Let me be clear - despite my pushback, this is by far the weirdest fukking story to come out in the whole thing. The fact that it's all hearsay and the various logical holes I'm pointing out are what make me push back....but everything surrounding the story is really fukking weird. I find this far more interesting than any photos or videos that have come out, because if he's not a compulsive liar, the either he's a really bad judge of the trustworthiness of other people or what the hell?
It's definitely holding my attention for longer than anything else that has come out at all point in the "reveal".
Like any good UFO-buff, of course the idea of a "false flag" has come to mind too. It would be pretty sad but also low-key funny if this is basically a huge orchestrated con to fukk with this one guy and thus discredit any other whistleblowers. There could even be an in-between version of that that's somewhat more plausible - maybe this guy just comes off as a gullible mark who was looking for a deeper story, and every nut or a$$hole who wanted to fukk around with someone got wind of it and gave him what he wanted.
I wouldn't necessarily say a global cover-up, but I do think that many (all?) investigations into UFOs/UAPs loop in governmental agencies at some point, and at the least, I don't expect them to throw their hands up and publicly state "We don't know what it is" and set off a panic within their country, and so basically, there was possibly times they called it a 'weather balloon' to quell fears.
But what about before then? It would be in private hands first, and they would take pictures, show their friends, post on social media, etc. So do these things look totally benign, and they only reveal themselves as non-human on close examination? Drones have only been around a little while, so until the last 10-15 years there wouldn't even have been a plausible "benign" explanation. How did not only our government, but all the governments manage to cover up so effectively?
If 999/1000 are fake, that 0.001 of the time adds up over the decades + countries.
This is a terrible logical fallacy for any phenomena though. The more plausible logic is that if 999/1000 are fake, then the other 1/1000 are likely fake too.
I think you are in the top percentile of informed posters on the site but I do want to point out how much of a black swan event this could/would be, and w/ most black swan events, prior understanding, experiences and probabilities all become moot and need to be reconfigured to account for new data. Not to say that the official is stating facts necessarily, but just to objectively point out that we have moved away from doctored images/crackpot social media territory when news sources and high ranking military officials speak up, and so we should slow down the desire to discredit.
For me, it's almost not even what I think about UFOs that's driving my skepticism right now, but what I know of government. Governments just aren't this competent. Look at the various FBI investigations into Trump, for instance. Even for something insanely important ("is our president collaborating with the enemy in Russia?"), you have people bumbling up the investigation, people believing really bad sources, people with clear bias in both directions, people leaking shyt, people leaking shyt that isn't true, people making terrible strategic decisions....there are so many fukkups once you get enough people involved. And that goes for literally every function of government - you always end up with leaks, they always show infighting and a certain mix of competence and incompetence, etc.
To believe this story, we have to believe there is a shadow-set of government operations, one that infiltrates numerous departments (law enforcement, intelligence, defense, scientific research, space program, probably even environmental monitoring and border security, the president's team, and at least some portion of the legislative and judicial branches too), and that this shadow group is demonstrably more competent than literally every other part of government we know about, such that they've been able to maintain incredible operational security for decades until now. One that to put it bluntly, operates differently than we know every part of government to operate. And that EVERY government across the world has this similarly competent shadow side. Why hasn't Putin released any info about their UFOs, just to fukk up the world cause he's in a tight spot and dying of cancer anyway? Why hasn't a loose cannon like Duterte or Bolsonaro released it? Why not Kim Jung-il? Why not a socialist president somewhere, or a anti-colonial african leader, or some libertarian free speech ideologue? How is everyone so clearly in agreement from every culture and philosophy that ALL governments are maintaining such uniformity on the issue?
And the fact that this is so groundbreaking, yet EVERY government on Earth is acting so damn normal with their exact same petty issues as always, not a single one moving as if there's some society-changing event going on right as we speak...how?
Maybe this is a better way of framing things... I'm sure governmental agencies have a Standard Operating Procedure in place for the extremely remote possibility that they come across extra-terrestrial artifacts. I cannot expect that 'informing the public' is a high-ranking possibility on any country's list given the impact that it would have on our relations w/ other countries, let alone our own citizens.
In the USA, I'm not talking about the government informing the public. I'm talking about all the different ways it would get leaked by private individuals or rogue government officials who disagree with the official decision. But yeah, government too when we look internationally, because 200 different governments don't have one standard operating procedure.
this shyt. The New York Times or Washing Post is gonna have to co-sign something like this for people to really care, otherwise it will be forgotten about in 2-3 days by the general public
