THE “WILL SMITH SLAPPED CHRIS ROCK” MEGA THREAD

[breakfuss]

The attempts to squash discussion on this between brehs by calling us "c00ns" or "Karens" is telling. Dare I say had this been anyone but a black man on the receiving end of a televised assault, there would be no equivocation about whether it was truly an act of violence. But black men are expected to accept and internalize that type of behavior. Meanwhile we have to listen to shyt everyday about our "toxic masculinity", male privilege or perceived acts of aggression towards society. But against another black man alllllll that shyt goes out the window.

Ain't a single brother in here trying to see Will Smith cancelled so let's fukking drop that strawman. I don't care what white people or women, black or otherwise, have to say about this. We should be able to discuss this candidly amongst ourselves without all that forced intersectionality bullshyt. We're constantly being told that black men don't know how to resolve conflict, or black men don't know how to adequately protect our women, or black men lack emotional intelligence. Alright, bet, now a situation presented itself for us to unpack all that. What is the problem? We can remain on code without trivializing this to such a degree that "we're just gonna let Will slide and pray for him". fukk all that.

 

[get these nets]

If I'm exiting the situation and nikka says, "That's what the fukk I thought"

Or, "Now keep my wife's name out your fukking mouth"...

Welp, I'm not backing down and now shyt elevated.

Will was responsible for violations on EVERY LEVEL.

The smack.

Then, cornering another black man to not only eat the hit but now be forced to either tuck his tail between his legs. And he said it TWICE.


Again, on some black shyt, we have to talk about this fukk boy behavior. White people are going to say whatever they want, regardless.

The yelling from his seat seemed to be done to pre-empt another wisecrack from Chris.

In fact, I guessed that Will's delayed reaction to the joke was expecting a chaser/follow up joke.

Also, during his gig hosting the ceremony during Oscar's So White, he made jokes about Jada being irrelevant. "How are you going to boycott something you weren't invited to?"

In his sequence of 2022 jokes, he had bits about people who were nominees.....Denzel, Penelope Cruz+husband........... It didn't add up that his next joke was about non nominee Jada Pinkett. It should have been about Will Smith.

Out of his own mouth, Jada was a nobody 6 years ago. Her status as an actress hasn't risen since then. Why even make reference to her? And then go off script for that joke?

 

[jj23]

The yelling from his seat seemed to be done to pre-empt another wisecrack from Chris.

In fact, I guessed that Will's delayed reaction to the joke was expecting a chaser/follow up joke.

Also, during his gig hosting the ceremony during Oscar's So White, he made jokes about Jada being irrelevant. "How are you going to boycott something you weren't invited to?"

In his sequence of 2022 jokes, he had bits about people who were nominees.....Denzel, Penelope Cruz+husband........... It didn't add up that his next joke was about non nominee Jada Pinkett. It should have been about Will Smith.

Out of his own mouth, Jada was a nobody 6 years ago. Her status as an actress hasn't risen since then. Why even make reference to her? And then go off script for that joke?

She rose her status with red table talks and entanglement scandals.

He might have gone off script as it was a light hearted dig at folks he assumed could take a joke.

People he considered buddies. We stretching really far to find something sinister, it could just as easily and logically been innocent.

 

[Sccit]

The yelling from his seat seemed to be done to pre-empt another wisecrack from Chris.

In fact, I guessed that Will's delayed reaction to the joke was expecting a chaser/follow up joke.

Also, during his gig hosting the ceremony during Oscar's So White, he made jokes about Jada being irrelevant. "How are you going to boycott something you weren't invited to?"

In his sequence of 2022 jokes, he had bits about people who were nominees.....Denzel, Penelope Cruz+husband........... It didn't add up that his next joke was about non nominee Jada Pinkett. It should have been about Will Smith.

Out of his own mouth, Jada was a nobody 6 years ago. Her status as an actress hasn't risen since then. Why even make reference to her? And then go off script for that joke?

FIGURES THIS GUY IS CAPIN FOR THE CUCK

SMH

 

[DPresidential]

The yelling from his seat seemed to be done to pre-empt another wisecrack from Chris.[I disagree. It was a further icing on the cake ego shyt. On some, let me show exactly how shook this nikka is.]

