The State of Black Hollywood: Spike Lee Resorts To Kickstarter To Find Funding For His Movie.

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Don't Spike Lee have a thriller film starring Josh Brolin, Elizabeth Olsen, Sharlto Copley, & Samuel L. Jackson called "Oldboy" coming out later in the year?

Anyways, the reason Spike is having issues securing funding is because he's doing smaller indie-type films that nobody wants to see. If Spike Lee would focus more on Hollywood type movies like "Inside Man" and "Oldboy" folks actually care about his films.

Inside Man was financially successful but still couldn't get funding. shyt George Lucas could barely get funding for Red Tails.

 

[HoLLaBaCK]

Because black people would go out of their way to not support it. Reading through this thread you can easily see the reality of the situation. You have spike lee, someone who's been in the film game for decades and cats are in here saying the money would go to Knicks tickets.

Unfortunately blacks don't economically support other blacks the way we should. ConBsidering how much the dudes on here complain and shyt on Tyler Perry for his fukked up image of black people, how many of them do you think will give a red cent to support another film maker?

shyt nikkas will bootleg the shyt instead of buying it for 19.99.

Which is why I mentioned @ the end of my post we need to go out and support. At the end of the day if you don't go out and support the shyt you want (i.e: music & movies) you cant complain when they don't make the shyt you want.

 

[winb83]

Oh so you the authority on where black people spend there money
Ok, where they spending it?

While you try to figure something to muster up there, black people have spoken, they still speak. Tyler Perry is one shining example and you failed to even touch on what his movies bring to the table. All you mentioned was c00n and "it is what it is" what, you mean White America destroying any black movies that caters to them? Spike isn't the only one struggling for funding. And because of the rise of the internet? Every genre is struggling. We download everything. The major studios are going hard with blockbusters and now thats backfiring. And you think with that going on that Black movies wouldn't of felt that crunch FIRST? Come on man, open your eyes. "THEY" want you to hate TP. He has two new shows now on Oprah's Network, both are the highest rated shows on her stations history
White people fukked with Oprah's show on network TV, but her actual network? You don't hear much about it, you probably never been there. They don't want nikkaz owning there own networks and winning. So they'll get YOU to call it c00ning and spread that good word. But like I said, Madea in particular is no different than the average young black male. Take away the dress, tone down the attitude a lil bit? Her thoughts would mirror that of the young black man, fighting for a better life for his people. MIRRORS IT.
Madea would be to much for America (mainly white america) if there was no dress. Just a grown black man going hard on people. They wouldn't allow TP to be where he is if that were the case. Look past the dress, and analyze the rest

i'm not an authority on anything. how much spending power do you think African Americans have in this country? i've watched 1 Tyler Perry movie in my entire life and it was Diary of a Mad Black Woman i've never cared for it and i've never watched another one. i get mad vibes of pandering to southern church goers and women from what ads i've seen of his work. my perception of most of it is lifetime style women overcomes the odds type hardships with Medea as comic relief.

what i'm saying is this. if blacks did pool their spending power together and support Spike Lee's movies he likely wouldn't be in this predicament. as for Oprah white people fukked with her when she had just a TV show but when she quit that and started a network they didn't follow. it always seemed to me that white women were more into Oprah than black women or black people in general.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Oh so you the authority on where black people spend there money
Ok, where they spending it?

