But none of that has jack shyt to do with what he's talking about.
You're talking about a fukking pickup artist here. He doesn't give a shyt about religion. He doesn't give a shyt about family values. He doesn't give a shyt about drugs. He listed the things he agrees with WHITE CONSERVATIVES on and it wasn't any of that socially conservative shyt, it was just the random dumbass right-wing talking points of the moment.
Y'all are
for him so hard you want to completely reinterpret what he actually said into something more palatable.
I don't even listen to the nikka
I'm just telling you the difference between liberal & conservative.
nikkas always say this stupid shyt but can never point to what they mean by "socially conservative."
Family, education, hard work, and responsibility aren't conservative values - straight shuck and jive talk
They absolutely ARE conservative values, not Republican values, but they are the values associated with religious people, who are across the board in every country considered CONSERVATIVE
Define conservative values in America.
Edit: You do realize social security, welfare assistance, Medicare and Medicaid, minimum wage, federal public school funding, college financial aid are not supported by conservatives right? If they had it their way, those programs would be abolished.
Those are leftist values, not liberal values.
Plenty of super-religious, culturally conservative nations in Latin America, Africa, Asia, and everywhere else offer welfare programs for the poor & working class.
Bullshyt. I'm "conservative" on a lot of topics (religious, sexual morality, abortion, don't trust government, etc.), but that doesn't have jack shyt to do with what Tariq is talking about. The video is a fukking pickup artist who barely even talks about religion gassing up some young white conservative with an American flag as his background. When you are talking about white american conservatives, how can you pretend "most topics" don't mean:
white supremacy
militarism
extremist patriotism
serving the rich
caping for police
destroying education systems
destroying health systems
taking away the social safety net
rugged individualism
corporate capitalism
bosses over workers
landlords over renters
obsession with guns
mass incarceration
anti-environmentalism
anti-voting rights
anti-reparations
anti-housing rights
Again, maybe you listen to this guy more than I do, because I don't listen to him, but Tariq Nasheed doesn't get to define what conservative means in the world.
Most of the stuff that you named are neoliberal values, which is not the same thing as conservative values, even though IN THIS COUNTRY, most conservatives do adopt those stances, leading to the idea that they are one in the same. They are not.
Look at countries around the world, who are culturally conservative about sex, religion, immigration, art, dress, etc. . .
Conservatism is an
aesthetic,
cultural,
social, and
political philosophy, which seeks to promote and to preserve traditional social
institutions.
I.E. Preserve the status quo.
In America that IS racism.
There is no way to separate racism from conservatism in America. They are literally one in the same.
The abortion, Gay shyt, Family values stuff is just red meat republicans throw out for votes.
In reality conservatism is driven by the idea of preserving things they way they used to be.
Only c00ns and cacs say stuff like “I’m socially conservative” Stop it
America does not get to redefine what conservatism means.
Name a "culturally liberal" Black country in the world
Name ONE that's not centered on either Christian or Muslim or some sort of religious values
Even Asian countries like China that have tons of atheists are still CULTURALLY conservative as they encourage traditional nuclear families (man, woman, child), do not encourage drug or alcohol usage, limit the freedom of what can be said or done in art & culture
Your confusing "right wing" with Republican because conservatives are on the right wing of the political spectrum. This isn't debatable.
And to sit there and frame Malcolm as simply conservative because he's pro religion/family is disingenuous. Those values are restricted to any side of the political spectrum. The change he wanted to see in America was a radically, socially progressive one. Every civil rights activist by definition is a progressive. Does than mean he's a liberal? No. You can call form social reforms w/o being a liberal. You cannot be a social conservative while calling for progressive social reforms. The two are opposing views.
That's just not true.
Again, you're conflating right-wing with conservative.
Pro-religion & traditional families are ABSOLUTELY conservative values.
You know what culturally liberal countries are?
Western countries that propagate radical feminist ideas that men & women are the same or diminish the value of males in society
Western countries that don't encourage the traditional family of man, woman, and child, and preach this "all families are equal" crap (tell that to the Chinese)
Western countries that allow for & support the indulgence of drugs & alcohol
Western countries that encourage degenerative behavior in music, culture, sports, etc. . .
Western countries that reject religion & religious values.
Basically, all the CAC countries in Western Europe, Canada, & America.
Now, don't get me wrong, there's a lot of hypocrisy in all of these places, even in Black America.
A lot of us don't actually follow what are textbook "conservative" values, but still hold them as the ideal that we want to live up to.
what do black people actually do socially that’s “conservative”
Our music isn’t conservative. Our language isn’t conservative. Art?…no. Even our form of christianity is anything but traditional/conservative.
What the hell is it that black do that’s actually conservative??
Dude, being a religious Christian, Muslim, Jewish, etc. . . in itself is conservative.
Look at Western Europe, they're all atheists now in Scandanavia, France, Japan, etc. . .
And the artist class that you're referring to is ALWAYS more liberal than the average person in every society.
Just because rappers, comedians, and Hollywood actors are liberals don't mean the people watching them are.
There is no black community of the future. This is the death knell. It’s dunzo. Jump ship.
I’d rather take any resources that I have and throw it at Africa. Throwing money into black America at this point is burning a hole in your pocket.
You think Africans who've been poor for centuries are in a better position than African-Americans, who as a group would be one of the richest countries in the world?
Before colonialism swept through Africa with Christianity their attitudes towards gays was different. They even had third genders.
People say that but African countries are more conservative than EVERY European country and virtually all the conservative countries in the world are people of color, while all the liberal countries are in Western Europe or the Americas.
I was amused when I saw that
Aren’t conservatives the least educated and the most prone to conspiracy theories
Aren’t conservatives more likely to prevent work by trampling on workers’ rights?
Aren’t conservatives more likely to prevent civil rights ?
Arent conservatives more likely to prevent a national health insurance scheme to keep people more sick and prevent work from occurring
aren’t conservatives leaders so far the most likely to be caught as paedophiles?
if you’re a woman aren’t you less likely to get a respectable time off under a conservative?
Again, you're conflating social conservatism with right-wing neoliberal values.
In most of the countries of color in the world, that are overwhelmingly religious countries those things you're talking about don't apply
then idk what to tell you. Republican politics without racism is like Baskin-Robbins without ice cream, it doesn’t exist.