In fact, I guessed that Will's delayed reaction to the joke was expecting a chaser/follow up joke.[This is what makes Will's actions worse. He expected something harder than the GI JANE joke. I think Jada rolling her eyes was more,"uh oh, here we go..." and less "My God, I'm so offended!]

Also, during his gig hosting the ceremony during Oscar's So White, he made jokes about Jada being irrelevant. "How are you going to boycott something you weren't invited to?"[Yes, the first part of that bit that no one talks about is him saying, "Isn't she on a tv show? TV shows are covered by Emmys and not Oscars.]

In his sequence of 2022 jokes, he had bits about people who were nominees.....Denzel, Penelope Cruz+husband........... It didn't add up that his next joke was about non nominee Jada Pinkett. It should have been about Will Smith.[True, it could be argued that he knew what Will must be going through with the trolling so he went after the stronger person. Trying not to kick the low hanging fruit.]

Out of his own mouth, Jada was a nobody 6 years ago. Her status as an actress hasn't risen since then. Why even make reference to her? And then go off script for that joke?[°Again, many reasons. Maybe that 2016 was harsh and here, he gave a light hearted one to show that it's all in fun. Maybe it is the reason I stated above.]

No.

He said, "Isn't she in a TV SHOW? [Implying, Emmy's would be her place. Not Oscar's.]"

That was the first thing he said before the Rihanna's panties thing.

That has been ignored by alot of people.

He was not implying she was a nobody at all.

 

[DPresidential]

The attempts to squash discussion on this between brehs by calling us "c00ns" or "Karens" is telling. Dare I say had this been anyone but a black man on the receiving end of a televised assault, there would be no equivocation about whether it was truly an act of violence. But black men are expected to accept and internalize that type of behavior. Meanwhile we have to listen to shyt everyday about our "toxic masculinity", male privilege or perceived acts of aggression towards society. But against another black man alllllll that shyt goes out the window.

Ain't a single brother in here trying to see Will Smith cancelled so let's fukking drop that strawman. I don't care what white people or women, black or otherwise, have to say about this. We should be able to discuss this candidly amongst ourselves without all that forced intersectionality bullshyt. We're constantly being told that black men don't know how to resolve conflict, or black men don't know how to adequately protect our women, or black men lack emotional intelligence. Alright, bet, now a situation presented itself for us to unpack all that. What is the problem? We can remain on code without trivializing this to such a degree that "we're just gonna let Will slide and pray for him". fukk all that.

Aye,

Black man, I love you for this take.

 

[GreenGhxst]

Okay.

But, I'm concerned about the black man who was SONNED.

I can't even fathom being sonned like that.

I'm am attorney. I have a family. I have property.

And even still, to this day, I'm actively trying to dismantle the type of "protect your manhood" mentality that has jammed many people up.

I mean it, I've had situations in the street where I have thrown all that shyt out the window because of some real disrespect.

(Not proud of that at all. It's actually a handcuffing experience.)

I say that to say, the thing Will did, had he done that to me...

I'd be on some scorch the earth shyt.

You don't publicly make me look like a bytch or take advantage of a situation to puff your chest out at my expense.

I feel we have a responsibility to keep discussing the damage to Chris and the violation by Will.

Young black boys do not need anymore fukkboy mentality seeping into the way they handle shyt.

My goal, in a confrontation, is ALWAYS to maintain a level of pride and respect being perceived of me by anyone watching and by the other breh that I'm in the confrontation with.

We both do not want to fight. You learn that - outside of the small amount of nikkas on demon time - both parties just want to be able to survive the confrontation without being embarassed.

It's why both me and another nikka could be in each other's faces and yelling our side but it can cool down.

If I'm exiting the situation and nikka says, "That's what the fukk I thought"

Or, "Now keep my wife's name out your fukking mouth"...

Welp, I'm not backing down and now shyt elevated.

Will was responsible for violations on EVERY LEVEL.

The smack.

Then, cornering another black man to not only eat the hit but now be forced to either tuck his tail between his legs. And he said it TWICE.


