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'The Woman King' | Sept 2022 | Viola Davis, Lashana Lynch, John Boyega, Thuso Mbedu
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DaRealness
I think very deeply
The movie was dope. Everyone gave a stellar performance in this. The main chick is cute.
It was entertaining fam. I think brehs were too hard on it based on the historical inaccurracy, but that's Hollywood. Action scenes were dope, the King wasn't weak; he showed good judgment by trusting Nanisca even when his advisors and his main wife 
were hating on her. Film hit the right notes on story telling, emotion, and action. Those sistas really showed out and the ending was very, very, satisfying
were hating on her. Film hit the right notes on story telling, emotion, and action. Those sistas really showed out and the ending was very, very, satisfying 
Super Cheech
I Feel So Westcoast
Just watched it. I enjoyed the movie.
TheKongoEmpire
A Wilsonian Garveyite
This is the issue I have but that's been normalize in the BC for some time now.
TheKongoEmpire
A Wilsonian Garveyite
It's insightful.
The Amerikkkan Idol
The Amerikkkan Nightmare
It was. I just watched it.It was entertaining fam. I think brehs were too hard on it based on the historical inaccurracy, but that's Hollywood. Action scenes were dope, the King wasn't weak; he showed good judgment by trusting Nanisca even when his advisors and his main wife
nikkaz on here and online misled me about how the movie was.
It ADDRESSED slavery with Viola Davis begging the king to stop selling slaves to the White folks.
It didn't glorify it at all.
The movie wasn't about the king, who was selling slaves, it was about the Agojie warriors, they didn't make any decisions.
The king wasn't useless, but the movie wasn't about him.This is the issue I have but that's been normalize in the BC for some time now.
He straight up told the Portuguese that they were in his country and they needed his protection to survive.
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this is whats so fukked up about this movie - it really is a fabrication but because it is something that gives a sense of pride or makes you feel good people want to dismiss what it really does which is create a false narrative no more real that the idea that Columbus was brave and was a explorer just intrested in the academic exploration of routes to the new world
you couldnt make a movie like that now given what we know actually went on - and say some shyt like " well we wanted to tell the story of what we would like for it to have been " ....
this is what makes the movie a bad movie - the people who attacked the Capitol on January 6th were rioters and wanted to enable a coup chanted for the death of the vice president and caused death of people who just went to work that day .......if someone made a movie making them out to be just some folk that marched peacefully and were law abiding until they were "attacked" by the Govt that would be some bullshyt ....and you would rightly call that shyt a lie
this movie no matter how much you like what the story says - is ultimately a lie -
but the story of this movie is fantasy - the women warriors that it is based on they enslaved and captured blacks and were basically a mercenary force for those that did enslave black tribal people
this is whats so fukked up about this movie - it really is a fabrication but because it is something that gives a sense of pride or makes you feel good people want to dismiss what it really does which is create a false narrative no more real that the idea that Columbus was brave and was a explorer just intrested in the academic exploration of routes to the new world
you couldnt make a movie like that now given what we know actually went on - and say some shyt like " well we wanted to tell the story of what we would like for it to have been " ....
this is what makes the movie a bad movie - the people who attacked the Capitol on January 6th were rioters and wanted to enable a coup chanted for the death of the vice president and caused death of people who just went to work that day .......if someone made a movie making them out to be just some folk that marched peacefully and were law abiding until they were "attacked" by the Govt that would be some bullshyt ....and you would rightly call that shyt a lie
this movie no matter how much you like what the story says - is ultimately a lie -
The Amerikkkan Idol
The Amerikkkan Nightmare
Dude, the difference is that January 6th happened LAST YEAR.
The people who did that shyt are all still alive and politically relevant.
This movie basically IS fantasy just like all of the movies Hollywood makes about all those old kingdoms of Europe.
Do you think they're worried about historical accuracy when they're talking about the Brits & Romans?
No.
The problem is is that there's hundreds of movies about the Brits & Romans & Greeks, so nobody complains about shyt like this for real, but since this is the first movie of this type, people expect this to somehow be entertaining while at the same time educating everybody about 19th century West African politics.
It shouldn't have to do that.
This movie wasn't about Dahomey. It was about the Agojie woman fighters.
Just like "Braveheart" or all the other movies about White folks that get the fantasy treatment.
It's a Hollywood movie, not a documentary.
WhatsGoodTy
Ya feel me
Movie was fire. I won’t read though this thread cause I’m assuming it’s a lot of c00n’ing going on.
you absolutely illustrate the point im making - in ignorance about this issue you want to defend something that really is indefensible - because you speak as if the dahomey are separate from the Agojie; the dahomey WERE the agojie... the dahomey were the women warrior of a tribe that all profited from the practice of enslaving other africans to sell them to the europeans-
youre statement is akin to saying that there is a difference between texans and southerners when it comes to slavery... when the reality is texans were southerners and they participated in slavery... someone writing some fictionalized story about how the texans fought against slavery is a lie just like this movie is a lie - these women didnt fight against slavery - they faught for slavers and enabled the institution of slavery/
and saying it should be allowed to distort because noone reallyis around - thats silly - hell its about a subject that a lot of even africans are still affected by - lupita nyongo even left the film because the movie was a distortion of the truth because of the violence that that the tribe did to other africans
Lupita Nyong’o on ‘Woman King’ Departure: ‘It Wasn’t the Role for Me to Play’
Lupita Nyong'o explained she was cast in "The Woman King" opposite Viola Davis but ultimately parted ways with the project.
