The UFO/UAP disclosure thread
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ill
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They need to just tell people enough of the bullshyt and the religion excuse. Humans are ready to know what is out there. The little sprinkle of information being told by NASA and Military take too long.
What if the truth is something so terrible that maybe it's better we don't know? Can you imagine such scenarios?
Breh, it's obvious as hell by now that there is no secret cabal of people who "really know about aliens". Literally everyone who has had any actual connection has admitted they don't really know shyt, and only the charlatans have tried to play up anything further.
Who is the "they" who know, and how have they been able to keep this secret for so long? Nixon couldn't even keep an election plot between 6 guys secret. Trump can't even keep the secret that he's moving boxes around in his own crib. But some sort of alien communication/technology plot that would have to involve literally thousands of people over decades has been a total secret with perfect operational security...how?
Who is it who actually knows anything, anything whatsoever? Name one such person.
Got a better source? Like, anything with actual journalism cred?
The story off the top is unlikely as hell. So supposedly these crafts are crashing all over. And the USA is recovering some...and Russia is recovering some....and China is recovering some....but what about the ones that crash in, say, Serbia? Or Ecuador? Or Mali? Or Thailand? Who keeps them from being exposed? Even the ones that crash in the USA, how do they get to them in time without them being exposed?
According to that site's story, not only is the USA engaged in a coverup, but every government across the world is managing to cover up conclusive proof of aliens that are appearing all over the planet at random, unpredictable times.
It doesn't pass the smell test for me. My best guess is that it's a completely manufactured story, front to back. Second best guess is it's one lone goofy wolf.
ill
Superstar
I only posted a news article and provided zero opinion on the article.
It's an interesting read that was supposedly cleared by the DoD. The journalists that lack credibility in your mind are the same ones that were published in the NY Times story about the DoD allocating money to the UFO issue. Blumenthal has been with the NY Times for literal decades. I'm not sure they lack as much credibility as you let on.
Bob Lazar, peace be upon him.
It's the magazine that lacks credibility. Looks like they've published some really goofy things in the past.
When I wrote that, I didn't know whether the journalists had even wrote it. I've done more research and verified that they have. However, Leslie Kean seems to be mostly a paranormal writer who also writes about people's experiences in the afterlife and does Coast-to-Coast interviews in addition to her "serious" UFO work. Blumenthal is 82 years old and hasn't been with the NYT for nearly 15 years and appears to write mostly UFO stuff now.
The way the piece is rolled out is decidedly odd. If it's all credible, then why publish it here? If the guy is who he says he is, then what would be the drawback of going to a normal reporter and giving them the story? This would be the break of a lifetime, why wouldn't a journalist jump all over it if she could vet the people involved? If the DOD vetted it and approves, then they wouldn't block a normal paper from covering it. So why release it in some weird no-name UFO outlet with virtually no rollout? The circumstances are very odd.
More reputable:
Ex–Intelligence Official Says Government Hiding Alien Technology From Congress
A whistleblower on the Pentagon’s UFO investigation team claims there is evidence of “intact” alien vehicles being hidden from lawmakers.
nymag.com
It's worth noting that the authors from the Debrief post previously worked for the NYT and published their popular UFO/UAP article in 2017. So they were vetted as the real-deal Holyfield back in the day to be w/ NYT. It's possible that they just got stuck in a rabbit hole since then, but I'll hear them out personally
I wouldn't necessarily say a global cover-up, but I do think that many (all?) investigations into UFOs/UAPs loop in governmental agencies at some point, and at the least, I don't expect them to throw their hands up and publicly state "We don't know what it is" and set off a panic within their country, and so basically, there was possibly times they called it a 'weather balloon' to quell fears. If 999/1000 are fake, that 0.001 of the time adds up over the decades + countries.
I think you are in the top percentile of informed posters on the site but I do want to point out how much of a black swan event this could/would be, and w/ most black swan events, prior understanding, experiences and probabilities all become moot and need to be reconfigured to account for new data. Not to say that the official is stating facts necessarily, but just to objectively point out that we have moved away from doctored images/crackpot social media territory when news sources and high ranking military officials speak up, and so we should slow down the desire to discredit.
Maybe this is a better way of framing things... I'm sure governmental agencies have a Standard Operating Procedure in place for the extremely remote possibility that they come across extra-terrestrial artifacts. I cannot expect that 'informing the public' is a high-ranking possibility on any country's list given the impact that it would have on our relations w/ other countries, let alone our own citizens.
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I think I speak for most ppl when I say NewsNation is not where I'd go to break
I can appreciate that the reporter did seek to (lightly) push back on the possibility that this is 3rd-hand knowledge that is being reported on. He hasn't seen any of this personally, just that someone confided in him. Personally, the two parts that stuck w/ me the most is that the former NYT journalist said that multiple unaffiliated sources corroborated the story, and the mention that DoD hasn't released any statement contradicting the story
Rakim needs a UFO to land on his lawn before believing. Even then, he’d prolly call it a giant drone