Again, on some black shyt, we have to talk about this fukk boy behavior. White people are going to say whatever they want, regardless.

Should've kept his wife's name out of his mouth

This is not the first time Chris went in on Jada

Please show me a clip where Chris goes in on an individual white woman like that

Also, nobody told Chris to back down

I know if somebody smacked me like that and I'm stunned and don't hit back

I'm going all the way in on your wife now

Now, Will did violate and he was completely out of line but I do not think he should be assassinated for it

Hell, at the end of the day at least he did it in the name of his wife and not some random homie or gang

I agree though, white people gone white

 

[DPresidential]

Should've kept his wife's name out of his mouth[Why? He's a professional comedian. Also, we aren't talking about Denzel's or Spike Lee's wives. We are talking about a fellow actor in the business; Jada.
Why should Jada be protected from a personal jab? Are we infant-tizing our women?
And, again, is there evidence that Chris was warned not to speak on Jada?

That's some cornball shyt, breh.
Imagine going to a comedy show or an awards show where it is common place for these millionaires to be made fun of and expecting some type of pass regarding jokes.]

This is not the first time Chris went in on Jada[Right. I'm sure many comedians haven't just talked about a celebrity one time in their shows. This means nothing unless he's taking every oppurtunity in his shows to diss her.]

Please show me a clip where Chris goes in on an individual white woman like that

Also, nobody told Chris to back down

I know if somebody smacked me like that and I'm stunned and don't hit back[Speaking of mental health of our fellow black men; Chris suffers from years of bullying and trauma and he has Non Verbal Learning Disorder.]

I'm going all the way in on your wife now[But he didn't...which leans more towards Chris didn't have a disrespectful intent otherwise he would have gone in]

Now, Will did violate and he was completely out of line but I do not think he should be assassinated for it[As @breakfuss stated above...nor does any black man in here who is speaking on this.

We are calling out fukkboy shyt as if it was happening on the block. That's it.]

Hell, at the end of the day at least he did it in the name of his wife and not some random homie or gang[I said this before, nikka didn't even really find out exactly how his wife felt. He made the decision for her. That's weird.

He should have really found out how she really felt. Was it mere annoyance? Was it all out offended?

Nah, fukk that, I'm just smacking this nikka in order to shut him up about her...meanwhile, I then create a flood gate of the world making fun of her.

nikka was moving very off, breh. I'm sorry.]

I agree though, white people gone white

 

[get these nets]

No.

He said, "Isn't she in a TV SHOW? [Implying, Emmy's would be her place. Not Oscar's.]"

That was the first thing he said before the Rihanna's panties thing.

That has been ignored by alot of people.

He was not implying she was a nobody at all.

Good point, but the audience of the Oscars was filled with celebs from different backgrounds. Including film and TV actors.
You can see them yourself. Unless they had films out that year, I recognize some tv stars when they pan into the audience.




The punchline and the crowd reaction was definitely because of the implication that she didn't/doesn't rate

 

[GreenGhxst]

....

I agree to an extent with a lot of your bolded points, but it's his wife, he already knows how she feels about it

Just because he laughs initially... it could be uncomfortability

Then when he saw and thought about all of the emotional pain his wife has suffered behind closed doors from her condition it sent him

Jada has tried many different procedures for her alopecia and none of them really worked well, so I'm sure Will is well acquainted with how she feels

I'm not excusing any of his behaviors, but my point is that he definitely deserves more compassion than he's being shown by black men, which is the most surprising thing to me

Chris is receiving his due compassion, he didn't deserve to be smacked, but I will not lie. A small part of me isn't mad at it.

I am extremely tired of these crackers, the people who are leading the world in violence globally shouldn't have a fukkin thing to say. Like y'all white asses never seen violence before, or colonized entire countries

 

[DPresidential]

Good point, but the audience of the Oscars was filled with celebs from different backgrounds. Including film and TV actors.
You can see them yourself. Unless they had films out that year, I recognize some tv stars when they pan into the audience.




