'The Woman King' | Sept 2022 | Viola Davis, Lashana Lynch, John Boyega, Thuso Mbedu

[OmegaK2099]

I liked the use of weapons in this movie, namely the rope spear/dart scene. I'd like to see more African based martial arts in movies, that's where they kind of dropped the ball with black panther. Like this:

 

[NobodyReally]

I like to think there was no real redemption for Dahomey; there was redemption for a couple of fictionalized members of Dahomey that tried to push back on Dahomey's role in the slave trade

 

[NobodyReally]

I liked the use of weapons in this movie, namely the rope spear/dart scene. I'd like to see more African based martial arts in movies, that's where they kind of dropped the ball with black panther. Like this:

I'm really hoping this spawns a new interest and production in African based movies using these kind of martial arts because those scenes were dope.

 

[nieman]

Ok, the talking points of most debates is that there were involved with selling their "own." Who is their own? In the context of the movie, they were heroes providers and protectors of only their tribe. They sold their captures/enemies/POW. They also had to deal with the politics that allowed them to keep their people safe. These are the acts which draws people in.

The harsh reality is that those who prosper, do it at the expense of others. There's very little honor when such things are involved. All tales of historic moments of prosper are always slanted towards the victor, glorified, and essentially "Disneyfied". There's not a single tale of a great empire in which the truth is not littered with inhumane acts. There's ish they had to do to get there, and ish they had to do to stay there.

So, if people really want historical accuracy of 100% truth, how do you tell an inspiring story? How do you tell the story of any historical figure(s)? How do you truly capture the moments of prosperity in a way in which one will be awed?

One dude in here said Shaka Zulu. Like his reign didn't come from invading other territories, committing genocide, assassinating their leaders, then imposing his beliefs on those who remained. But he's one of the most influential kings in the history of Africa. Well, how did that "influence" come about?

 

[lightskin jermaine]

The movie was dope! Got a round of applause from the audience.

 

[VoxSphere74]

Ok, the talking points of most debates is that there were involved with selling their "own." Who is their own? In the context of the movie, they were heroes providers and protectors of only their tribe. They sold their captures/enemies/POW. They also had to deal with the politics that allowed them to keep their people safe. These are the acts which draws people in.

The harsh reality is that those who prosper, do it at the expense of others. There's very little honor when such things are involved. All tales of historic moments of prosper are always slanted towards the victor, glorified, and essentially "Disneyfied". There's not a single tale of a great empire in which the truth is not littered with inhumane acts. There's ish they had to do to get there, and ish they had to do to stay there.

So, if people really want historical accuracy of 100% truth, how do you tell an inspiring story? How do you tell the story of any historical figure(s)? How do you truly capture the moments of prosperity in a way in which one will be awed?

One dude in here said Shaka Zulu. Like his reign didn't come from invading other territories, committing genocide, assassinating their leaders, then imposing his beliefs on those who remained. But he's one of the most influential kings in the history of Africa. Well, how did that "influence" come about?

They don't want to hear it

Because there's no such thing as a peace loving empire because they get destroyed by the warmongering ones along the way.

And if at some point they do a Mali Empire movie about Mansa Musa etc..it'll be the same thing.

Ashanti Empire...Same thing.

Oyo Empire...Same thing

Not one empire is innocent.


But one person was honest in this discussion and said that they'd prefer fictional stories like an African Game of Thrones. But as an adult you can't just ignore history because that's the only way to deal with the past and move forward.

 

[Cat piss martini]

This Movie should win Oscars.
Dope fukkin Movie!!

 

[NeoSeeker]

Best movie I've seen this year.

 

[Dave24]

Ok, the talking points of most debates is that there were involved with selling their "own." Who is their own? In the context of the movie, they were heroes providers and protectors of only their tribe. They sold their captures/enemies/POW. They also had to deal with the politics that allowed them to keep their people safe. These are the acts which draws people in.

The harsh reality is that those who prosper, do it at the expense of others. There's very little honor when such things are involved. All tales of historic moments of prosper are always slanted towards the victor, glorified, and essentially "Disneyfied". There's not a single tale of a great empire in which the truth is not littered with inhumane acts. There's ish they had to do to get there, and ish they had to do to stay there.

So, if people really want historical accuracy of 100% truth, how do you tell an inspiring story? How do you tell the story of any historical figure(s)? How do you truly capture the moments of prosperity in a way in which one will be awed?

One dude in here said Shaka Zulu. Like his reign didn't come from invading other territories, committing genocide, assassinating their leaders, then imposing his beliefs on those who remained. But he's one of the most influential kings in the history of Africa. Well, how did that "influence" come about?

@nieman what inhumane acts did King Solomon and King David do to establish and create their kingdom?

 

[Street Messiah]

I checked this out last night. it's a great movie. the king was my favorite character though. I felt his presence in every scene and his last speech was very powerful.

 

[mastermind]

Ok, the talking points of most debates is that there were involved with selling their "own." Who is their own? In the context of the movie, they were heroes providers and protectors of only their tribe. They sold their captures/enemies/POW. They also had to deal with the politics that allowed them to keep their people safe. These are the acts which draws people in.

The harsh reality is that those who prosper, do it at the expense of others. There's very little honor when such things are involved. All tales of historic moments of prosper are always slanted towards the victor, glorified, and essentially "Disneyfied". There's not a single tale of a great empire in which the truth is not littered with inhumane acts. There's ish they had to do to get there, and ish they had to do to stay there.

So, if people really want historical accuracy of 100% truth, how do you tell an inspiring story? How do you tell the story of any historical figure(s)? How do you truly capture the moments of prosperity in a way in which one will be awed?

One dude in here said Shaka Zulu. Like his reign didn't come from invading other territories, committing genocide, assassinating their leaders, then imposing his beliefs on those who remained. But he's one of the most influential kings in the history of Africa. Well, how did that "influence" come about?

imo, it’s just black manosphere upset it’s not black men fighters.

Birth of a Nation has historical inaccuracies too and many of the same people did not care.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

@ the intellectually dishonest mental gymnastics being played in this thread trying to cape for this bullshyt...

There's a good chance at least one of the actors in the film had an ancestor who was sold into slavery by the very people this film tries to portray as heroes...

 

[Ozymandeas]

They don't want to hear it

Because there's no such thing as a peace loving empire because they get destroyed by the warmongering ones along the way.

And if at some point they do a Mali Empire movie about Mansa Musa etc..it'll be the same thing.

Ashanti Empire...Same thing.

Oyo Empire...Same thing

Not one empire is innocent.


But one person was honest in this discussion and said that they'd prefer fictional stories like an African Game of Thrones. But as an adult you can't just ignore history because that's the only way to deal with the past and move forward.

Exactly.

I read a few books on Alexander and was astonished by what the movies left out. There was one city, Tyre, that Alexander wanted but they resisted his army for a year. Part of the city was on an island and they were able to stop Alexander from advancing on it, so he built a bridge to the island and due to him being pissed off that they resisted for so long, he let his men murder every man, woman and child there. Of course, this was after they raped the women and girls. I guess they thought that was too violent for the movie and that was just one of the foul things he did.

 

[Alvin]

10/10 movie
I have to read through this thread but why is this movie “controversial” ?

 

[patscorpio]

This was a real good movie...like damn shyt was dope