KillerB88
Superstar
Why do you think it's crazy?Lue ain’t doing no favors by saying this crazy shyt
The UFO/UAP disclosure thread
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Watch too much stargate SG1 brehs
Yeah he’s def on bullshytter status
Some of y'all need to come get your mans.
I don't even know where to begin.
* First off, once again Elizondo and Delonge making MASSIVE yet completely cryptic claims, and once again supplying zero evidence.
* Not only claiming knowledge of events across the world, but also claiming to have deeper knowledge of physics than any physicist and deeper knowledge of human psychology than any neuroscientist
* Somehow, the same guy who wrote a resignation letter just 5 years ago complaining that the government wasn't taking UFOs seriously is also implying that the government has communicated with UFO occupants and recovered bodies and that alien spacecraft have military liaisons on them
* WFT does he get all this extremely detailed biological and social knowledge of "aliens" from? "Humans" on other planets, living bands of light, non-corporeal energy beings, car-sized amoebas? Where would you even BEGIN to get that knowledge?
* "species and 'existences' on this planet which have come and gone before us"? WTF is he talking about and where did he get this knowledge? Quantum, fractals, "these patterns are deliberate".....so is he going into some intelligent design stuff or what?
* Nordic aliens
* "Battle of Los Angeles"
There are three options:
#1. To The Stars, despite having being a struggling entertainment/media company for several years that focuses on producing cheesy cable shows, is actually run by the two most knowledgeable people on the planet who know more about physics, psychology, and history than all scientists and historians combined....but don't have the slightest interest in sharing the actual details with anyone.
#2. To The Stars is run by goofy quacks who just say shyt without having a fukking clue what they are talking about.
#3. To The Stars is a grift
Which is it?
Leavingtheecstasy
All Star
Imma wait on Lue. He was the head of ufo program.
I'm pretty sure he of all people will know how this looks if he turns out to be a gigantic bullshytter considering he's made himself so public
I'm pretty sure he of all people will know how this looks if he turns out to be a gigantic bullshytter considering he's made himself so public
KillerB88
Superstar
Leavingtheecstasy
All Star
When Sam Harris starts talking like it's real that's when most people need to think about it
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I'm in the camp that the universe is far too old and far too vast for us to be the only form of life in it, but are the personnel reporting these objects actually seeing them or reading the anomalies on a display? Could be testing of new stealth tech that evades/confuses current sensors.
KillerB88
Superstar
KillerB88
Superstar
The last few pages of this thread are laced with articles. Take 10 minutes out of your day and actually read one.
Leavingtheecstasy
All Star
David fravor and the three others flying with him that day has said that all 4 of them have seen it. As far as the public knows this is the most legitimate sighting in modern history. He didn't just get eyes on it, he literally was chasing it down and it would mimic the movements his plane was doing.
Leavingtheecstasy
All Star
Man it's so weird how much momentum is shifting on this.
I think as a society we've become so disillusioned with our government and "good" or for a better word extraordinary things happening and them being a part of it. That is very Understandable tbh. The government has never had our backs and tbh has actively sought out to hurt us. The country is what they have to preserve, the individuals in it don't matter to them, sheep to the slaughter.
So I do understand why there is alot of pushback in this thread. But I am going on a limb and trusting Lue elizondo until proven otherwise. Maybe this is real, and governments and agencies all across the world are pretty much confirming that this is real and that this issue is bigger than our govt lining up their pockets. It's bigger than all of us at this point.
I think as a society we've become so disillusioned with our government and "good" or for a better word extraordinary things happening and them being a part of it. That is very Understandable tbh. The government has never had our backs and tbh has actively sought out to hurt us. The country is what they have to preserve, the individuals in it don't matter to them, sheep to the slaughter.
So I do understand why there is alot of pushback in this thread. But I am going on a limb and trusting Lue elizondo until proven otherwise. Maybe this is real, and governments and agencies all across the world are pretty much confirming that this is real and that this issue is bigger than our govt lining up their pockets. It's bigger than all of us at this point.
Leavingtheecstasy
All Star
But then again
This is one of the most obvious tells of an optical illusion. Not necessarily that the object wasn't there, but due to atmospheric conditions and lack of perspective you misinterpret your own relative movements as movements of the object you're looking at (see the parallax effect videos from earlier in the thread and then look up "autokinetic" illusions which are common among pilots). Thus you think you're "chasing" it but it always stays ahead of you, and every time you move the object "mimics" your move.
Think about it logically, it doesn't make any sense for a chased object to mimic the movements of the thing chasing it...but it makes perfect sense if you know how optical illusions work. You know it's an illusion cause you never actually get closer, you never actually catch the object and you're never able to make out the details, you're just perpetually chasing it.
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
Logic is out the window if the object is truly alien. You don’t think Aliens would be smart enough to develop a highly sophisticated auto pilot that can match the movements of other crafts?
Applying our understanding of physics on ufos is like a medieval scholar trying to understand quantum computing
What do you mean, "if"? Did you not read those excerpts?
Once again (as he'd done many times before), Elizondo is making broad ridiculous claims without giving any evidence. And of course he doesn't have the evidence - there is an obvious contradiction between the ridiculous things Elizondo is saying and his complaints that the government doesn't take UFOs seriously. If anything he was saying was true then he wouldn't have to complain about the government not paying attention to UFOs...but he expects his fan base to ignore the contradiction. He's the classic modern grifter, dropping out vague hints and stringing you along so you tune in for the next reveal....which will just be something else vague and inconclusive so that you tune in for another reveal to follow.
The AATIP program that Luis Elizondo headed was never serious in the first place, it was just political graft meant to funnel government money to one of Harry Reid's donors. If it was serious, why would they have given all the contracts to the donor (and gotten nothing from him)? If it was serious, why would they have put Elizondo in charge despite him just being a field agent and his only qualification being a UFO enthusiast with zero background in physics, flight, or space? If it was serious, why would they have closed up the program after 3 years once Reid's original funding dried up instead of allocating another funding insertion?
If Elizondo was serious about UFOs, then why did he join up with Tom Delonge, a rock star with a history of making ridiculous UFO statements, and immediately start promoting his media company and line of hip apparel, fictional books, DVDs and cable TV shows? Why build up this "mysterious" image with suspenseful music and vague reveals while never saying anything of substance? When you google "To The Stars", you only get the vaguest claims of "scientific research", the vaguest claims of "craft of extraterrestrial origin", but you're bombarded by brand names, shirts with price tags and links to the "entertainment division". Y'all need to recognize a clear grift when you see it.