The punchline and the crowd reaction was definitely because of the implication that she didn't/doesn't rate

No, I am not saying that the audience was strictly movie stars.

That being said, I still think the joke, in its entirety, offers more than saying Jada is just not relevant.

Otherwise, he would not have included, "Jada is BOYCOTTING the oscars. I mean, isn't she on a tv show?"

He's a master comedian; every word is important.

 

[spliz]

Good point, but the audience of the Oscars was filled with celebs from different backgrounds. Including film and TV actors.
You can see them yourself. Unless they had films out that year, I recognize some tv stars when they pan into the audience.




The punchline and the crowd reaction was definitely because of the implication that she didn't/doesn't rate

Nah he straight up minimized the boycott. He minimized who she was in Hollywood and as an actress. And he got roaring applause and damn near standing ovation for it. He had the whole Hollywood laughing at Jada. And I can’t stand that bytch but that shyt he pulled in 2016 was some shuck and jiving disrespectful shyt.

 

[up in here]

You're right.

fukk those white people.

What space can we discuss this shyt without being derailed into giving disclaimers about white people.

This is the closest I have to the barbershop vibe online.


Lol, I am but I take this serious because I see so much to talk about because it touches on aot of the dynamics that go on.

Let me chill. I think I've overstayed my welcome on this shyt.

I concede that I've been typing walls of text.

Respect.

I’ll tell you exactly what got discussed in my barbershop.

some folks thought Jada gassed Will up previously and he was just showing out. some joked that Pac would have beat Chris ass.

some folks said Chris been low key hating on Jada and probably got rejected by her in the past.

some folks said Chris went too far and deserved the slap. Some said that’s what comedians do.

some folks respected that he ate the slap and kept it professional. Some folks said he should have slapped back or came with another joke.

Some said Will sonned him. Some said Will looked like a fool, but no one called Chris a bytch.

Not one person said Will should be arrested and charged. Not one person said he should give the Oscar back or quit the academy. Not one person called the slap an assault. Not one person said Will should be banned from Hollywood or dropped from films.

It was a slap breh. A fukking slap

 

[Zero]

The math ain't mathing... Jada and Chris last co-starred in a movie together in 2012. Yet people here said he's been picking on her for 25+ years? Where exactly does the supposed rabbit hole begin?

It began exactly when they got that talking point from social media because they're still trying to excuse Will's actions because they liked Fresh Prince back in the day

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Whoopi Goldberg Swats Away Will Smith Doomsayers: “He Will Be Fine” – Deadline
Whoopi Goldberg Swats Away Will Smith Doomsayers: “He Will Be Fine”

Whoopi Goldberg asked and answered her own question about Will Smith’s future today, practically rolling her eyes as she read the set-up question for the Hot Topic discussion on Smith’s career.

“Some of Will Smith’s future projects are in question,” Goldberg said, reading the intro. “The question is does he have a path back?” After chuckling at her own question, she quickly followed with a dismissive, “Yes, of course he does. He’ll be fine. He’ll be back. No worries.”

Unlike last week’s View episodes, when Goldberg, who is a member of the Academy’s Board of Governors and a former Oscar host, discussed Smith’s slap of Chris Rock at length, she and the rest of the View panel today seemed weary of the exhausted topic and moved on fairly quickly.

After Goldberg’s intro, co-host Ana Navarro said, “I’m so tired of talking about this I’d like to slap myself,” adding that she’d prefer to be talking about Clarence and Ginni Thomas but recognizes that the slap has become a cultural talking point.

“He’s had over 30 years of a career,” Navarro continued about Smith, “where he’s had a very positive image, been a positive role model, he’s been very philanthropic, he’s done all sorts of things. None of us should be judged by our worst moment.”

Smith resigned from the Academy last week.

It happened to the right black celebrity as almost anyone else outside of Will wouldn’t be as fortunate and we all surely can admit that. Even Whoopi whose as decorated in her career as she is got surpressed for years after the George Bush joke she made until she got The View gig and even then, she’s never reached the level previously she used to be.

Hopefully he’s still not planning on the Red Table talk as all it’s going to do is stoke the flames. Should have done the morning talk show route and kept it moving.