I think if Elizondo wants to speculate, then that’s fine. And I should listen before taking the cliff notes at face value. But if he’s saying for certain that he knows exactly what beings we’re dealing with, and other fantastical things, I’d just want to know what he’s basing that off of.
I've noticed that in mainstream interviews he sticks to the more easily digested narrative that we've seen parroted across the major news outlets. However, in longform interviews (podcasts) where the audience tends to be folks that are generally more 'informed', he is a lot more expressive about what he believes this phenomenon is. Whether these statements are based on the evidence he's seen or if he's just drawing his own conclusions-- we won't know until we know. What we do know is that the powers that be are clearly behind him, and if he were some rambling crackpot they would have shut him down already IMO. He's definitely not some pseudo-whistleblower (not that he was ever purported to be). It's my personal opinion that he's been told to stick to more surface level talk in the shorter mainstream interviews, and that the more obscure podcasts and interviews are a 'beta test' of sorts to gauge how people respond certain information regarding the true nature of our reality. Does any of this have merit? I don't have a clue. Only time and hopefully some transparency can answer that.
From what Mellon, Reid, and Elizondo have stated-- the original footage is properly high definition. It's intentionally degraded to conceal our capabilities from adversaries. Remember how folks in the intelligence community were flipping out when Trump tweeted that image from one of our spy satellites? Actual experts on satellite imagery were stunned that it could take such detailed images-- they thought it was from a drone or plane. Former DNI Director Ratcliffe said we have satellite imagery of these things as well-- so that further corroborates that the available data is hi res.@Outlaw isn’t doing step 2 though. And step 2 is a slight straw man.
I get the impression that this is just a logical extension of taking “pics or it didn’t happen” to the extreme.
Honestky, speaking personally, I don’t care as much about the blurry video (taken miles away from fighter jets that aren’t built for video recording things by the way). What is way more interesting to me is the radar data that corroborates exactly what these elite fighter pilots witnesses, as well as the clear astonishment in their voices. As well as this vehicle jamming their radar. I mean come on. How is a bird or a balloon or a something unimpressive going to jam their radar while they’re engaging it?
I don’t care so much that I’m looking at a blurry dot. These are highly trained professionals that are clearly seeing something wild and it’s being reinforced with radar data, etc.
I forgot all about that Trump tweet. You’re exactly right.
Stop wasting your time. He shows up in every UAP/UFO thread with the same schtick. He harps on about his STEM degree and how he interned with NASA before posting walls of text meant to intentionally distort and deflect. For whatever reason, he has a real vested interest in trying to convince folks that this is all nonsense and nothing is really happening. It's weird. He talks about 'science', but habitually draws conclusions first and outright dismisses any information that doesn't jibe with his views.@Outlaw isn’t doing step 2 though. And step 2 is a slight straw man.
I get the impression that this is just a logical extension of taking “pics or it didn’t happen” to the extreme.
Honestky, speaking personally, I don’t care as much about the blurry video (taken miles away from fighter jets that aren’t built for video recording things by the way). What is way more interesting to me is the radar data that corroborates exactly what these elite fighter pilots witnesses, as well as the clear astonishment in their voices. As well as this vehicle jamming their radar. I mean come on. How is a bird or a balloon or a something unimpressive going to jam their radar while they’re engaging it?
I don’t care so much that I’m looking at a blurry dot. These are highly trained professionals that are clearly seeing something wild and it’s being reinforced with radar data, etc.
The thing is he literally can't say what it is for certain. Despite people thinking that he's a gigantic fraud in this thread he still maintains security clearance and still works for the US govt. He cannot and will not violate his NDA with the govt.
Which is a terrible mentality to have on any subject. Especially one he actually doesn't know about. The way he talks you would assume he works for the govt. Himself.
Interning at NASA is really cool. I’d be curious if he was a little more interested knowing that NASA (who apparently has scoffed at the notion of looking into UFOs for their history) is suddenly very curious and making it one of their goals to study.
It sounds cool to intern there. I'm sure it's an amazing opportunity. Also from what we're hearing everyone is getting briefed. So it may be easy to overlook things like this until high ranking govt officials show up at your door and literally tell you something is coming and to anticipate it. As that's that's been happening with Sam Harris and Neil. And the nasa administrator has said he's been briefed as well. To me, that's very compelling. If not, an outright answer to what is about to happen.
No, I've never said there was "nothing there". I think most of the sightings are of aircraft or drones. The optical illusions I was referring to are where you misjudge the speed, size, or relative motion of a distant object against an uncertain background cause the human eye/brain isn't meant to judge things accurately without a known reference point.
There's no evidence that anyone is "behind him", and if they are that means he's a liar, because he says he left the government cause no one took UFOs seriously. The government doesn't go around randomly shutting down private persons working for private companies. If he government was really behind him, do you think they'd send him to a crackpot like Tom DeLonge who regularly spouts ridiculous nonsense and whose only qualification was being able to the entertainment/media angle well? If this was all government-run do you really think his company would be as focused on apparel and media profits (not to mention running a $37 million deficit at one point) as they are on actually trying to figure out what's going on?
This is yet another claim without evidence. If we had high-def footage from 2004, then wouldn't we have been taking it seriously? Yet the AATIP program only ran from 2009-2012, only because Senator Harry Reid wanted to direct some political graft to a donor, and the government otherwise didn't take it seriously be Elizondo's own words. If we already had all this high-def footage showing something definitive then both the government and Elizondo have been lying to us.
Show. The. Evidence.
The optical illusions I was speaking of are usually based on a real object. Parallax is when you misjudge how far away an object is (or how far away it is from another reference point) and thus misinterpret its relative speed. A completely stationary object can appear to be moving at a high rate of speed just because of how you're observing the background relative to your own movement. And autokinetic illusions are when you observe a distant, small object without a concrete background and your eyes interpret the object as moving erratically cause you have no reference point to compare it to.
