setting up the lower level dealers.What type of backwards shyt is that? Why not just shut the twins down, and stop everything completely?
Like someone said in that article, basically they were creating crime for them to solve. Pedro had dudes doing pick ups knowing the Feds was going to be there.
Thats fukked up. Not to mention the lower level guys got longer sentences. Good read if you have the time.
Thats the article I was going to post…thats some sick to you're stomach type of shyt, great journalism, I felt for those dudes being led to slaughter…..It's almost all political, I bet they made a big splash with all those busts, and they get pats on the back, promotions, awards, bigger budgets…..sickening, and you can't condemn the actions of one, and condone those of another, we're all apart of the same hypocrisy and corruption…
Edit: and this is how they grabbed him, short term anyway...http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2014/02/betrayal-dea-and-satellite-phone-led-to.html
These details are TOO crazy to ignore:
(from the wiki)
2014 arrest[edit]
Although Guzmán had long hidden successfully in remote areas of the Sierra Madre mountains, the arrested members of his security team told the military he had begun venturing out to Culiacán and the beach town of Mazatlán.[60] A week prior to his capture, Guzmán and Zambada were reported to have attended a family reunion in Sinaloa.[96] The Mexican military followed the bodyguards' tips to Guzmán’s ex-wife's house, but they had trouble ramming the steel-reinforced front door, which allowed Guzmán to escape through a system of secret tunnels that connected six houses, eventually moving south to Mazatlán.[60]
On February 22, 2014 at around 6:40 a.m.,[97] Mexican authorities arrested Guzmán at a hotel in a beach resort area in Mazatlán, Sinaloa, following an operation by the Mexican Navy, with joint intelligence from the DEA and the U.S. Marshals Service.[98][74] A few days before his capture, Mexican authorities had been raiding several properties owned by members of the Sinaloa Cartel who were close to Guzmán throughout the state of Sinaloa.[99][100] The operation that led to his capture started at 03:45 a.m., when 10 pick-up trucks of the Mexican Navy carrying over 65 soldiers made their way to the resort area. Guzmán was hiding at the Miramar condominiums, located at #608 in Avenida de Mar street.[101][102] Mexican and U.S. federal agents had leads that the drug lord was at that location for at least two days, and that he was staying on the condominium's fourth floor, in Room 401. When the Mexican authorities arrived at the location, they quickly subdued Carlos Manuel Hoo Ramírez, one of Guzmán's presumed bodyguards, before quietly making their way to the fourth floor through the elevators and stairs. Once they were at Guzmán's front door, they broke into the condo and stormed the two rooms it had. In one of the rooms was Guzmán, who was laying in his bed, reportedly with a female companion; he tried to resist arrest and grab an AK-47 he had close to him. Amid the quarrel with the marines, the drug lord was hit four times. By 06:40 a.m., he was arrested, taken to the ground floor, and walked to the condo's parking lot, where the first photos of his capture were taken.[102][103] His identity was confirmed through a fingerprint examination immediately following his capture.[104] He was then flown to Mexico City, the country's capital, for formal identification.[105] According to the Mexican government, no shots were fired during the operation.[106]
Few details of the drug lord's arrest were available early in the morning while the mug shot of Guzmán, handcuffed and with a few cuts on his face, circulated among law enforcement.[107][108]Guzmán was presented in front of cameras during a press conference at the Mexico City International Airport that afternoon.[109] Following the press conference, he was transferred to the Federal Social Readaptation Center No. 1, a maximum-security prison in Almoloya de Juárez, State of Mexico, at around 02:55 p.m via a Federal Police Black Hawk helicopter. The helicopter was escorted by two Navy helicopters and one from the Mexican Air Force.[110][111] Surveillance inside the penitentiary and in the surrounding areas was increased by a large contingency of law enforcement.[112]
(from the wiki)
2014 arrest[edit]
Although Guzmán had long hidden successfully in remote areas of the Sierra Madre mountains, the arrested members of his security team told the military he had begun venturing out to Culiacán and the beach town of Mazatlán.[60] A week prior to his capture, Guzmán and Zambada were reported to have attended a family reunion in Sinaloa.[96] The Mexican military followed the bodyguards' tips to Guzmán’s ex-wife's house, but they had trouble ramming the steel-reinforced front door, which allowed Guzmán to escape through a system of secret tunnels that connected six houses, eventually moving south to Mazatlán.[60]
On February 22, 2014 at around 6:40 a.m.,[97] Mexican authorities arrested Guzmán at a hotel in a beach resort area in Mazatlán, Sinaloa, following an operation by the Mexican Navy, with joint intelligence from the DEA and the U.S. Marshals Service.[98][74] A few days before his capture, Mexican authorities had been raiding several properties owned by members of the Sinaloa Cartel who were close to Guzmán throughout the state of Sinaloa.[99][100] The operation that led to his capture started at 03:45 a.m., when 10 pick-up trucks of the Mexican Navy carrying over 65 soldiers made their way to the resort area. Guzmán was hiding at the Miramar condominiums, located at #608 in Avenida de Mar street.[101][102] Mexican and U.S. federal agents had leads that the drug lord was at that location for at least two days, and that he was staying on the condominium's fourth floor, in Room 401. When the Mexican authorities arrived at the location, they quickly subdued Carlos Manuel Hoo Ramírez, one of Guzmán's presumed bodyguards, before quietly making their way to the fourth floor through the elevators and stairs. Once they were at Guzmán's front door, they broke into the condo and stormed the two rooms it had. In one of the rooms was Guzmán, who was laying in his bed, reportedly with a female companion; he tried to resist arrest and grab an AK-47 he had close to him. Amid the quarrel with the marines, the drug lord was hit four times. By 06:40 a.m., he was arrested, taken to the ground floor, and walked to the condo's parking lot, where the first photos of his capture were taken.[102][103] His identity was confirmed through a fingerprint examination immediately following his capture.[104] He was then flown to Mexico City, the country's capital, for formal identification.[105] According to the Mexican government, no shots were fired during the operation.[106]
Few details of the drug lord's arrest were available early in the morning while the mug shot of Guzmán, handcuffed and with a few cuts on his face, circulated among law enforcement.[107][108]Guzmán was presented in front of cameras during a press conference at the Mexico City International Airport that afternoon.[109] Following the press conference, he was transferred to the Federal Social Readaptation Center No. 1, a maximum-security prison in Almoloya de Juárez, State of Mexico, at around 02:55 p.m via a Federal Police Black Hawk helicopter. The helicopter was escorted by two Navy helicopters and one from the Mexican Air Force.[110][111] Surveillance inside the penitentiary and in the surrounding areas was increased by a large contingency of law enforcement.[112]
Tunnels under tubs? 
Tunnels connecting several homes?
Tracking sat phones?
Local police paid off?
Cars with embassy level armor?
Tunnels connecting several homes?
Tracking sat phones?
Local police paid off?
Cars with embassy level armor?