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and this further illustrates the point about a movie that is made to be a story what we want to here rather than about what really was the truth especially when its based on something like slavery which is already white washed minimized or just not even acknowledged in regular factual history.
need to educate yourself because you are more wanting to defend something because its shyt you like, rather than because its something that should be defended - what youre doing is no differnet than someone defending Gone with the Wind as acceptable eventhough its the very shyt that is all about whitewashing and minimizing racism and prejudice and romanticizing a Southern instituton that is rooted in brutality and inhumanity ....
At the Canal Olympia in Cotonou – the only cinema in Benin – the audience is on its feet clapping. Havens of tranquillity are few and far between in this buzzing 24-hour city, so this dark, air-conditioned theatre is usually a calming space. Not tonight.
Cinemagoers have just seen the rich history of their country, Dahomey, Benin’s former name, depicted in a Hollywood film: The Woman King. As Viola Davis’s army general, Nanisca, leads Dahomey’s Amazon warrior women against the Oyo empire and Portuguese slave-traders, they cheered, exhorted, laughed and groaned. When we see the port of Ouidah or the royal palaces as they might have looked back then, there are loud gasps of approval.
Today, Ouidah is a charming coastal city where faded colonial buildings in pastel hues line orange-brown dirt roads. Two centuries ago, it was one of west Africa’s largest slave ports on what was then known as the Slave Coast. The royal palaces of the Dahomey kingdom in Abomey are now Unesco world heritage sites – but physically they are ruins: only the tall, thick, earthen walls remain of the original structures. Director Gina Prince-Bythewood’s regal reimagining of these places – ruled over by King Ghezo (John Boyega) – gave 25-year-old student Synthia Onuoha “goosebumps”. Onuoha, whose mother is Beninese and father Nigerian, added: “[The film] revealed many emotions within me, particularly around the slave trade.”
Slavery is little taught in schools in west Africa – much like in Britain – perhaps because processing the role that Africans themselves played in supplying the transatlantic slave trade remains a contentious thing to formalise in local curriculums. The Woman King doesn’t duck the fact that the Dahomeyans and their all-female Amazon regiment captured rivals and sold them to Europeans.
Cinemagoers leaving the Canal Olympia in Cotono after a screening of The Woman King. Photograph: Joshua Surtees
The film does however portray them as heroes determined to change their ways – which has attracted criticism from some quarters. We see Ghezo ruminating over his decision to discontinue supplying slaves to Europeans – which Dahomey did on a huge scale, including captives from the Oyo empire who are portrayed here as the villains striking deals with slave traders. Ghezo decides selling palm oil is the right ethical decision.
It’s a fictionalised version of events, sure. But aren’t all films? “It’s not a documentary,” says local film-maker Aymar Esse. “Was Titanic a factual depiction of that historic event?” Onuoha’s only issue is that she would have liked to see more Beninese people among the cast of American, African and British actors, alongside the Beninese singer Angélique Kidjo who plays a cameo role.
Later I talk to a staff member over the sound of popcorn being made. She is wearing a T-shirt with the word “Agojie” on it – the word for the Amazons in the Beninese language Fon. In real-life, the highly skilled Agojie were deployed against the French army in major 19th-century battles. Bronte Degbelo, 27, has been working on the front desk at Canal Olympia for several years and says she’s never seen an African film bring people together like this. “All age groups come to see the film – parents, grandparents, children. It’s been nearly a month and it’s still sold out.”
Buying tickets for the new DC film Black Adam, Hugues Lokossa, 39, tells me he saw The Woman King in Abidjan in Ivory Coast while on a business trip. So what did Ivorians think? “They didn’t look at it as a movie from Benin but a movie from Africa. They felt ‘this film is talking to us – black people from Africa’. They were really proud – there was a huge line at the box office.”
“I was very proud to see Benin on the big screen. Even though the actors are English-speaking, they used songs and rhythms from our culture and words from one of our main languages – Fon.”
“For people who grew up in Benin there were songs you heard your grandmother sing that you hear in the movie. I can’t sing them myself, but if older people see this film there are songs they will relate to.”
Across west Africa, from Dakar to Lagos, there is a sense of socio-economic momentum and self-confidence about the region becoming a global force. A giant bronze statue of an Amazon warrior was recently erected near Cotonou’s palace of congress, and the presidential palace hosted a spectacular exhibition of Dahomey’s royal treasures, returned by France who looted them after overthrowing the Dahomey kingdom in 1894. (...)
‘It’s been nearly a month and it’s still sold out’: The Woman King takes over Benin’s only cinema
