There is no sanctuary - FEAR The Walking Dead Season 1 Thread

[tru_m.a.c]

Cost to much to do all that sfx
Even if they did show every kill, there were still way to many. They were going to get overran eventually.

When you're fighting an enemy combatant that can fire at you with machine guns and explosive rounds, then you can get overrun. These aren't 28 days later type zombies. They're just malnourished, dehydrated, people infected with a communicable disease. That's all there is to it.

Say there were a thousand of them trying to enter the compound, the 50 cal should easily take down the first 100 of them in less than 20 seconds. Those rounds turn human flesh into paper machete. So now what affect does a pile of 100 dead bodies have on the invasion route of the zombies? They'd have to go over them or around them right? Within 5 minutes, there would be a bottleneck, thus making the capture of the base extremely difficult.

Essentially shows like the walking dead turn physics, strategy, and tactics, into fantasy, and fantasy into reality. Reality is cool too! Reality can work. It took a long time for space odyssey's to come to grips with this idea that you can create great science fiction while still observing the most basic laws of science. The zombie genre has yet to embrace this idea. For example, every blockbuster space film nowadays has a NASA scientist on set / in the writing room to help flesh out the details with the understanding that some laws have to be "bent" a little to create a good story. When is the last time we've seen a zombie film/show where they were like "Oh man, we had doctors from WHO and the CDC on set helping us every day. We had retired senior military officials on set helping us craft the military response. Some of those paramedics you see down there are actually real paramedics, showing us what to do in the event of a mass casualty incident. This story is real man. The stakeholder reaction is real. The panic that we show is real. The zombies are fake."

Anybody can write a pretend script about landing on Mars. Anybody can write a pretend script about the zombie apocalypse.

 

[Jimmy ValenTime]

there is no science to zombies

there science to space travel

if the dead walked the earth

there bodies would fall apart after a week due to nothing circulating the blood through the body...
they wont be able to walk cause of rigor mortis

here a article..

It's generally accepted by zombie experts that they're going to continue to rot, even as they shamble around the streets. What the movies fail to convey, however, is the gruesome yet strangely hilarious effect the hot sun has on a rotting corpse.

The first concern is putrefaction. Thanks to the plethora of bacteria we use in our colon for digesting plant matter, called gut flora, our bodies are ripe for decay the second our heart stops. Since heat speeds the growth of bacteria (which are plenty happy to start feasting on you once your immune system is no longer a concern) the zombie's got a looming expiration date the very second it turns.



Dead bodies bloat because of the gases created by the bacteria, meaning that in warmer areas even Abercrombie Zombies are going to start getting fat in the first few days. After a few weeks of this, the nasty, bloated zombie army is going to start doing something that is simultaneously the most awesome and disturbing thing a zombie can do: they will start exploding (CAUTION! Pictures!). The warm, moist conditions in the tropical and subtropical parts of the world (or even just summer in the temperate parts) speeds this condition, meaning a July zombie outbreak pretty much anywhere would be over in a few weeks just by virtue of the rampaging monsters bursting like rancid meat balloons.

7 Scientific Reasons a Zombie Outbreak Would Fail (Quickly) | Cracked.com

 

[wickedsm]

I knew it was gonna be a waste of my time but I went ahead and watched the mini plane episode on AMC
16 episodes of 1 minute crap
I wish the zombies had anti aircraft weaponry and the ability to use it

 

[FakeCaringGawd]

It isn't realistic that 2000+ zombies could push their way through a military compound made up of 100 or so improperly trained soldiers/kids (as they were described on the show)?

 

[tru_m.a.c]

there is no science to zombies

there science to space travel

if the dead walked the earth

there bodies would fall apart after a week due to nothing circulating the blood through the body...
they wont be able to walk cause of rigor mortis

here a article..

It's generally accepted by zombie experts that they're going to continue to rot, even as they shamble around the streets. What the movies fail to convey, however, is the gruesome yet strangely hilarious effect the hot sun has on a rotting corpse.

The first concern is putrefaction. Thanks to the plethora of bacteria we use in our colon for digesting plant matter, called gut flora, our bodies are ripe for decay the second our heart stops. Since heat speeds the growth of bacteria (which are plenty happy to start feasting on you once your immune system is no longer a concern) the zombie's got a looming expiration date the very second it turns.



Dead bodies bloat because of the gases created by the bacteria, meaning that in warmer areas even Abercrombie Zombies are going to start getting fat in the first few days. After a few weeks of this, the nasty, bloated zombie army is going to start doing something that is simultaneously the most awesome and disturbing thing a zombie can do: they will start exploding (CAUTION! Pictures!). The warm, moist conditions in the tropical and subtropical parts of the world (or even just summer in the temperate parts) speeds this condition, meaning a July zombie outbreak pretty much anywhere would be over in a few weeks just by virtue of the rampaging monsters bursting like rancid meat balloons.

