'The Woman King' | Sept 2022 | Viola Davis, Lashana Lynch, John Boyega, Thuso Mbedu

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Because they didn't :mjlol:


They tried to keep slavery going after cacs took over and made it illegal.

And even after the British cacs put a blockade up they still tried to sell slaves to Portuguese traders.

They NEVER had this lightbulb moment and decided "we gotta stop slavery we're doing because we can make money of palm oil instead"


What message would be sent if cacs came out with a movie that depicted Europeans first going to Africa with the primary motivation of freeing Black people from African slavery and them as heroes/liberators as opposed to Colonization and them as colonists? Would you be okay with that and that narrative being put out there.

The Nazi's/German military were the world's most powerful force in the 1930's. Yet they NEVER making movies glorifying the strength they had or as some aspiration to look up to due to their historical actions. So why is it suddenly different here?
Thanks for the breakdown. I didn't know the history and now I see why yall would feel disrespected by the movie :ehh:.
 

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Because they didn't :mjlol:


They tried to keep slavery going after cacs took over and made it illegal.

And even after the British cacs put a blockade up they still tried to sell slaves to Portuguese traders.

They NEVER had this lightbulb moment and decided "we gotta stop slavery we're doing because we can make money of palm oil instead"


What message would be sent if cacs came out with a movie that depicted Europeans first going to Africa with the primary motivation of freeing Black people from African slavery and them as heroes/liberators as opposed to Colonization and them as colonists? Would you be okay with that and that narrative being put out there.

The Nazi's/German military were the world's most powerful force in the 1930's. Yet they NEVER making movies glorifying the strength they had or as some aspiration to look up to due to their historical actions. So why is it suddenly different here?
Pretty much every cac movie about them in Africa is a white savior movie. Historical accuracy is irrelevant.

Also the Game of Thrones and Vikings threads, both of which are about shows where cacs are slave owning warmongers are always busy on this forum and on twitter with conversations by Black people who love both shows. And with GoT Black people on the show are slaves and cater to whites but that show is apparently ok. :mjpls:

As for African Empires and leaders, from Mansa Musa to Nzinga, to the Dahomey, to the Zulu not one of them is clean on slavery.


And the Euro cacs didn't ban slavery to be nice. They did it because slave labor was cheaper than factory labor due to industrialization with factories so it had to be stopped.

And after they banned slavery they invaded and destroyed the governments of most African countries during the scramble for africa in the mid 1800's to early 1900's to steal their diamonds, oil, silver, iron ore, and land in general to create white minority countries or puppet states that served them economically.



On the larger point though it seems like the complainers want cartoon versions of history where Black Africans are saints and superheroes instead of the mostly morally gray individuals that they were including Black Americans themselves.

For example most Black Americans went along with slavery and didn't rebel. Day after day, week after week, year after year, and decade after decade. And those who did rebel were snitched on by Blacks who didn't really mind slavery.

That's just history and it's shameful and it can't ever be made right but banning movies about traitorous Black people doesn't solve anything. Instead more Black African movies need to be made so Black people can know where they came from and fix what can be fixed.
 
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Pretty much every cac movie about them in Africa is a white savior movie. Historical accuracy is irrelevant.

And those movies are always called out.


For example most Black Americans went along with slavery and didn't rebel. Day after day, week after week, year after year, and decade after decade. And those who did rebel were snitched on by Blacks who didn't really mind slavery.

You gotta be a cac writing this :mjtf:


What's next "slavery was a choice"?
 

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Just got out the movie.

Was it good. To me, yes. Slow build but yes.

The guy in the purple…5 scenes in total. Maybe on screen for 2 mins…2:30 at the most. Had a handful of lines, overall insignificant character.

The king wives…..fam :noah: all of them :noah:

Good fight scenes….
the amazons never really flat out over powered them. The big battles (there were 3 of them) all were a result of getting the drop on the other tribes first. 2 of them at night while they slept.

After reading the real historical context yes this movie took liberties.

Did they address the Dahomey role in the slave trade, Yes. But only in the sense of kinda implying it was a necessary evil. The best way I could describe it. (I thought that was ehh)
 

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Just finished it. Tbh found it mostly boring. And yes it is historically inaccurate. Fight scenes were cool. There was no wenching (well kinda but not really). Accents seemed kinda off. Visually was nice. No gay shyt (kinda, but it's not really noticeable).

6/10 overall. Watched it on a streaming site.

From my post in TLR
 

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Pretty much every cac movie about them in Africa is a white savior movie. Historical accuracy is irrelevant.

Also the Game of Thrones and Vikings threads, both of which are about shows where cacs are slave owning warmongers are always busy on this forum and on twitter with conversations by Black people who love both shows. And with GoT Black people on the show are slaves and cater to whites but that show is apparently ok. :mjpls:

As for African Empires and leaders, from Mansa Musa to Nzinga, to the Dahomey, to the Zulu not one of them is clean on slavery.


And the Euro cacs didn't ban slavery to be nice. They did it because slave labor was cheaper than factory labor due to industrialization with factories so it had to be stopped.

And after they banned slavery they invaded and destroyed the governments of most African countries during the scramble for africa in the mid 1800's to early 1900's to steal their diamonds, oil, silver, iron ore, and land in general to create white minority countries or puppet states that served them economically.



On the larger point though it seems like the complainers want cartoon versions of history where Black Africans are saints and superheroes instead of the mostly morally gray individuals that they were including Black Americans themselves.

For example most Black Americans went along with slavery and didn't rebel. Day after day, week after week, year after year, and decade after decade. And those who did rebel were snitched on by Blacks who didn't really mind slavery.

That's just history and it's shameful and it can't ever be made right but banning movies about traitorous Black people doesn't solve anything. Instead more Black African movies need to be made so Black people can know where they came from and fix what can be fixed.

Brehs be watching Game of Thrones, Rings of Power without a care in the world when the real life inspiration of those shows were the progenitors of racism. They probably watched Bridgerton, Downton Abbey and The Crown too and didn’t say a lick about the characters going “off to India” or “off to the Colonies” :mjpls: I know some fukk face gonna quote me arguing but, the energy is not the same. Like 90% of the comments about this movie are negative. There’s not energy like that for the white shows about civilizations that did more and worse to us :beli:
 

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Exactly how I feel

The biggest slave traders…and not even the Opps tribes but your own people!???

Shaka Zulu remake would be so dope

Shaka Zulu was a genocidal terrorist to most of South Africa though breh. I’m sure there’s tons of Africans who don’t look at him favorably. It’s funny you’d mention him in a thread like this and not see the irony. But that’s precisely why you watch historical movies from an objective viewpoint.
 

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Brehs be watching Game of Thrones, Rings of Power without a care in the world when the real life inspiration of those shows were the progenitors of racism. They probably watched Bridgerton, Downton Abbey and The Crown too and didn’t say a lick about the characters going “off to India” or “off to the Colonies” :mjpls: I know some fukk face gonna quote me arguing but, the energy is not the same. Like 90% of the comments about this movie are negative. There’s not energy like that for the white shows about civilizations that did more and worse to us :beli:

THEY COULD HAVE EASILY
BASED THIS MOVIE AROUND
A FICTIONAL TRIBE JUST LIKE
THOSE FICTIONAL SHOWS YOU NAMED...

BUT THEY DIDNT.

WHERE IS YOUR FAMILY FROM?

:devil:
:evil:
 
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