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Exactly how would the IRS use its enforcement powers on a State?

The IRS doesn't have an Army, Navy, Air Force or Space Force.

It's underfunded as it is.

The idea that a Governor can't do this, in the era of Trump who's broken all types of norms, codes, rules, and laws - is ludicrous.

The better question is how could the State of California actually accomplish this. The logistics would be a nightmare.
Yeah people need to really come to terms that a Felon is the president. Norms mean shytl the RULES mean shyt. It’s use to be what can you get away with, now it’s what can they enforce?
 

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I'm planning to move to Detroit Michigan but with it being a red state, Chicago might have to be the play. Might as well be on somewhat safe grounds

Detroit is 80% black, you're safe. Most republicans in Michigan are moderate(still irritating) unlike down south. They know better than to try anything foolish in r or around Detroit.
 

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Exactly how would the IRS use its enforcement powers on a State?

The IRS doesn't have an Army, Navy, Air Force or Space Force.

It's underfunded as it is.

The idea that a Governor can't do this, in the era of Trump who's broken all types of norms, codes, rules, and laws - is ludicrous.

The better question is how could the State of California actually accomplish this. The logistics would be a nightmare.

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The IRS, doesn't need a military force to enforce tax compliance. The IRS has extensive legal tools & administrative powers to ensure the payment of taxes.

"If a sanctuary state like California were to try to withhold federal taxes, the IRS would enforce federal tax collection through:

  • Direct withholding from individuals or businesses in the state.
  • Penalties and interest on unpaid taxes.
  • Seizing state assets, including state-owned property and federal funds sent to the state.
  • Court actions to compel the state to comply with federal tax obligations.
The IRS has the full weight of federal law behind it & it has the legal authority to collect taxes and impose severe consequences for non-compliance. A state would find it nearly impossible to block or avoid paying federal taxes without significant legal and financial ramifications."

In summary, the IRS cannot be stopped by any state government when it comes to collecting federal taxes,.
 

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Detroit is 80% black, you're safe. Most republicans in Michigan are moderate(still irritating) unlike down south. They know better than to try anything foolish in r or around Detroit.
Michigan also leads the country in black on white murders.

They act up in Michigan, nikkas here ain't scared to lay them folks down.

Like I said, last year at this time I was in a section in the county jail with 4 black dudes who bodied white boys.

Them mfers die up here and that shyt will jump to another level if MAGA feels like they run shyt.
 

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Michigan also leads the country in black on white murders.

They act up in Michigan, nikkas here ain't scared to lay them folks down.

Like I said, last year at this time I was in a section in the county jail with 4 black dudes who bodied white boys.

Them mfers die up here and that shyt will jump to another level if MAGA feels like they run shyt.
Might go to Michigan due to the cost of living and black folk there I truss the Detroit guys


Besides, I listen to Babytron and Teejayx6
 

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The IRS, doesn't need a military force to enforce tax compliance. The IRS has extensive legal tools & administrative powers to ensure the payment of taxes.

"If a sanctuary state like California were to try to withhold federal taxes, the IRS would enforce federal tax collection through:

  • Direct withholding from individuals or businesses in the state.
  • Penalties and interest on unpaid taxes.
  • Seizing state assets, including state-owned property and federal funds sent to the state.
  • Court actions to compel the state to comply with federal tax obligations.
The IRS has the full weight of federal law behind it & it has the legal authority to collect taxes and impose severe consequences for non-compliance. A state would find it nearly impossible to block or avoid paying federal taxes without significant legal and financial ramifications."

In summary, the IRS cannot be stopped by any state government when it comes to collecting federal taxes,.
Yeah good luck doing that when he's going to slash their funding. They only have so many lawyers being paid shyt wages compared to if they worked for the private sector.

They may not be stopped, but if you're going up against the 5th largest economy on earth, you'll need a little more funding to keep the fight going.

Especially if other states decide to follow suit.(don't ask me how)
 

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NY and Cali the last super Dem strongholds, but also the 2 most expensive places to live. Also suffering financially off of illegals. Iono...:patrice:

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The IRS, doesn't need a military force to enforce tax compliance. The IRS has extensive legal tools & administrative powers to ensure the payment of taxes.