7 Scientific Reasons a Zombie Outbreak Would Fail (Quickly) | Cracked.com

No fam that's not what I meant. It's not about the science of zombies. The science is around societies reaction to a cataclysmic event. The zombies apocalypse is just a mirror that the author uses to make social commentary on the world.

The minute you talk about creating a script that shows the breakdown of society, how can you leave the following stakeholders out:
- news platforms
- emergency medical services
- congressional leaders
- local leaders
- all military branches

There is no show about "the fall of society" if you're not exposing the structural deficiencies in society.

I'm not trying to dwell on this point for too long at the expense of sounding like I'm bytching. I'm just pointing out a glaring mistake as a healthcare consultant, both in the private and public sector, and as a volunteer EMT. The writers can sit here and BS you guys about the notion that in TWD world, nobody knows what zombies are, but that doesn't mean people forget what they're trained to do. That's really what this 6 episode show was about: how the world forget to do their fukkn jobs for X weeks.

I'm telling you right now that everything about the first episode was structurally wrong from a hospital/provider standpoint. I'm telling you right now that the treatment provided by the medic/EMT on the highway and the response to the medic/EMT being attacked on the highway was structurally wrong. I'm telling you right now, everything, everything about the way the outbreak was handled from a public health perspective was wrong.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

It isn't realistic that 2000+ zombies could push their way through a military compound made up of 100 or so improperly trained soldiers/kids (as they were described on the show)?

To quote the only living black character as he walks past a zombie feasting on a dead solider, "It's okay, they're slow."

It's like you guys have never seen what a bullet does to a human body before. A rag tag paintball team could level 2000 WALKING zombies from a military compound.

 

[Jimmy ValenTime]

am say this to say that the show made it choices realistically the army would straight up fire bomb the places that got over run ...

but the show mainly about what regular folks do in the situation


The walker situation would be contained before rick woke up from his coma if no one panic and acted professional ..

 

[Mr. Brown]

The worst character on the show is easily the Hispanic son. He's a horrible actor and it's a lame character. He should've been the one that got big instead of his mom.

 

[Dwolf]

It isn't realistic that 2000+ zombies could push their way through a military compound made up of 100 or so improperly trained soldiers/kids (as they were described on the show)?

A military compound protected by a chain linked fence

To quote the only living black character as he walks past a zombie feasting on a dead solider, "It's okay, they're slow."

It's like you guys have never seen what a bullet does to a human body before. A rag tag paintball team could level 2000 WALKING zombies from a military compound.

 

[DLeap]

it's kinda tripped out that carl grimes from TWD can easily get headshot after headshot against zombies, but the trained military was pure ass at shooting.

also, even if the military cats weren't getting headshots, if you're airing out a crowd of people with assault rifles, those zombies should have at least been chopped up into mincemeat. especially the ones in the front. it was as if they were all firing blanks.

10 Year Old Mika's shot accuracy:

Entire squad of trained military men's shot accuracy:

 

[tru_m.a.c]

10 Year Old Mika's shot accuracy:

Entire squad of trained military men's shot accuracy:

let them nikkas live in their fantasy world b....the reason no zombies are falling after being shot at point blank range is because those are soldiers from the national guard and not only can't they shoot through a chain linked fence, armor piercing rounds can't pass through the links as well.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

To quote the only living black character as he walks past a zombie feasting on a dead solider, "It's okay, they're slow."

It's like you guys have never seen what a bullet does to a human body before. A rag tag paintball team could level 2000 WALKING zombies from a military compound.

I agree

A 50 cal would've slaughtered a few hundred of them to peices the way they just stood there bunched up behind the fence.

Not to mention guys standing point blank range with M16's..

I could understand if it was a hoard and they were coming in any direct, spread out, and etc.

They were literally standing behind the fence without a single bullet affecting them.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

let them nikkas live in their fantasy world b....the reason no zombies are falling after being shot at point blank range is because those are soldiers from the national guard and not only can't they shoot through a chain linked fence, armor piercing rounds can't pass through the links as well.

The fence must've been bullet proof

 

[licktheballs]

I knew it was gonna be a waste of my time but I went ahead and watched the mini plane episode on AMC
16 episodes of 1 minute crap
I wish the zombies had anti aircraft weaponry and the ability to use it

That just sounds like

 

[JayBaldacci]

Played Op4 against the natty girls before, they suck. This was an accurate dipiction.