There are only 4 father figures in hiphop. HipHops maturity level is that of a 17 y/o

[Enzo]

Bradley Cooper 38 years old still making movies about getting drunk and blacking out.
What will young white boys think

Getting drunk and blacking out is legal so long as you are 21.

Selling drugs, shooting people, and robbing isn't.

So your comparison is null.

 

[Enzo]

Last thought.

In order for anyone to actively participate in this debate or even properly negate what OP is saying, you would have to start with the assumption that hip hop figures can be father figures.

Basically, he is saying

If hip hop figures were to be judged by their actions, the majority of them act like immature children as opposed to their actual age, whereas I think these few act like an adult/father/mentor would act at that age.

That's his opinion based on the premise he presented in this thread.

Anything you guys are saying is moot if you can't argue against this opinion based on that premise.

Just my two cents.

 

[Soundwave]

What about Gucci?

 

[daze23]

I'm all for more maturity and seriousness in hip-hop, but "father figures"?

 

[keond]

Bun B is on that unapologetic grown man steez

 

[ProfessionallyTrill]

Sensitive thugs, yall all need hugs

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

why do u people keep making this weak response totally overlooking that this rap sh*t is raising the babies. I can count the numerous rappers who have admitted to being influenced by rappers positively and negatively so dont give me that nonsense about why would anyone look at rappers as father figures. They are father figures wether you want to admit it or not. I'll even prove it....Pac made it seem ok to be a man who brags about sleeping with another mans wife to the public......Thats not what real men do.....thats what immature boys do.....That kind of action can get a person killed....But then look at Jay Z....he does the same thing cuz Pac does with Nas' wife because Pac was such a strong influence......Wayne not to long ago did the same thing to Chris Bosh's wife then claimed to be the new Pac......Are we really going to deny all the babies in the urban communities of the world that Pac influenced and raised??

YAWN.

Get real, better, influential role models. Its not my problem that you can't see through the facade.

I dont see you getting mad at movie stars for their imagery either.

Do a better job of raising your kids and you won't have to worry about the world raising them for you.

I'm tired of having to be reminded of individual deficiencies in raising your own but blaming the world on failing you.

The world doesn't owe you shyt.

My parents and community raised me to not put stock into entertainers beyond being mere entertainment...if you weren't fortunate enough, thats not my problem.

Its one thing to ask for people to do better, but to expect the very artists who embrace free speech in making their content to cater to you (the opposite of free speech/expression) is very naive and borderline arrogant.

It starts at home.

Whats worse is that you think the OP had any point at all.

If you're gullible enough to be led around by a rappers image, persona, and message then whatever that rapper does is the LEAST of your problems.

You've already lost as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

fukk i need a father figure for

 

[drugxglory]

"Makaveli was my tutor, Donald Goines my father figure" - Pac

 

[Binary]

 

[intilectual recipricol]

KRS1 a father figure? If you wanna be a dumbass, yes.

 

[Sierra Mist]

That's why I don't listen to that garbage.

 

[smokeurobinson]

Breh its not that serious..do what i do..you dont like what someone/something represents don't support it. THere are plenty who support your views and plenty who don't. Gravitate towards that and KIM.

I dont think I ever said anything about not liking anything anyone represented. I'm just pointing out the maturity level of todays current hip hop.

They are not really that far apart breh. Estasy is MDMA cut with other drugs in a pill, Molly is straight MDMA in powder form. Stop acting like its weed vs heroin. I've done both, you get similar effects, unless you were taking real shyt E pills.

On top of that, for this argument here, drug use is drug use right? So you are saying in the 90s, when rappers weren't promoting drugs as heavy, people were still doing them heavy? Kinda fukks up your whole argument.....



How is the example terrible? The song has been popular for 20+ years. It was played in clubs all across the country. That shyt still gets spins from time to time. Millions of people have heard the song. MILLIONS. If it has such a holding effect on people, it should have got people to 'DONT DO IT!' right?

SMH @ u doing designer drugs in 2013. In 1994 u had whats was called Adam and Eve and Jingle Bells. ....Never mind....next subject..... U cant compare the 90's to Now....In the 90's u had balance......De La Soul spoke against what Pac and Naughty was representing in their music.....and Pac sh*ttedon De La in return and Pos got jumped by Naughtys people. Jeru spoke againts what Biggie was representing in the song Playing Ya Self and Biggie responded with Kick In The Door. There was balance in the 90's...aint nobody checking the recklessness in todays current Hip Hop mainstream.




and its a terrible example because its a popular song now.....In the early 80s that song did not have pop cultures attention like that.....Pop culture was Tears For Fears, Madonna, MJ, Prince and Bruce Sprinsting. The biggest rap acts to go mainstream were Fat Boys, Run DMC and Whodini. Tone Loc and Young MC were pop culture...... LL Cool J, Kurtis Blow, Flash...That was Hip Hop sh*t....Not pop. They didnt play Larry Love on Z100....They played Guns N Roses and Whitesnake......I never once heard Flash on z 100 in the 80's.......Flash was on Kiss FM. When Cube did that Check Ya Self remix it brought the Flash song back to life....But that was in the 90's. I remember exactly how that sh*t played out.

Last thought.

In order for anyone to actively participate in this debate or even properly negate what OP is saying, you would have to start with the assumption that hip hop figures can be father figures.

Basically, he is saying

If hip hop figures were to be judged by their actions, the majority of them act like immature children as opposed to their actual age, whereas I think these few act like an adult/father/mentor would act at that age.

That's his opinion based on the premise he presented in this thread.

Anything you guys are saying is moot if you can't argue against this opinion based on that premise.

Just my two cents.

This guy gets it

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Now you all see why OP posts the way he does...

"He was lookin for a father, he was gone..."

shoulda hung around wit the thugs nicca

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

for all the fatherless nikkas in here, jigga & beans understand