Again, if CA stopped sending CA citizens/business taxes to the Treasury,

There are about 2,100 armed IRS agents. They're not showing up to the governor's mansion.

The IRS would take it to the Tax Court and win.
But the Tax Court doesn't have an army.

Then the IRS would take the case to and then win at Fed Court.
But the Fed Court doesn't have an Army.

No court does.

The IRS only has the implied power of the Federal Government.

Is Donny T gonna send in troops to collect taxes?

The very norms of governance ARE OUT OF THE WINDOW.

Folks keep thinking that "the rule of law" will prevail - but we've seen since Trump got elected - that this is not the case.

Be it sanctuary cities defying Trump, or Greg Abbott/Ron Desantis pulling whatever bs they've pulled - we're in a new era.
 

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Yeah good luck doing that when he's going to slash their funding. They only have so many lawyers being paid shyt wages compared to if they worked for the private sector.

They may not be stopped, but if you're going up against the 5th largest economy on earth, you'll need a little more funding to keep the fight going.

Especially if other states decide to follow suit.(don't ask me how)

Again, if CA stopped sending CA citizens/business taxes to the Treasury,

There are about 2,100 armed IRS agents. They're not showing up to the governor's mansion.

The IRS would take it to the Tax Court and win.
But the Tax Court doesn't have an army.

Then the IRS would take the case to and then win at Fed Court.
But the Fed Court doesn't have an Army.

No court does.

The IRS only has the implied power of the Federal Government.

Is Donny T gonna send in troops to collect taxes?

The very norms of governance ARE OUT OF THE WINDOW.

Folks keep thinking that "the rule of law" will prevail - but we've seen since Trump got elected - that this is not the case.

Be it sanctuary cities defying Trump, or Greg Abbott/Ron Desantis pulling whatever bs they've pulled - we're in a new era.

Nothing but pie in the sky theories, rooted in fantasy.

  • Automated Tax Collection: The IRS collects federal taxes through an automated system that involves withholding from paychecks, corporate taxes, and other federal filings. This system is largely independent of state control, meaning that even if a state refuses to remit taxes, individuals and businesses within the state will still be responsible for paying federal taxes.

  • Coordination Challenges: Coordinating an effort across multiple states to refuse federal taxes would be logistically difficult. Each state has its own tax collection systems, and individuals and businesses would still be required to report and pay their taxes directly to the IRS. States could not easily block this process, as the IRS has the ability to reach taxpayers directly.

  • Economic Consequences: States that attempted to withhold federal taxes could also face serious economic consequences. Federal funds are used to support state programs, infrastructure, social services, education, and more. Refusing to cooperate with federal tax policies could jeopardize these funds, further weakening the state's finances.
 

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Why are we forcing ourselves to fukk with those clowns? As a country they have lower quality of life educational issues and are STUPID maga fukkS. We can do without them
Blue states should secede from the union:demonic:
 

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Exactly how would the IRS use its enforcement powers on a State?

The IRS doesn't have an Army, Navy, Air Force or Space Force.

It's underfunded as it is.

The idea that a Governor can't do this, in the era of Trump who's broken all types of norms, codes, rules, and laws - is ludicrous.

The better question is how could the State of California actually accomplish this. The logistics would be a nightmare.
IRS got 80 billion from the build back better bill to improve & they haven't done much with the money
 

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This is nothing but a classic pump & fake by Newsome, as he has no legal recourse or authority to withhold California federal taxes from the U.S. government.

"California cannot legally withhold federal taxes as a form of protest, even in opposition to federal immigration policies. While the state can take legal action and pursue other forms of resistance, refusing to pay taxes would be a violation of federal law, and it would face serious consequences from the IRS."

"If California disagrees with federal immigration policies, its most effective recourse would likely be through legal challenges, public policy advocacy, or pushing for legislative change at the federal level."
What makes you think he'd care? If he's breaking national immigration policy ect I'm sure he's not afraid of the IRS.

Im just glad I live in Chicago. JB Pritzker wants all the smoke and has more money than God
 
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