The Seminole Wars...No the Gullah Wars. A war oblivious to African Americans

[Bawon Samedi]

The South is AA second homeland. It didn't industrialize until well after the North so immigrants/ slaves didn't urbanize and retain a ton of their homelands culture.

This could be also the case.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Gullah Martial Arts style, Kicking and Knocking which is very similar to Afro-Brazilian capoeira.



Both were disguised as dances. Both have central African origins...

Good book to read on subject.

 

[MostReal]

Thanks. But I;m just speculating on how the Gullah retained their African culture. But IMO War/Resistant seems to be more likely.

Another group in South Carolina that retained their African culture.


Yet many people have this idea that AA's are the most Europeanized out of the diaspora.

 

[Blackking]

But I'm not done just yet...Not even close...

I don't think I've ever seen a muthfaker go off like this in a thread before. gottdamn.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I don't think I've ever seen a muthfaker go off like this in a thread before. gottdamn.

Hehehehe...Thanks!

 

[Beegio]

Great thread



I got some reading to do...

On a side note, the first time I was in Charleston I was kicking it to a few females when I was there for Navy training for a couple of weeks. I noticed an island accent in them, different girls at different times. The first time I heard the accent,

Second time I heard the accent from a different female, I'm like

Third time, I just had to ask one..."How many Jamaicans in Charleston?"

That was my first time every even knowing of "Geechi" or "Gullahs"

So much knowledge intentionally left out about black folks in this country

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Great thread



I got some reading to do...

On a side note, the first time I was in Charleston I was kicking it to a few females when I was there for Navy training for a couple of weeks. I noticed an island accent in them, different girls at different times. The first time I heard the accent,

Second time I heard the accent from a different female, I'm like

Third time, I just had to ask one..."How many Jamaicans in Charleston?"

That was my first time every even knowing of "Geechi" or "Gullahs"

So much knowledge intentionally left out about black folks in this country

Did they also look more "African" than other blacks in SC?

 

[Beegio]

Did they also look more "African" than other blacks in SC?

Nah not at all.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Nah not at all.

Oh okay. The Gullah are a very interesting African American subgroup in America.

 

[Dzali OG]

***Slowly raises hand***

So exactly what is being said in this thread?

The picture I get is that America winning the Revolutionary War, while freeing white Americans, insured blacks would remain as slaves?

Do I also sense some double cross? As in slaves fighting for the Patriots were promised freedom, only to be returned to slavery after the war?

Also, so we had blacks fighting against and escaping from slavery since the Revolutionary war?

So the reason those girls I met from Charleston sound Caribbean is because those blacks ate one in the same, at least the Bahamas?

Also makes me think about my theory that a lot of nikkas in Florida are slightly different from other black people. Hard to explain, but when I was in the Army and traveling, I could tell a guy was from Florida by his body type and appearance. Some of us Florida nikkas just have this look. Like Chad Ochocinco, when I first saw him without his helmit, and not knowing anything about him, I thought he looked like a Florida nikka. Compare him to Mad Max who used to play basketball.

Those type nikkas are harder to find now, most are dead or locked up.

 

[SumBlackguyz]

Thread exceeding maximum dopeness levels

 

[Bawon Samedi]

***Slowly raises hand***

So exactly what is being said in this thread?

The picture I get is that America winning the Revolutionary War, while freeing white Americans, insured blacks would remain as slaves?

Do I also sense some double cross? As in slaves fighting for the Patriots were promised freedom, only to be returned to slavery after the war?

Also, so we had blacks fighting against and escaping from slavery since the Revolutionary war?

So the reason those girls I met from Charleston sound Caribbean is because those blacks ate one in the same, at least the Bahamas?

Also makes me think about my theory that a lot of nikkas in Florida are slightly different from other black people. Hard to explain, but when I was in the Army and traveling, I could tell a guy was from Florida by his body type and appearance. Some of us Florida nikkas just have this look. Like Chad Ochocinco, when I first saw him without his helmit, and not knowing anything about him, I thought he looked like a Florida nikka. Compare him to Mad Max who used to play basketball.

Those type nikkas are harder to find now, most are dead or locked up.

Like I said. This thread is about connecting the dots with the Seminole/Gullah war. Like I said it was ONE BIG CONTINUING event from British/Spanish war and Brazilian rebellion against the Dutch all the way to the second "Seminole" War and Mexican revolution. It was one big event that was not just felt in the USA but all across the Americas. Read through the thread source by source and post by post. I'm basically backing up what the Youtube guy is saying. And also what the lady in the vid is saying.

Also I don't see how Florida black people are different from other black people. I posted in this thread that the runaway slaves in Florida came from South Carolina and Georgia.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Thread exceeding maximum dopeness levels

lol Thanks.

 

[bouncy]

This was much larger than the USA, but was felt across the Americas. Ever wonder why the Gullah people have similarities to Maroon/Creole people of the Caribbean?

Today, there are still small Black Seminole communities scattered by war across North America and the West Indies. The "Black Indians" live on Andros Island in the Bahamas where their ancestors escaped from Florida after the First Seminole War. The "Seminole Freedmen," the largest group, live in rural Seminole County, Oklahoma where they are still official members of the Seminole Indian Nation. The "Mascogos" dwell in the dusty desert town of Nacimiento in the State of Coahuila in Northern Mexico. And, finally, the "Scouts" live in Brackettville, Texas outside the walls of the old fort where their grandfathers served in the U.S. Cavalry. These groups have lost almost all contact with one another, but they have all retained the memory of their ancestors' gallant fight for freedom in the Florida wilderness. In 1978, Dr. Ian Hancock discovered that elders among the Texas Scouts still speak a dialect of Gullah—140 years after their ancestors were exiled from Florida and as much as 200 years after their early ancestors escaped from rice plantations in South Carolina and Georgia! In 1980, this writer found that elderly people among the Oklahoma Seminole Freedmen also speak Gullah, while many younger people remember words and phrases once used by their grandparents. Both the Oklahoma and Texas groups, though deeply conscious of their Florida heritage, were unaware of their connection with the Gullah in South Carolina and Georgia. They did not know precisely where their slave ancestors had come from before fleeing into the Florida wilderness. The Oklahoma Seminole Freedmen still possess a rich traditional culture combining both African and American Indian elements. They continue to eat rice as a characteristic part of their diet, sometimes applying a sauce of okra or spinach leaves—like the Gullah, and like their distant relatives in West Africa.
Black Seminoles -- Gullahs Who Escaped From Slavery

Again all this was one complex continuation...

I always used to wonder why some blacks from the oklahoma area looked like some people i seen in north carolina. It may not be because of them all being geechie and native american mixed but i think that area had a lot of n.a. and african mixing going on. They still look black but they have features that look like the pictures of old native americans. They have the look of snoop dogg or a black asian mixed person as far as the eyes, and high cheek bones. They look like south africans such as mandela.

A lot also eat like the geechie but that could be because its coastal land but my mother told me directly her cousins are geechie. She then described how they talked, and said sometimes she didnt know what they were saying when they were younger. Now, that im older i can hear a little of that west indian like accent in the background of a heavy southern accent when they speak. Props on the thread.

 

[bouncy]

@KidStranglehold do you know of any geechies and natives having land in the rural and mountain areas of n.c.?