While you try to figure something to muster up there, black people have spoken, they still speak. Tyler Perry is one shining example and you failed to even touch on what his movies bring to the table. All you mentioned was c00n and "it is what it is" what, you mean White America destroying any black movies that caters to them? Spike isn't the only one struggling for funding. And because of the rise of the internet? Every genre is struggling. We download everything. The major studios are going hard with blockbusters and now thats backfiring. And you think with that going on that Black movies wouldn't of felt that crunch FIRST? Come on man, open your eyes. "THEY" want you to hate TP. He has two new shows now on Oprah's Network, both are the highest rated shows on her stations history
White people fukked with Oprah's show on network TV, but her actual network? You don't hear much about it, you probably never been there. They don't want nikkaz owning there own networks and winning. So they'll get YOU to call it c00ning and spread that good word. But like I said, Madea in particular is no different than the average young black male. Take away the dress, tone down the attitude a lil bit? Her thoughts would mirror that of the young black man, fighting for a better life for his people. MIRRORS IT.
Madea would be to much for America (mainly white america) if there was no dress. Just a grown black man going hard on people. They wouldn't allow TP to be where he is if that were the case. Look past the dress, and analyze the rest

This is why I fux with Court...

 

[NZA]

If you calling a white film with black characters a black film then you bumped your head. The Tuskegee Airman has always been a fascinating story. The HBO movie did extremely well. Red Tails was white america trying to capitolize on that piece of history, they wasn't concerned with telling that story if they didn't think it would be a quick cash grab. It made 50mil, they claimed they spent 58mil making it which I feel is hollywoods way of lying so they don't have to pay as much taxes or whatever? There is no reason that much money is needed for any movie. You add up the supposed cost of all movies from 2005 to now and we talking 10 trillion dollars. I'm not buying that But thats off topic...

No its not, because you don't know why that movie didn't do well. You just saying "black ppl can't handle complex" like
That movie wasn't marketed as nothing more than a war movie. The reviews were it was ass. I seen it once it got to video, loved it. Since you can make comments like this, how about you name 3 other "complex" black movies that did or did not do well? I'm doubting you can even name 3 bruh If you can't, then you talking out your ass on this topic right here

Yes, make the world go round. You taking that comment to literal bruh. What I meant is we not new in the game, we don't have to "watch Red Tails or Miracle @ St.Anna" or we "MISSED OUR CHANCE" like if every movie is life or death for black cinema
White focused movies flop left and right on a weekly basis. I've asked you guys to name black movies that have failed over the last 3yrs (lets make it five) and the only movie I heard mentioned was Miracle @ St. Anna. Oh wait, no I didn't. I mentioned that movie. You guys failed to name a single black movie that didn't do well. So your entire commentary so far makes no sense. I'm not emotional, I'm calmly asking to back up HALF of what you been saying.

red tails was written and directed by black people

and LOL at your comments about what budget is needed for any movie. you might not be living in the real world now...

and i didnt say black people couldnt handle black movies. you sadly seem to think that only black people should watch movies made by black people. when i blame the audience, i blame all moviegoers, breh. i forgot how stupid you could be.

i never said anything about us missing our chance either. conditions are fluid, but as long as the moviecoing public thinks like you, the audience for all black movies will be limited just to black people, which means that budgets have to be tight, and the overall number of movies has to be lower, which in turn means fewer kinds of movies and more common denominator type flicks.

 

[valet]

He needs to do Jack Johnson. It would be the most controversial movies in years and get him back in the lime light.

 

[hex]

Now find me a white person who enjoys Living Single, Martin and The Wayans Bros. Likes Steve Harvey and Ced the Entertainer. And listen to the Rickey Smiley or Tom Joyner morning show.

Me, to all of the above. I also watch a lot of foreign movies. Korean, Japan, Spanish. I'm a fan of diversity.

You're right though, I'm probably the exception to the rule.

Fred.

 

[winb83]

red tails was written and directed by black people

and LOL at your comments about what budget is needed for any movie. you might not be living in the real world now...

and i didnt say black people couldnt handle black movies. you sadly seem to think that only black people should watch movies made by black people. when i blame the audience, i blame all moviegoers, breh. i forgot how stupid you could be.

i never said anything about us missing our chance either. conditions are fluid, but as long as the moviecoing public thinks like you, the audience for all black movies will be limited just to black people, which means that budgets have to be tight, and the overall number of movies has to be lower, which in turn means fewer kinds of movies and more common denominator type flicks.

the audience for black movies basically is just black people. that's why its called a "black" movie instead of just a movie. when white people make movies they're considered just movies. when black people make movies they're black movies.

