There is NO hip hop album from the 80s I can listen to in full
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This says more about you than the quality of 80s hiphop.
funny enough, I was thinking of starting a thread stating the exact opposite.
The issue is that rappers today are carried by their production.
Listening to the old shyt, it was evident that proper MCing was necessary to keep the listeners attention. If you're not paying tuning in to the MCs on a technical level than, of course, you won't be able to make it through an album.
On a side note, listening to Golden age hiphop has made me realize how much of the art of rapping is taken for granted.
Today, it's generally accepted that we as listeners will put up with garbage lyrics, flat delivery, sloppy flows, low energy, zero mic prescence, cringe personalities ,and most notably no originality. As long as the beat knocks and they got entertaining gimmick.
And they shouldn't be? Given that hip hop is turntable culture and started with the DJ supplying breakbeats in a new, never-done way of looping?
Hip hop didn't exist till the beat got created. Dudes weren't even rapping in the beginning. (and no, IllmaticDelta, I don't need some long ass post from you.)
I absolutely agree with you that the art of rapping has been GREATLY diminished. I can listen to a number of those 80s albums and follow the rhymes all the way through. They're witty, friendly, badass at times, etc. They say a lot more interesting shyt than anyone rapping today. But.... hip hop isn't spoken word.
The biggest problem with modern hip hop is the lack of originality. Right after that, the biggest problem is the shyt beats. People keep talking about how bad the rhymes have gotten. The beats are on a whole other level of pathetic.
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And they shouldn't be? Given that hip hop is turntable culture and started with the DJ supplying breakbeats in a new, never-done way of looping?
Hip hop didn't exist till the beat got created. Dudes weren't even rapping in the beginning. (and no, IllmaticDelta, I don't need some long ass post from you.)
I absolutely agree with you that the art of rapping has been GREATLY diminished. I can listen to a number of those 80s albums and follow the rhymes all the way through. They're witty, friendly, badass at times, etc. They say a lot more interesting shyt than anyone rapping today. But.... hip hop isn't spoken word.
The biggest problem with modern hip hop is the lack of originality. Right after that, the biggest problem is the shyt beats. People keep talking about how bad the rhymes have gotten. The beats are on a whole other level of pathetic.
what do feel about beats like asap rocky's "fashion killa"?
How often do you listen to "I Need Love?" Keep it 100.
That's half-true.
I know youngns in the early 20s range. Some of them are more nostalgic about 90s music than we were. Hell, you're in your 20s I take it. You're here
for 80s music so that should tell you something.You guys have turned this into an old-vs-young debate. Which isn't what I was trying to get at.
That's exactly what I meant.
The reality is that the mid 80s and early 90s are very intertwined. They're all one long era. In the sense that a lot of record labels got their start in the 80s and ended up dominating in the 90s.
Recording in general wasn't cheap. Especially albums. When hip hop wasn't commercial, most people could only afford to record a single. Put it out get some buzz. Maybe you did some shows off that song. Then maybe you got a deal to put out an album. And even then, the budgets for those albums weren't all that big. Compared to when 90s cats.
People put out albums because something had to be sold anyway. There are songs on classic hip hop albums that were buzzing in the streets for years before they got put onto an album. I'm not saying people didn't put time into their albums. But I think it's fairly obvious that the 'really great, top to bottom hip hop albums' didn't start coming until the very late 80s, 90s.
I talked to an OG who worked in the business and is in his 50s. Ask him his top 5 hip hop albums that he can play front to back. First thing that came to his mind was Tribe's first album*. When did that come out?
I rest my case.
*Note: at some point you'll realize that you don't have to be greatest rapper to make a great fukking album. When Q-Tip came out, people were a lil disappointed that he wasn't the new Rakim/Kane/KRS. But then they heard his music and thought: "whoa".
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Not that I agree with OP, but it's for sure a worthwhile discussion.
3 ft high is a timeless masterpiece..
3 ft high is a timeless masterpiece..
what do feel about beats like asap rocky's "fashion killa"?
One of the worst beats Rocky has ever rapped on.
I heard it the day the album got leaked. Was bumping the album on the way to work and when Fashion Killa came on (I was in the subway at the time), I burst out laughing. And people were looking at me strange.
Goofy, bullshyt beat. I couldn't spit on it enough.
How often do you listen to "I Need Love?" Keep it 100.
That's half-true.
I know youngns in the early 20s range. Some of them are more nostalgic about 90s music than we were. Hell, you're in your 20s I take it. You're here
You guys have turned this into an old-vs-young debate. Which isn't what I was trying to get at.
doesnt matter how often i listen to it.
im not the type to dwell on the same artists over & over. ive gone years without listening to some of my favorite albums.
what matters is that time stops when that song comes on, and its darn near 30 years old.
and you knowing people in their mid-20s who are nostalgic is neither here-nor-there. the bottom line is that theres plenty of youngns running around dismissing anything before their time - whether respectfully or disrespectfully.
then the "replay value" conversation is a tough one to have with you.
in other words, i listen to too much different music.
the only time i keep the same stuff in rotation is when im too lazy to switch up cds out of my stereo or car or if my too lazy to add stuff to the mp4.
in other words, you're not even remotely qualified to talk about what lasts/doesn't last because you barely listen to shyt anyway.
Thanks for your input
Same here.
in other words, you're not even remotely qualified to talk about what lasts/doesn't last because you barely listen to shyt anyway.
Thanks for your input
lol.
are you seriously trying to insinuate that "i need love" didnt past the test of time?