I honestly believe Dubois was acting in what he thought was black people's best interest. He didn't trust Garvey because he was afraid he would set the country back in terms of progress in race relations (in the way he understood it). You have to remember he didn't really start shytting on Garvey until he started publicly meeting with the KKK and the American Nazi party. He was worried that garvey was going to lead black people would go down a fanatical path (and Garvey had an open admiration for fascists and fascism so that thought probably wasn't that far off the mark). In retrospect it's easy to see he went about it all the wrong way but I don't think he was actively working against black progress in favor of furthering white agendas which is what a c00n does, he just had a different perspective on things
Instead of being a limp wristed fagfot tryna be cute, why don't you learn how to read? I gave you a specific example of how she's wrong and untrustworthy. When Frances Cress Welsing died she went to Twitter and retweeted and cosigned a hit piece written by some clean at the root.Instead of emotional ad hominems can you detail how any of her talking points or ideologies are wrong?And she isn't a liberal or a feminist at all. Hearing her speak once and it'll be clear that that just isn't true, she advocates for black people getting their money and black people only. She never has tried to divide the black community through gender or sexual orientation or cast a net open for other groups to take advantage what she believes is the birthright of blacks in this country. Her laser sharp focus should be commended
But how does her personal opinion on one person discredit her philosophy of advocating for funds to be allocated into the hands of the descendants of slaves? Is Francis Cress Welsing your mother? Why get pent up about some isolated incident minor micro aggression on twitter that she didn't even dwell on herself because she didn't think it was that important? At least when Tariq got all defensive about it it made personal sense to him because FCW was someone who took him under her wing , opened his eyes about a lot of things and played a maternal role in his life but you're just dirckriding off of the sentiments of someone else that has nothing to do with you. To think that black people can't have a minute difference of opinion without automatically being agents or c00ns just points to how immature and insecure a lot of you are when it comes to the pedestals you put your heroes on. And I'm a huge fan of FCW so don't even get it twisted
It's kinda obvious the folks calling Yvette & her producer a Liberal don't actually watch or at least skim/browse through her show. Ideology-wise they don't fit AT ALL with your typical Intersectional Black liberal/feminist c00n that you see in the mainstream media or social media. Shea Butter Twitter would label them as Hotep.Instead of emotional ad hominems can you detail how any of her talking points or ideologies are wrong?
Yeah, I was thinking about labeling them as Progressives or being under Center-left on Fiscal/economic issues. They definitely aren't liberals.
It's not about her opinion of Welsing as a person, it's about her ideology being diametrically opposed to Welsing's ideology. Again, you clearly don't read well. The hit piece that she posted written by Stephens called Frances's work "miseducation" and threw her unde the bus in defense/support of homosexuality and homosexuals. How can you agree with someone who cosigns the things that Stephens said in that hit piece while being a fan of Welsing at the same time? That's a blatant contradiction. Did you even take the time to read the Stephens article on Welsing? Obviously not.
No, she's a pragmatist. She's said time and time again that socialist ideas are nice in theory but the real engine that powers the world is capital and black people will not be able to compete in a capitalist society while being deprived of the capital necessary to give them a meaningful voice. Any changes made to a system that revolves around capital will only be done by the people who control a fair portion of said capital, hence why black people should prioritize getting theirs
I read the article and I didn't agree with it. I personally believe FCW theories to be grounded in the truth and very applicable to real life events. If Yvette Carnell doesn't then that's her prerogative. I strongly want and prioritize the advancement and empowerment of black people which is something that Yvette centers her whole life around and something I respect her tremendously for. Seeing black people prosper and succeed is more important to me than making sure my opinions and worldview is in perfect sync with every pundit who has something of value to add to the black community. I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater and play zero sum games when it comes to who I listen to. Being that one track minded is for ants. Fact of the matter is that any step towards the uplifting of the black race is a positive one and accepting that on that road there are going to be people who may differ in opinion on one or two things is just part of being a rational adult
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You're not saying shyt you're just posting words on the screen. You're trying to reconcile supporting two people who fundamentally disagree about race, racism and the best ways that black people should go about overcoming racism. You say that you don't agree with the Stephens article shytting on Welsing that Carnell cosigned but that article breaks down the ideology that she and people like Stephens share which directly opposes Welsing's ideology. That's why they had such a beef with her work. You're contradicting yourself. You can't agree with Welsing while supporting those who fundamentally disagree with her labeling her teachings as "miseducation" without being a hypocrite.
Why is it so hard for you to get it through your head that supporting Yvette's goal of black advancement has nothing to do with her personal opinion on Francis Cress Welsing? FCW's theories are not the be all end all when it comes to tackling the problems facing the black community. All these people, Tariq, Yvette, and Welsing serve the purpose of creating a dialogue for their listeners to use to participate in the discussion, learn more about the issues we are confronted with in the world, and then for them to add to the solutions in turn. If you all you really want is to be a hard-lined zealous follower of someone else's beliefs or approach who only sees the world in black and white then I recommend joining a cult instead of participating in a public forum filled with people of different persuasions and beliefs.
I understand what you're saying. I'm saying that you're wrong. Just saying that your goal is black empowerment isn't good enough. Black feminists claim to be about black female empowerment but when you listen to their talking points you understand that their true agenda isn't really about black female empowerment. It's about black women getting in where they fit in within the system of white supremacy. This is the same feeling that I get from the few times that I've listened to this woman. She seems to just want blacks to get in where we fit in within the system. Just because this Carnell chic claims to be about black empowerment doesn't mean that we should automatically support her. Especially when she has a flawed outlook on race, racism, and the ways that blacks should overcome racism/white supremacy. That's evident by her cosigning that bullshyt article throwing Welsing under the bus. Claiming that white supremacy can be explained by the history of political economy is wrong. Denying that white supremacy is ultimately rooted in the genetic survival of whites is wrong. Defending the liberal pro-gay/tranny agenda(which the article that she cosigned does) is counterproductive to black empowerment.
at this satam or whatever cat talking about her producer........who's married to a white chic.
The most annoying thing about this message board is if I don't 100% agree with what you are saying, something must be wrong with you. I think the world of Yvette and Tariq. Questioning both is okay but being mad that people ask to question or just assuming off of one video you might have watched 6 months ago is silly.