 

[Master Teacher]

The problem is there were no black movie stars anymore
Denzel and Will Smith are old now
Will can' t be Mike Larry playboy fly nikka no more he damn near 50, he gotta be playing fathers and mentors in movies now
he gotta pick better movies and roles, or hire his own writers to make up some shyt that can cater to his strengths

You take a guy like Morgan Freeman, he always been Morgan Freeman, he was never the hero, leading man type of guy
but thats also why he had a long career, he play those roles of an elderman

Spike brought Denzel into the game man, them nikkaz was like the dynamic duo, but who the next one to step up
it's a producer needs a dope artist to shine on their beats in order to blow up. If Jay-Z never rapped on Kanye beats he never would've blew up

This Michael B jordan nikka seems like the only one out there, but he gotta get better roles
to me he aight, he ain't no Will Smith or no Denzel Washington he don't jump off the screen like tha to me
he kind of remind me of a better version of Nick Cannon without the goofiness.

Spike need to try find some new fresh faces like he did with Denzel, and write movies with the lead actor in mind
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[Rekkapryde]

Me, to all of the above. I also watch a lot of foreign movies. Korean, Japan, Spanish. I'm a fan of diversity.

You're right though, I'm probably the exception to the rule.

Fred.

you and @MightyHealthy are black on the inside though....

 

[Rekkapryde]

the audience for black movies basically is just black people. that's why its called a "black" movie instead of just a movie. when white people make movies they're considered just movies. when black people make movies they're black movies.

we are the minority in this country, so it's gonna be that way for any minority.

 

[Rekkapryde]

If Jay-Z never rapped on Kanye beats he never would've blew up

 

[winb83]

we are the minority in this country, so it's gonna be that way for any minority.

we are the minority in this country, so it's gonna be that way for any minority.

If Jay Z or Kanye puts out an album the general public sees it as just music more so than 'black' music.

 

[Bud Bundy]

Yeah but he has only made 2 movies since then so I don't think we can completely write him off at this point. I will admit Red Hook was pretty bad. That was some of the worst acting I have ever seen in modern motion picture history.

I tell people this all the time man. TP movies are not c00nery if you actually get past the Madea character and view the message. The Madea character is constantly shytting on overly religious people and seems to be an atheist. It seems a lot of times black people shyt on black entertainment geared at strictly a black audience which I see a lot on this forum. Urban comedians like Mike Epps and Steve Harvey are hated. BET is hated like a mufukka. Tyler Perry is hated. Al Sharpton's show on MSNBC is hated. I can named 10 comedians that cater to black audiences and the majority of comments will be negative. But if I name 10 comedians who cater to mixed or white audiences then it will be more positive responses. And I know that there are a lot of white posters on here but I will ask them why they don't support entertainment that doesn't cater to them? Black people enjoyed Seinfeld, Desperate Housewives and Frasier. We listen to Bill Burr and Louis CK. We listen to Howard Stern and watch The Tonight Shows. Now find me a white person who enjoys Living Single, Martin and The Wayans Bros. Likes Steve Harvey and Ced the Entertainer. And listen to the Rickey Smiley or Tom Joyner morning show.

you sure those posters are black? I am not

 

[Poppa_Dock]

Spike...It's not even technically an investment it's a donation and if you donate a certain amount you get something in return. That courtside seat at the Knicks game stuff is just for the bidders at the highest level. I haven't checked but others probably get signed posters, DVDs, and some other shyt related to the project.

this is probably why hollywood doesn't care about spike lee. He probably has bonehead stupid silly ideas. It's a pretty scumbag move to accept donation for a fukking movie u will be making money off as well rofl. Dude is living in a fantasy world where he thinks he should be given money to make movies about black people just because. I guarantee execs have literally laughed all in his face.